Israeli policeman harasses 8-year-old Palestinian girl, throws bike into bushes - Polidicks

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWiPhRylGg[/media] [quote]Israeli police officers have been filmed shouting at an eight-year-old Palestinian girl, before taking her bicycle and throwing it into the bushes in the West Bank. The footage, released by Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, shows an officer running over to the girl as she plays in the street with her siblings in Hebron. She is seen screaming and dropping her bicycle, which the armed officer then proceeds to step on as she starts to cry. The girl then runs away as the police officer shouts at her, while holding his gun. His colleague proceeds to pick up the bicycle and throw it in nearby bushes. B’Tselem identified the child as Anwar Burqan and said she had been playing with her 11-year-old sister and brothers aged seven and four when the incident happened on 25 July. She had been riding her bicycle on the paved part of a road leading up to the Tomb of the Patriarchs/ Ibrahimi Mosque holy site, which is restricted for use by Jewish settlers and Israelis while Palestinians are ordered to use an unsurfaced pathway on the other side of a fence. [img]http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2015/03/28/12/Hebron-1.jpg[/img] [i]Palestinians are ordered to walk down a path strewn with rubble, while Israelis are allowed to pass down the paved road[/i] [/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/video-israeli-police-officer-crying-eight-year-old-palestinian-girls-bicycle-bushes-hebron-west-bank-a7169451.html[/url]

Fucking appalling behaviour, I hope those cops get their shit kicked in by their superiors for that.

[quote]She had been riding her bicycle on the paved part of a road leading up to the Tomb of the Patriarchs/ Ibrahimi Mosque holy site, which is restricted for use by Jewish settlers and Israelis while Palestinians are ordered to use an unsurfaced pathway on the other side of a fence.[/quote] While I agree Hamas is bad and awful, when there's apartheid shit like this going on, it's really, really hard to absolutely condemn a group that's fighting back against the oppressive regime, even if they're going about it exactly the wrong way.

The police officer has been suspended and is under investigation. [URL]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4836770,00.html[/URL] [QUOTE]The Border Police said in response that it "views the incident gravely and regrets it. At the end of an initial investigation, the Border Police commander instructed to immediately suspend the soldier from operational duty," adding that the Police Investigation Unit that will take over the investigation of the incident.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;50822791]The police officer has been suspended and is under investigation. [URL]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4836770,00.html[/URL][/QUOTE] Good. I hope he's reprimanded fairly for his actions. But when I read this: [QUOTE]On Monday of last week, she was playing with her siblings on a road not far from her home that is meant for the exclusive use of Jews and that Palestinians are barred from entering. [/QUOTE] I felt like I time traveled to the 1950's.

[quote]on the paved part of a road leading up to the Tomb of the Patriarchs/ Ibrahimi Mosque holy site, which is restricted for use by Jewish settlers and Israelis while Palestinians are ordered to use an unsurfaced pathway on the other side of a fence.[/quote] This is some A-Grade Apartheid bullshit and is absolutely indefensible.

[QUOTE=Omilinon;50822808]Good. I hope he's reprimanded fairly for his actions. But when I read this: I felt like I time traveled to the 1950's.[/QUOTE] It's a security measure. Hebron used to be one of the few cities in Israel that had a significant Jewish communityfor centuries, but most were killed or fled the city in the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre"]1929 Hebron massacre[/URL]. Right now there's a very small number of hardcore, belligerent Jewish settlers who insist on living inside Hebron. It's legal since they bought the houses they live in, so Israel has to spend A LOT of resources keeping the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in Hebron from murdering the shit out of them, despite the settlers' best efforts to antagonize the locals by every means possible. Besides having lots and lots of Israeli soldiers risk their lives securing these assholes security forces also keep the little Jewish enclave completely separate from the rest of the city with fences and police officers doing their best to keep both sides from interacting with each other. Edit: The Tomb of the Patriarchs is another fucked up issue in the same neighborhood. Its a holy site to both Jews and Muslims, and since there are a lot of Jews arriving there to pray the site is often targeted by Palestinian terrorists: [URL]http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Breaking-News-Two-Israelis-wounded-in-Hebron-shooting-attack-432266[/URL] [URL]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.695173[/URL] [URL]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4772387,00.html[/URL] So again there are separate roads leading to the site for Jews and Palestinians, with the main road closed to Palestinians to prevent cars and car bombs from driving into the Jewish visitors to the site.

You have got to possess some deep seated hatred to behave that way towards a little kid. That guy is fucked in the head.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;50822680]Fucking appalling behaviour, I hope those cops get their shit kicked in by their superiors for that.[/QUOTE] Its Palestine/Israel. It wont happen.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50822780]While I agree Hamas is bad and awful, when there's apartheid shit like this going on, it's really, really hard to absolutely condemn a group that's fighting back against the oppressive regime, even if they're going about it exactly the wrong way.[/QUOTE] Well it's not exactly as if Palestine didn't try to do the exact same to the Israeli's throughout the last century. It's only now that they've been pretty much been beaten to a pulp that they're considered the oppressed after constantly attacking Israel repeatedly with their allies.

And then they wonder why people are stabbing them

Good job officer, a grown ass man bullying a small child. Glad they have responsible adults upholding the law over there.

He was put aside and on trial. But judging from past results from the Israel state, this won't end in a proper punishment. Come on, soldiers making children search for bombs in bags get away with a slap on their wrists and officers tying children to jeeps from 2005 to 2011-2012 without proper punishment....you tell me THIS is going to get him some punishment? The problem is not the guy. The problem is how the Israel state perpetuates this way of behavior.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;50822845]It's a security measure. Hebron used to be one of the few cities in Israel that had a significant Jewish communityfor centuries, but most were killed or fled the city in the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre"]1929 Hebron massacre[/URL]. Right now there's a very small number of hardcore, belligerent Jewish settlers who insist on living inside Hebron. It's legal since they bought the houses they live in, so Israel has to spend A LOT of resources keeping the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in Hebron from murdering the shit out of them, despite the settlers' best efforts to antagonize the locals by every means possible. Besides having lots and lots of Israeli soldiers risk their lives securing these assholes security forces also keep the little Jewish enclave completely separate from the rest of the city with fences and police officers doing their best to keep both sides from interacting with each other. Edit: The Tomb of the Patriarchs is another fucked up issue in the same neighborhood. Its a holy site to both Jews and Muslims, and since there are a lot of Jews arriving there to pray the site is often targeted by Palestinian terrorists: [URL]http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Breaking-News-Two-Israelis-wounded-in-Hebron-shooting-attack-432266[/URL] [URL]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.695173[/URL] [URL]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4772387,00.html[/URL] So again there are separate roads leading to the site for Jews and Palestinians, with the main road closed to Palestinians to prevent cars and car bombs from driving into the Jewish visitors to the site.[/QUOTE] Yeah the settlers have almost always been a headache regardless of who's been in power in the government. In 1994 a settler waltzed into the Cave of The Patriarchs wearing an army uniform and gunned down 29 Palestinians. The right wing extremists aren't content with just having a Jewish state and use religious law to label any ceding of territory as treason. It's important to point out in defense of ordinary Israelis that around 94/95 the pro-peace Labor party had popular support, except the prime minister was killed by a right-wing extremist and the guy who took over totally blew his reelection chances and let Netanyahu win.

[QUOTE=Splarg!;50823471]Yeah the settlers have almost always been a headache regardless of who's been in power in the government. In 1994 a settler waltzed into the Cave of The Patriarchs wearing an army uniform and gunned down 29 Palestinians. The right wing extremists aren't content with just having a Jewish state and use religious law to label any ceding of territory as treason. It's important to point out in defense of ordinary Israelis that around 94/95 the pro-peace Labor party had popular support, except the prime minister was killed by a right-wing extremist and the guy who took over totally blew his reelection chances and let Netanyahu win.[/QUOTE] Shimon Peres, who replaced the late Rabin as head of the Labor party, actually lost the elections due to a wave of brutal Palestinian terror attacks during his short time in office. He did go on to become one of Israel's best loved presidents. Netanyahu did have a short stint as prime minister after him, but then Israelis elected Barak, another Labor leader who went even further than Rabin in his attempts to reach a peace treaty with the Palestinians and end the occupation of southern Lebanon. Which blew up in his face when the Palestinians dropped out of the negotiations and started the second Intifada, and Hezbollah moved down to Israel's border and started attacking it from there. Some time later Israelis also elected Sharon, who promised to unilaterally pull out of Gaza and then the West Bank, in yet another attempt to end the conflict. That of course ended with Hamas taking over Gaza and firing thousand of rockets into Israel. Surveys showed that most Israelis were in favor of a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians even at the cost of painful concessions for decades after Rabin's death. But over three decades of ongoing failure in every single attempt to negotiate anything with the Palestinians combined with a constantly escalating campaign of terror against Israelis (to the point of hundreds of missiles being fired into Israeli cities every day) ground away most Israelis' (and Palestinians) hope there would ever be peace. Which is why most Palestinians support Hamas, and most Israelis keep voting in Netanyahu who promises to be hard on terrorism.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50822780]While I agree Hamas is bad and awful, when there's apartheid shit like this going on, it's really, really hard to absolutely condemn a group that's fighting back against the oppressive regime, even if they're going about it exactly the wrong way.[/QUOTE] The blame always lies with the side who has more power to end the bad situation. In this case, Israel is clearly leagues more powerful than Hamas and yet they continue to take actions which perpetuate the situation, prop up the Hamas base, and make a fool of themselves by whining on the international stage about excuses like the Hamas "manifesto" written by some guy who was too busy dodging bombs to form an intelligent or coherent thought.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;50823720]The blame always lies with the side who has more power to end the bad situation. In this case, Israel is clearly leagues more powerful than Hamas and yet they continue to take actions which perpetuate the situation, prop up the Hamas base, and make a fool of themselves by whining on the international stage about excuses like the Hamas "manifesto" written by some guy who was too busy dodging bombs to form an intelligent or coherent thought.[/QUOTE] Israel plays a big part in continuing the cycle but morons like Hamas are equally guilty. Both sides have contributed to the conflict and both are deserving of the blame. Palestinian terrorists targeting random Jewish/Israelis and other extremists doing stuff like [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/13-year-old-israeli-girl-stabbed-to-death-in-her-bedroom/"]stabbing a 13 year old girl to death in her sleep[/URL] and Hamas using people as human shields whilst they fired missiles at Israel. Then there's Jewish settlers who are just awful, from how I've heard it and the heavy-handed response from the government which doesn't help. Not to mention right-wing extremists who keep shitting all over any attempts to compromise and make peace, who actually deserve to be targeted. I truly wish there was a way that we could force both of them to sit down together and tell them to make their peace before it was imposed upon them.

Dunno how you can, without any regret on your conscious, act like that towards a little kid. When my niece gets into one of her moods where she cries because I did something she thought wronged her I end up feeling pretty bad and I got the same reaction when I saw that girl in the video.

[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;50826564]Dunno how you can, without any regret on your conscious, act like that towards a little kid. When my niece gets into one of her moods where she cries because I did something she thought wronged her I end up feeling pretty bad and I got the same reaction when I saw that girl in the video.[/QUOTE] The (suspended) police officers are now claiming they were actually trying to protect that girl, taking away her bike to physically stop her from walking into the Jewish enclave because they were unable to explain to her she can't go there (due to the language barrier and her panic I guess). Even if they are telling the truth this would imply even Israeli police officers consider the Jewish settlers dangerous to little girls.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;50826584]The (suspended) police officers are now claiming they were actually trying to protect that girl, taking away her bike to physically stop her from walking into the Jewish enclave because they were unable to explain to her she can't go there (due to the language barrier and her panic I guess). Even if they are telling the truth this would imply even Israeli police officers consider the Jewish settlers dangerous to little girls.[/QUOTE] I take it a lot of Jewish settlers have a blatant disregard for other people, even children? The officer might have been thinking that but jesus christ that's a heavy handed way to deal with it, it warrants a reprimand. Shit like this is what's causing tensions to hold.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;50826639]I take it a lot of Jewish settlers have a blatant disregard for other people, even children? The officer might have been thinking that but jesus christ that's a heavy handed way to deal with it, it warrants a reprimand. Shit like this is what's causing tensions to hold.[/QUOTE] The Hebron settlers are a very small group of some of the most hardcore psychos there are. They're mere presence there is a huge fuck you to the Palestinian population of the city, but before the IDF and police physically prevented them from coming into contact with the Palestinians by fencing them off they would often march into the Palestinian city to start shit like turn over market stalls and attack passers by. Literally pogroms. They still do shit like cuss out and throw stuff through the fences at Palestinian schoolchildren as they walk by.

Sounds like the situation in Northern Ireland, only a lot more volatile. [editline].[/editline] Jesus, this is appalling. [video=youtube;T8RQK4xYdLU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8RQK4xYdLU[/video]

Not exactly a prime moment of the Israelis, but I rather have this than women getting attacked for not wearing hijabs. No matter what you think about how Israel is handling everything, compared to Hamas they're doing a great job.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50827188]Terrible comparison. Why is that have to be either/or? This isnt American elections, why are we comparing two unrelated evils? How is Hamas Israel's peer anyway?[/QUOTE] Because it'd be a delusional thought to think in the middle east's present climate that if Palestine were to go fully independent there wouldn't be Islamic extremism within the government. And yes, you're correct, Hamas aren't a peer because they are actually a terrorist organization.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50832929]I dont think there is anyone here who supports a fully independent Palestine, or anyone who would deny Hamas wouldnt be influential in an independent Palestine. Such a redundant point to make. Hamas isnt a peer because they are weak, there is a colossal difference of power between the government of a recognized established state and a ragtag group in a blockaded piece of land. You just dont compare the two based on hypotethical scenarios.[/QUOTE] Isn't the state of Palestine recognised?

What a time to live in People equating clandestine organization power to state power Really? "Fully independent". B'tselem says completely otherwise.