[B][quote]British computer hacker Gary McKinnon will not be extradited to the US, Home Secretary Theresa May has announced.[/quote][/B][quote]
Mr McKinnon, 46, who admits accessing US government computers but claims he was looking for evidence of UFOs, has been fighting extradition since 2002.
The home secretary told MPs there was no doubt Mr McKinnon was "seriously ill" and the extradition warrant against him should be withdrawn.
Mrs May said the sole issue she had to consider was his human rights.
She said it was now for the Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer QC, to decide whether he should face trial in the UK.
Mrs May also said measures would be taken to enable a UK court to decide whether a person should stand trial in the UK or abroad - a so-called forum bar.
It would be designed to ensure extradition cases did not fall foul of "delays and satellite litigation", she said.
Mr McKinnon, who has been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, faced 60 years in jail if convicted in the US.
His MP, David Burrowes, who had threatened to resign as a parliamentary aide if Mr McKinnon was extradited, welcomed the decision.
Mr Burrowes tweeted: "Compassion and pre-election promises delivered today."
BBC legal correspondent Clive Coleman said it was a dramatic decision - the first time a home secretary had stepped in to block an extradition under the current treaty with the US.[/quote]
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138[/URL]
Well fucking finally the UK has the balls to say no to the US for once.
It shouldn't have taken 10 years to get to this conclusion
I saw this guy have an interview on This Morning once, I remember it. Isn't he dyslexic? He was really good with computers and wanted to know more about UFO's so he hacked into US government computers. It's their fault for having shit security if a dyslexic brit managed to get into their computers.
Well that took fucking long enough.
As someone diagnosed with Aspergers myself I can't begin to imagine what the last 10 years has been like for this guy.
I and many others with Aspergers that I know experience a lot of anxiety on a day to day basis without anything out of the ordinary occurring let alone something like this.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;38058249]I saw this guy have an interview on This Morning once, I remember it. Isn't he dyslexic? He was really good with computers and wanted to know more about UFO's so he hacked into US government computers. It's their fault for having shit security if a dyslexic brit managed to get into their computers.[/QUOTE]
Dunno about dyslexic but he does have Aspergers.
What a fucking weirdo. Hacking government computers to look for proof of UFOs.
Glad sense prevailed in this, disappointed it took 10 years for it happen however.
Man, the past few years must have been really horrible for this guy. Having aspergers sucks, having aspergers and being wanted by the US government must be unimaginably bad.
Rather than being charged, why dont they reward them for pointing out security loopholes in their system?
[QUOTE=critein_protein;38058249]I saw this guy have an interview on This Morning once, I remember it. Isn't he dyslexic? He was really good with computers and wanted to know more about UFO's so he hacked into US government computers. It's their fault for having shit security if a dyslexic brit managed to get into their computers.[/QUOTE]
Dyslexia =/= stupidity.
My younger brother is pretty dyslexic, struggles with reading and writing but Christ does he have a brilliant mind, iq of 135, he can do anything he turns his hand to and understands mechanics and maths brilliantly.
Glad they aren't extraditing their own citizens unless there is a serious and valid claim behind the request; At least in this case. Hopefully it'll set a precedent.
I suffer from dyslexia. It has nothing to do with IQ, we just have problems with literacy. Asperger's syndrome is on the autism spectrum and isn't the same as dyslexia.
US sure got TOLD! Looks like we Brits still have some pride :)
[QUOTE=critein_protein;38058249]I saw this guy have an interview on This Morning once, I remember it. Isn't he dyslexic? He was really good with computers and wanted to know more about UFO's so he hacked into US government computers. It's their fault for having shit security if a dyslexic brit managed to get into their computers.[/QUOTE]
Yup. Up next in UK criminal justice: Burglar not charged because homeowner left door open!
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38058497]Yup. Up next in UK criminal justice: Burglar not charged because homeowner left door open![/QUOTE]
Well, he won't be charged for breaking and entering, only for entering :v:
Entering is not a crime in itself though.
It counts as tresspass, which is only a civil matter.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38058519]Entering is not a crime in itself though.
It counts as tresspass, which is only a civil matter.[/QUOTE]
Makes sense.
You're still charged with B&E even if you don't "break" anything. It's unlawful entry.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38058536]You're still charged with B&E even if you don't "break" anything. It's unlawful entry.[/QUOTE]
No you'll be charged with breaking and entering... if you broke and entered.
We're not living in a police state where you can get trumped up charges over things you didn't actually do.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38058558]No you'll be charged with breaking and entering... if you broke and entered.
We're not living in a police state where you can get trumped up charges over things you didn't actually do.[/QUOTE]
No, you're just living in a nanny state where people who commit serious crimes against foreign countries get off scott free.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38058536]You're still charged with B&E even if you don't "break" anything. It's unlawful entry.[/QUOTE]
Depends entirely on your country's, and even states definition of the breaking part iirc. Some country's and states see the breaking part only as forceful entry, and others see even breaking the perimeter (stepping trough an open door) as enough to charge with breaking and entering.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38058598]No, you're just living in a nanny state where people who commit serious crimes against foreign countries get off scott free.[/QUOTE]
That isn't what nanny state means...
lol
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[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38058599]and others see even breaking the perimeter (stepping trough an open door) as enough to charge with breaking and entering.[/QUOTE]
Really? I doubt that, but please correct me otherwise.
I mean, you'd have to sign some kind of form every time you enter your friends house.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38058612]That isn't what nanny state means...
lol
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Really? I doubt that, but please correct me otherwise.
I mean, you'd have to sign some kind of form every time you enter your friends house.[/QUOTE]
In these cases it's usually left to common sense.
Someone you know entering your house without your knowledge is a little shady, but not necessarily malicious.
Someone you don't know... Far more likely to be malicious.
This is why we have juries rather than just going on [B]exactly[/B] what the law says for everything.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;38058661]In these cases it's usually left to common sense.
Someone you know entering your house without your knowledge is a little shady, but not necessarily malicious.
Someone you don't know... Far more likely to be malicious.
This is why we have juries rather than just going on [B]exactly[/B] what the law says for everything.[/QUOTE]
That kind of 'offence' rarely gets put in front of a jury. If at all.
You most it'll get, if there is no evidence of any other crime is an injunction. Not a criminal record.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38058612]That isn't what nanny state means...
lol
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Really? I doubt that, but please correct me otherwise.
I mean, you'd have to sign some kind of form every time you enter your friends house.[/QUOTE]
If you enter you friends house you have permission, obviously.
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[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;38058661]In these cases it's usually left to common sense.
Someone you know entering your house without your knowledge is a little shady, but not necessarily malicious.
Someone you don't know... Far more likely to be malicious.
This is why we have juries rather than just going on [B]exactly[/B] what the law says for everything.[/QUOTE]
Juries are a joke.
This government is on a roll with regards to foreign policy. First EU, now US.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;38058249]I saw this guy have an interview on This Morning once, I remember it. Isn't he dyslexic? He was really good with computers and wanted to know more about UFO's so he hacked into US government computers. It's their fault for having shit security if a dyslexic brit managed to get into their computers.[/QUOTE]
As far as I remember, he's been diagnosed with autism and dyslexia. His autism was one of the factors they used to try to stop him from being extradited, I don't believe his dyslexia had anything to do with it.
He didn't 'get off scott free'
[quote]She said it was now for the Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer QC, to decide whether he should face trial in the UK.[/quote]
wonder what happened to that kid that setup the video sharing site. Did the mpaa get their way with him?
What gets me about this whole debacle is that even if what Gary McKinnon says he found is true, there's no way his evidence would ever stand up as:
a) nobody's seen it, it's all anecdotal and,
b) he freely admits to being as stoned as the Cliffs of Dover when he uncovered the alleged files.
Aside from breaking into a top-secret US database which the Americans have a right to be a little pissed over, I don't see why the US came down so hard on a guy with clinical depression and Asperger's who smokes a whole lot of gear. If they were trying to make an example of people that try and hack into their systems they chose the wrong poster boy for the cause. That, or maybe Gary did get a little too close to the truth :tinfoil:
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