My brother is one of the smartest people I know. He's read through all of his textbooks out of boredom, knows more than most of the teachers I've met at the school, and yet he's required by law to attend. He's already been on probation for missing so many days. I know, just tell him to grow a pair and just do what he has to, but that still leaves the question: Why does he have to? Why can't he move on in the next step of life? Why do you have to wait until your 18 to consider leaving school? Tons of the big names in history left school at an early age, so from my viewpoint it looks like school may hold back some people.
Because school is obligatory? What is the problem with it? Most people have a great time at school, including me.
[QUOTE=ashton93;32390558]Because school is obligatory? What is the problem with it? Most people have a great time at school, including me.[/QUOTE]
Most. Some, my brother included, have a horrible time. He can't stand it.
Because school is required for you to go to college and get a job.
How old is your brother exactly ?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32390589]Because school is required for you to go to college and get a job.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not. i have been un-schooling since i was about four, don't be so closed minded.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32390594]How old is your brother exactly ?[/QUOTE]
He's 16.
he still needs to go, because school helps aid social and other developmental aspects (organizational skills and whatnot)
He may read through his textbooks, but does he really understand them?
Probably not all of it.
School is more than burying your head in books all day long
Your in Texas right? Your parents commit an offense if they don't make him go to school
I get the same feeling from pre-calc, I literaly sit there bored all class and do NOTHING, I don't do homework yet guess who's the kid in the class to get 100's on all our tests? ME. I wish I could test out of highschool classes, I don't want to take another year of math.
If he's under 18 chances are he thinks his smartness will never change and will get him all jobs and will make his life perfect. If he doesn't go to school, not only his supposed potential will be utterly wasted, but he will also lack a lot of general knowledge should he want to take advanced studies in a college of some sort.
When I was a kid everyone told me I was super-intelligent and shit, and I thought I'd never have to really work on what I learned. The fact is, even if I still have a good memory that doesn't require tons of reading of the same lesson to get it working, I still had to start working for good when the bases my "super-intelligence" offered weren't enough anymore.
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I mean seriously it might be boring but he has to through it or else he'll be in really deep shit.
[QUOTE=Owen Bicker;32390536]My brother is one of the smartest people I know. He's read through all of his textbooks out of boredom, knows more than most of the teachers I've met at the school, and yet he's required by law to attend. He's already been on probation for missing so many days. I know, just tell him to grow a pair and just do what he has to, but that still leaves the question: Why does he have to? Why can't he move on in the next step of life? Why do you have to wait until your 18 to consider leaving school? Tons of the big names in history left school at an early age, so from my viewpoint it looks like school may hold back some people.[/QUOTE]
Because there's a lot of people in this life who claim to know what's better for you than you, yourself, do. They also believe some degree of standardization and accreditation ensures that you don't accidentally let stupid people get a good job or go to college, which can be a good or bad thing depending on your world view.
[QUOTE=The one that is;32390694]I get the same feeling from pre-calc, I literaly sit there bored all class and do NOTHING, I don't do homework yet guess who's the kid in the class to get 100's on all our tests? ME. I wish I could test out of highschool classes, I don't want to take another year of math.[/QUOTE]
Does your school offer AP or IB classes?
Also, look for teachers who love doing what they do. It's simple, but often overlooked. My AP European History teacher loves what he teaches and often gets everyone involved in class.
If you're brother was really that smart, he would find a way to make some cash at school to make it worthwhile. I guess he isn't that smart, huh?
[QUOTE=Craptasket;32390690]Your in Texas right? Your parents commit an offense if they don't make him go to school[/QUOTE]
It's the same in Britain, it's not uncommon for parents to be jailed because of their children truanting
Oh good, so school is teaching your brother the valuable lesson in life of DOING SHIT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.
Does that explain anything?
I completed 100% of my high school education (even the optional, stay til you're 18 stuff) at age 16.
I'm not even smart, New Zealand just has a wierd system
Biggest regret of my life.
Moral of the story? Maybe he likes it.
School is more than just taking in knowledge from textbooks. You know these "über-smart" kids you hear of that aces all tests and works with way more advanced stuff than their peers in elementary school? Well the thing is, this that their awesomeness is usually a temporary state of affairs. A lot of them might reach high-school levels at young age because they have certain abilities like photographic memory or are great at improvising, but once they're there they cease developing because they don't have to put up any effort. By the time these kids reach college they're generally behind everyone else because they missed the chance of developing proper studying habits and taking in important life experience from skipping school.
Stay in school even if it's boring. Tons of big names also stayed in school without skipping.
[QUOTE=rainbowhyperion;32390621]No, it's not. i have been [b]un-schooling[/b] since i was about four, don't be so closed minded.[/QUOTE]
It shows.
Because school is not about raw knowledge, even though our testing system implies that it is.
School is about learning knowledge, wisdom, and personal growth (social, dicipline, goals in life, etc)
Your brother can be as book-smart as wikipedia but it doesn't mean shit if he isn't wise, it doesn't mean shit if he doesn't prove to others he has dicipline, etc.
Many employers these days don't care what you learned at a college for example - they care that you are able to completely long term goals (get a degree and get it well). If you can't do that, you wont get anywhere in life. Very few professions actually require one to have substantual knowledge on topics like math or science, unless you are going into those fields. But it makes you well rounded to know such things, it makes you a more educated mature person.
So what good is raw knowledge? Raw knowledge is nothing. It takes wisdom to apply that knowledge, and it takes the ability to succesfully pass school to develop yourself into someone who can accomplish long-term goals, or who knows what they want to do in life. Obviously if you are already dead set in what you want to do, and it is a tradeskill that you are good at, you could start on it right away. But I'm guessing your brother isn't in that category.
Can't you drop out when your 16? Legally that is.
OP, how old are you?
Yeah I wish now that I did in better in high school. Because right now i know I am not going have the same ability to hear the material and just remember it. There is something more than knowledge to be learned in school, it it something that is elusive if you try to get at it just being at home. What it is I really can not tell my self, that is the reason that I ma going to go back to school to learn more about computers for a career. I think that the elusive thing to learn is to be ready for the life ahead, and I have to say that I think that I am still not ready enough.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;32390690]Your in Texas right? Your parents commit an offense if they don't make him go to school[/QUOTE]
Yep, I've seen a lot of kids come to jail for missing school. A lot of them don't care, I tried explaining to them spending 6-8 hours at school and getting to go home at the end of the day beats being in jail 24/7. It is funny when they got all their text books out in the general area and they're studying to past a state exam that he has to take in jail.
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