• Meet Your Makers League of Legends team threatened Marcin "Kori" Wolski with seizure of parent's hom
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[url]http://www.dailydot.com/esports/mym-kori-threatened-unpaid-wages/[/url] [quote=Richard Lewis/The Daily Dot]Just days before the start of the League Championship Series, Meet Your Makers found themselves without a mid laner. Marcin "Kori" Wolski, who turned 18 on Feb. 7, left the team under unclear circumstances. Meet Your Makers went 1-3 in their first four matches with stand-in Marius "Blizer300" Hæsumgaard. Just two weeks after his departure, Wolski returned to the lineup, issuing an apology for his "selfish" behavior and paying a fine levied by the organization against him for breaching his contract. Many questioned the reasons why the young talent had wanted to leave so suddenly, especially with the season so close, and return just as fast. Now we know why. Wolski was owed several months of pay from his time last season in Supa Hot Crew, the Daily Dot has learned. Meet Your Makers denies any responsibility for said payments, stating that they were to be handled by AK3 GmbH and their CEO Sascha Ackermann, who owned Supa Hot Crew at the time. But AK3 and Meet Your Makers are inextricably linked: Several prominent former and current Meet Your Makers staff are AK3 employees, including Business Manager Martin Krause, Sales and Marketing Manager Cristian Manea and of course Ackermann himself, who previously held the role of business manager in Meet Your Makers. While Meet Your Makers maintains it has nothing to do with any of the payment issues from the Supa Hot Crew era, Wolski was not confident about facing similar issues with Meet Your Makers in the future. He also said he was no longer enjoying his time in the gaming house and wanted to leave. After informing the organization’s manager, Sebastian “Falli” Rotterdam, that he no longer wanted to play, Rotterdam became irate and attempted to intimidate the player in a phone call. Unknown to Rotterdam, Wolski recorded their exchange on his phone. [/quote]
e-sports are serious business.
[QUOTE=Adarrek;47102896]e-sports are serious business.[/QUOTE] When there is as much money as there is involved, anything is serious business.
Makes me damn sad we have devolved into such ridiculous creatures. Threaten a guy that had real reasons (and even if he didn't) to leave your team and or organization. Because money? What the serious F.
This is some gangster backhanded level shit, and it's fucking ridiculous that this is what "gaming" has become.
[QUOTE=Adarrek;47102896]e-sports are serious business.[/QUOTE] Its a joke.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47103032]Its a joke.[/QUOTE] It must be a multi-million dollar joke then.
E-sports is fake as shit it's essentially video gamings version of the WWE
At what point does gaming stop being fun? I'd say right about here.
It's not fake it's just rigged
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;47103175]It's not fake it's just rigged[/QUOTE] Like football.
[QUOTE=Del91;47103155]At what point does gaming stop being fun? I'd say right about here.[/QUOTE] When it becomes about money and not about fun. Same could be said about the industry really.
[QUOTE=garychencool;47103051]It must be a multi-million dollar joke then.[/QUOTE] Its making the game industry a joke, no more making games for people to enjoy and to admire, now making games that are only competitive.
[QUOTE=Telecaster;47103078]E-sports is fake as shit it's essentially video gamings version of the WWE[/QUOTE] but WWE is actually entertaining to watch
and hot chicks
[QUOTE=Del91;47103155]At what point does gaming stop being fun? I'd say right about here.[/QUOTE] this just in, football/baseball/soccer/basketball/hockey/racing/extreme sports are no longer fun because of competition.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;47103654]this just in, football/baseball/soccer/basketball/hockey/racing/extreme sports are no longer fun because of competition.[/QUOTE] I think you went wide of his point
[quote]A few days prior, Wolski had been in talks with North American organization Roar about joining the team as a top-laner. Wolski had an existing relationship with former Meet Your Makers coach Nick "LS" De Cesare, who's currently working with Roar. The talks were swift and the player was convinced he would be allowed to join the team, who are currently in the North American Challenger league, outside of the LCS. After flying out to Vancouver, where the organization is based, he learned that he would be prevented from playing with his new team in any official capacity. After Meet Your Makers management contacted Riot Games asserting Wolski had breached his contract, he learned via email that he would not be allowed to play for any other team for the duration of his contract, which was due to expire in January 2016. Ineligible to play for anyone else, he had no choice but to return to Meet Your Makers. After a conversation held with Meet Your Makers CEO Khalid Naim on the Jan. 30, Wolski learned that he'd be allowed to come back to the starting lineup. [/quote] so he decided to switch teams right before LCS but didn't understand how contracts work lmao
[QUOTE=Zambies!;47103699]I think you went wide of his point[/QUOTE] how, hes implying the e-sports players don't have fun when competing which is full of shit. If they didn't why would they keep being dedicated to it, just like other sports.
-snip- image macro, forgot the rules :(
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47103608]Its making the game industry a joke, no more making games for people to enjoy and to admire, now making games that are only competitive.[/QUOTE] yes like all these hot new e-sports games: people like you are honestly hilarious, you have so much hatred for people doing things you don't like and that have no affect on you
[QUOTE=codemaster85;47103721]how, hes implying the e-sports players don't have fun when competing which is full of shit. If they didn't why would they keep being dedicated to it, just like other sports.[/QUOTE] Money?
[QUOTE=DaMastez;47103996]Money?[/QUOTE] Money suddenly makes things not fun? Man, this is going to be hard to break to the thousands of professional athletes all over the world. "Hey guys, in case you didn't know, you're not having fun. Ever. Because money."
[QUOTE=Banned?;47104018]Money suddenly makes things not fun? Man, this is going to be hard to break to the thousands of professional athletes all over the world. "Hey guys, in case you didn't know, you're not having fun. Ever. Because money."[/QUOTE] I was replying to "If they didn't [have fun] why would they keep being dedicated to it". Or, more to the point, fun isn't the only reason people are be dedicated to esports or real sports. Not to mention in many regards esports can suck the fun out of a game. Having fun and making money aren't mutually exclusive; generally speaking it's quite the opposite, if you're winning you're having fun and you're making money. But, unless you're the absolute best team hands down you aren't going to always be winning, and if you're most teams you might not even be winning half of the time. On top of this, if you want to be and stay competitive you'll probably need to practice often. This is generally less stressful than actually matches, but it can still be an exercise in frustration if you aren't performing well.
[QUOTE=Adarrek;47102896]e-sports are serious business.[/QUOTE] It's not so much the e-sports, it's the fact there's a contract signed by his mom. He was too young to sign but she's an adult. So, as his parent, she can and did commit him to this deal. He can't just leave and play for someone else whenever he feels like it. They could have sued for breach of contract, which his mom would have to pay for. Would she lose her house? Maybe, depending on what the judgment was and if she had other means to pay. Now he's 18, he should try to renegotiate or even buy out his contract if possible. The way they acted was inexcusable though.
Wait if he was owed money doesn't he have a valid reason to jump ship? I mean don't contracts usually have clauses where you can terminate it unilaterally? Or am I getting something wrong?
Imagine if other sports players were locked up in a house with the rest of their team all the time, instead of going to training. You better really love your team, otherwise it's like being imprisoned.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;47103721]how, hes implying the e-sports players don't have fun when competing which is full of shit. If they didn't why would they keep being dedicated to it, just like other sports.[/QUOTE] he's saying that when you start getting threats over house seizures things generally stop being fun [editline]9th February 2015[/editline] stop and think for a second and interpret the post properly
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47103608]Its making the game industry a joke, no more making games for people to enjoy and to admire, now making games that are only competitive.[/QUOTE] this just in, playing a game competitively makes it no longer fun
[QUOTE=V12US;47104504]Imagine if other sports players were locked up in a house with the rest of their team all the time, instead of going to training. You better really love your team, otherwise it's like being imprisoned.[/QUOTE] Except they aren't? They play like you would normally with friends or alone. They tend to only meet for actual competitions because its a rule.
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