Palestinian sources: Abbas and Livni initiate new plan for truce and renewed negotiations

[ScumBunny]

[URL="http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/2689/2764924"]Source[/URL] (Hebrew) - I haven't found this in any international media site yet.

According to Palestinian sources Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, is trying to initiate truce negotiations between Israel and Hamas in an international summit with the participation of Israel, the PA, Arab nations and others to not only reach a permanent truce, but to also restart the peace process.
According to the same sources there's a similar effort on the side of Tzipi Livni, Israel's justice minister.

[Monkah]

Skeptical, considering Hamas's sole goal is to wipe Israel off the map, but best of luck to the two regardless. It'd be nice to see the conflicts down there calm down.

[Explosions]

Good luck with that permanent truce and all.

[Hugabuga]

[QUOTE=Monkah;45384447]Skeptical, considering Hamas's sole goal is to wipe Israel off the map, but best of luck to the two regardless. It'd be nice to see the conflicts down there calm down.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget israels goal to "claim their land".

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=Persious;45384531]Don't forget israels goal to "claim their land".[/QUOTE]

Not Hamas's land in the Gaza Strip. Israel is more interested in gaining territory in the West Bank.

[ScumBunny]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;45387481]Not Hamas's land in the Gaza Strip. Israel is more interested in gaining territory in the West Bank.[/QUOTE]

To be more specific, Israel is mostly interested in keeping the chunk of the West Bank that contains the Jewish population centers there like Kiryat Arba that are too large to move or dismantle.
A future treaty will likely include some kind of land trade where Israel gives the Palestinian state land elsewhere in exchange for the Jewish cities.
Israel would also prefer to keep east Jerusalem, although that has already been on the table during the Oslo negotiations and the Israeli public was open to serious concessions there when it seemed peace was viable.

What most Israelis don't want or need is the rest of the West Bank or Gaza strip. There are no resources there that we need, no cheap labor to exploit and most of us don't want to visit there, let alone live there.
The whole thing about "our ancestral land"? Most of us are secular, and we don't give two shits what the bible says about Hebron just as long as we don't have to pull reserve duty there.

Yes, there's a small and very laud messianic minority that really REALLY wants to annex all the occupied territories because GOD, and they do everything in their power to grab every tiny piece of land they can by expanding their tiny settlements and building tiny outposts all over the place while doing their best to fuck with the locals but you know what? The minute there's a real possibility of peace? Nobody's gonna give a rat's ass when they are all rounded up and hauled back into Israel proper and their little settlements bulldozed to shit.
Hell, did you see us shed tears when the entire settler population of the Gaza strip was evicted? And that was unilateral.

Don't mistake settlers for Israelis. Most of us aren't that attached to the territories. And neither is our government. Naftali Bennett not withstanding.