Holy shit: Iran to enrich highly enriched uranium if talks fail. - Polidicks

Sources: [URL="http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABRE8910VJ20121002"]Reuters[/URL] [URL="http://www.tehrantimes.com/politics/102016-iran-will-produce-highly-enriched-uranium-if-nuclear-talks-fail-mp"]TehranTimes[/URL] [URL="http://rt.com/news/iran-enriched-uranium-talks-534/"]RT[/URL] [QUOTE] [B]Should nuclear talks between Tehran and six world powers fail, Iran will produce highly enriched uranium to fuel its ships, an Iranian MP warned.[/B] The comments by the deputy chairman of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, Mansour Haqiqatpour, come after Israel’s warning last week that by mid-2013 Iran will be on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon. [B]“If the talks between Iran and the 5+1 group (the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and Germany) do not yield results, the Iranian youth will (produce) up to 60 percent enriched uranium to fuel submarines and oceangoing ships,” MP Mansour Haqiqatpour told ISNA news agency.[/B] [B]Iran denies allegations that it is seeking to develop a nuclear weapon, insisting that it nuclear program is for peaceful means.[/B] In order to fuel ships with nuclear energy, Iran needs to produce uranium enriched to a purity level of higher than 20 percent, Tehran Times reports. Experts warn that if Iran produces enough uranium, purified to such a level, that it could quickly be enriched further and be used to produce a bomb. Iran has already produced more than 6.8 tonnes of uranium refined up to 5 per cent since 2007. According to the latest IAEA report, 190 kg of uranium has been refined to 20 per cent. Despite the war of words between Iran and Israel, many analysts believe that it will take several years for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon should it decide to do so. "I still think that we are talking about several years … before Iran could develop a nuclear weapon and certainly before they could have a deliverable nuclear weapon," said Shannon Kile, head of the Nuclear Weapons Project of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, as cited by Reuters. Speaking to the UN General Assembly last week Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu drew a ‘red line’ on a cartoon bomb representing Tehran’s alleged ambition to create a nuclear weapon. The drawing was divided into three sections, with marks indicating 70 percent and 90 percent of the uranium enrichment required to build an atomic bomb. “Iran is 70 percent of the way there, and are well into the second stage. By next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage. From there it is only a few more weeks before they have enriched enough for a bomb,” he said. In response to Netanyahu’s statement, Iran's Defense Minister urged the international community to put pressure on Israel for crossing the "red line" by stockpiling nuclear warheads and mass destruction weapons. [B]"If possessing a nuclear bomb is crossing the redline, the Zionist regime with tens of nuclear warheads and a variety of mass destruction weapons has crossed the red line for many years and it should be confronted," Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said on Saturday, ISNA reported.[/B] [/QUOTE]

That's pretty scary to think about, with stuxnet and the likes going around. Edit: never mind, forgot stuxnet hit its death date. But it is open source, so there's probably other variations infecting computers now anyway.

Is it extremely enriched if you enrich highly enriched uranium?

RIP Iran if this actually does happen, Israel has vowed to rain fire across their plants if they continue enrichment.

[QUOTE=Pig;37890179]RIP Iran if this actually does happen, Israel has vowed to rain fire across their plants if they continue enrichment.[/QUOTE] Israel isn't going to do shit if the USA doesn't get involved

[QUOTE=nikomo;37890172]Is it extremely enriched if you enrich highly enriched uranium?[/QUOTE] Enriched enriched uranium is so enriched that if it were any more enriched it would be considered as siding for Mitt Romney's yacht

[QUOTE=Pig;37890179]RIP Iran if this actually does happen, Israel has vowed to rain fire across their plants if they continue enrichment.[/QUOTE] Most of their stuff is heavily fortified by now, it would be hard if not ineffective for Israel to strike alone without being severely outnumbered. Then Iran and its proxies would rain down missiles on US and Israeli interests in the middle east and shit would be fucked.

[QUOTE=Lazor;37890193]Israel isn't going to do shit if the USA doesn't get involved[/QUOTE] They didn't need US involvement in 1981.

If I remember right, Iran's underground facilities are too deep for any bunker busters to be effective. A military strike against Iran is doing nothing but throwing rocks at a bee-hive.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37890244]They didn't need US involvement in 1981.[/QUOTE] That was 1981. Saddam also didnt have F-14's or modern SAM's.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37890208]Most of their stuff is heavily fortified by now, it would be hard if not ineffective for Israel to strike alone without being severely outnumbered. Then Iran and its proxies would rain down missiles on US and Israeli interests in the middle east and shit would be fucked.[/QUOTE] Israel would attack either way. Their entire foreign policy is essentially: If Iran is developing nukes we will attack them. The most likely scenario would be that Israel attacks without US support, gets attacked back by Iran and possibly by some of the Arab nations surrounding it, definitely by any groups that don't like Israel. US destroys Iran.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37890262]That was 1981. Saddam also didnt have F-14's or modern SAM's.[/QUOTE] Iran is still fairly outgunned as far as air power goes. [QUOTE=OvB;37890250]If I remember right, Iran's underground facilities are too deep for any bunker busters to be effective. A military strike against Iran is doing nothing but throwing rocks at a bee-hive.[/QUOTE] Bomb military and/or civilian targets until the government submits to Israeli will.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37890244]They didn't need US involvement in 1981.[/QUOTE] it's been 31 years since then, and Israel has been doing everything it can to pressure the USA into getting involved.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37890262]That was 1981. Saddam also didnt have F-14's or modern SAM's.[/QUOTE] You mean the same F-14s that're mostly hangar queens due to lack of spare parts?

[QUOTE=Lazor;37890313]it's been 31 years since then, and Israel has been doing everything it can to pressure the USA into getting involved.[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean they won't act without US support if they deem it necessary.

Engagement in Iran is a matter of when, not if. Every child knows that you don't go throwing rocks at a bees nest... Unfortunately it would seem Ahmadinejad did not have a good childhood. :v:

[QUOTE=nikomo;37890172]Is it extremely enriched if you enrich highly enriched uranium?[/QUOTE]I feel like making a super saiyan joke or something along those lines right now.

The stupidest part of this is that other countries, namely Brazil have no issues with anyone and don't get shit over this. But oh no, they couldn't possibly take the nice route, they've gotta be the big hero fighting against the world and ruining everything. How hard is it to understand unwriten rules of geopolitics rather than being an edgy rage against the machine faggot and make an ass of yourself?

[QUOTE=Devodiere;37890437]The stupidest part of this is that other countries, namely Brazil have no issues with anyone and don't get shit over this. But oh no, they couldn't possibly take the nice route, they've gotta be the big hero fighting against the world and ruining everything. How hard is it to understand unwriten rules of geopolitics rather than being an edgy rage against the machine faggot and make an ass of yourself?[/QUOTE] Unwritten rules of geopolitics101: Submit to American/Western European will or you will be bombed, sanctioned, or ousted.

I mean it isn't like the reason Iran is a hostile theocracy is because the Iranians tried to elect a political leader the US didn't like.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37890463]Unwritten rules of geopolitics101: Submit to American/Western European will or you will be bombed, sanctioned, or ousted. I mean it isn't like the reason Iran is a hostile theocracy is because the Iranians tried to elect a political leader the US didn't like.[/QUOTE] Yeah man, fuck the west, I can do whatever I want and not expect any ramifications. Not like they have an interest in anything like security or whatever, if I want nukes I get nukes. This is not an idealistic kiddy matter, they are the big players in the world and you don't piss them off just because you can. You get a lot further with honey than vinegar and edgyness isn't going to prevent them from keeping out anyone who is a threat.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;37890527]Yeah man, fuck the west, I can do whatever I want and not expect any ramifications. Not like they have an interest in anything like security or whatever, if I want nukes I get nukes. This is not an idealistic kiddy matter, they are the big players in the world and you don't piss them off just because you can. You get a lot further with honey than vinegar and edgyness isn't going to prevent them from keeping out anyone who is a threat.[/QUOTE] The USA and Israel, Iran's biggest threats, both have nuclear weapons. Then you say Iran wanting them is some idealistic kiddy matter?

Nothing is going to happen. [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/iran-nuclear-weapons-development_n_1932682.html]Speculation says Iran isn't armed with nuclear warhead capable missiles[/url], but because there's still a chance, nobody's going to take that risk. I mean Iran had to steal a US recon drone JUST so they could learn how to make their own (and poorly, at that). Nuclear weapons are not only a powerful weapon but a powerful deterrent aswell. Take North Korea, for example. One nuke goes off, the rest will.

iranian youth making enriched uranium since 2012 wait a minute someone i know is iranian, and a youth

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37890470]I mean it isn't like the reason Iran is a hostile theocracy is because the Iranians tried to elect a political leader the US didn't like.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The 1953 Iranian coup d'état (known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup) was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom (under the name 'Operation Boot') and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project). The coup saw the transition of Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat[/url] Yup it does seem UK and US did overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran 1953. Had no idea about it.

I have just been sitting and waiting for them to try something stupid

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37890208]Most of their stuff is heavily fortified by now, it would be hard if not ineffective for Israel to strike alone without being severely outnumbered. Then Iran and its proxies would rain down missiles on US and Israeli interests in the middle east and shit would be fucked.[/QUOTE] Israel is motherfuckin' pros at fighting wars at ridiculous odds and winning. Not saying it wouldn't be costly, or that they'd do it, or that if they did it, they'd win. Just saying they're... Pretty fucking good at it. If they time it right, they might even be home by the Sabbath.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37890568]The USA and Israel, Iran's biggest threats, both have nuclear weapons. Then you say Iran wanting them is some idealistic kiddy matter?[/QUOTE] Think about this pragmatically, what would nuclear weapons prevent? Israel doesn't have the force projection to do shit and the US couldn't handle the occupation of Iraq when they were a tenth the power of Iran. A full military engagement is a terrible decision for everyone and having nukes doesn't help that. Then consider how much the antagonistic pursuit of nuclear weapons makes you a target, how much would anyone be interested in invading if they didn't have the slightest interest in nukes? Even if they did, them being a Theocratic shithole and idealistically opposed hasn't hurt the Saudis, Egypt, PRC, fucking Pakistan, because they can all get on the good side of the US. Brazil even had the US take them on their word that they were using enriched uranium for subs and reactors, that's what good relations do. These are the circumstances in which they have to work and the repercussions if they decide to fuck everything. It's not a complex system, they even have plenty of oil to bribe the west with if they really wanted to.

[QUOTE=Lazor;37890193]Israel isn't going to do shit if the USA doesn't get involved[/QUOTE] Of course, if Israel does shit the US will get involved and they know this

The thing about Israel is that theyre good at fighting dirty. Like , for example. The six day war only happened because Israel started to bomb the shit out of everyone and all the countries started to fortify their borders because they recieved news that Israel was going to bomb the shit out of them. Israel won through essentially leading egypt into a trap and holding their entire army hostage through denying them water by any means.