• US Firearms Sales fund Wildlife Projects - Funding up 33% from Last Year
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[quote]Federal excise taxes on sales of guns and ammunition get returned to state wildlife agencies. And the latest appropriation, just released by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was up 33 percent over the previous year.[/quote] [quote]The federal government disbursed $882.4 million to all 50 states through what are known as the Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration and Dingell-Johnson Sport Fish Restoration programs. The money comes from taxes on archery equipment, fishing gear and electric outboard motors, as well as firearms.[/quote] Thought it was an interesting article in the local paper. [url=http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/increased-gun-ammunition-sales-a-boon-for-montana-wildlife-projects/article_9cea8eeb-b72c-5c52-9875-62a2c42a6959.html]Source.[/url]
Save the planet, buy more guns
From the title I was assuming that it was gun manufacturers donating money, rather than it actually being federal taxes. These taxes also covering other things such as archery and fishing, so not all of that money is through weapons taxation.
[quote]The money comes from taxes on archery equipment, fishing gear and electric outboard motors, as well as firearms.[/quote] What about duck stamps, deer licenses, fishing licenses, etc..
[QUOTE=areolop;40023642]What about duck stamps, deer licenses, fishing licenses, etc..[/QUOTE] A lot of revenue made on those also goes back into Wildlife Projects/Conservation. For example, 98% of the proceeds from every Federal Duck Stamp (required to hunt migratory birds) goes directly to the Migratory Bird Conservation Fund. Hunting does a lot for wildlife conservation and nature preserves, even more so in developing countries such as those in Africa where it's usually the only thing keeping preserves operational. It might seem contradictory that the shooting deer helps deer as a whole, but it does, as long as it's legal. Those funds are separate from the equipment tax funds, however. [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;40023605]From the title I was assuming that it was gun manufacturers donating money, rather than it actually being federal taxes. These taxes also covering other things such as archery and fishing, so not all of that money is through weapons taxation.[/QUOTE] I'm sure that 290 million USD increase was due to sudden and unexpected renewed interest in fly fishing amongst today's youth.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;40023765]I'm sure that 290 million USD increase was due to sudden and unexpected renewed interest in fly fishing amongst today's youth.[/QUOTE] It's temporary, people are panic buying weaponry and munitions.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;40023765] It might seem contradictory that the shooting deer helps deer as a whole, but it does, as long as it's legal.[/QUOTE] Not to mention sometimes it's necessary to hunt animals to keep their populations in check, else risk their populations going over the environment's carrying capacity and thus causing them to starve to death and other major issues. That's how it is with the deer here, for the most part.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;40028208]Not to mention sometimes it's necessary to hunt animals to keep their populations in check, else risk their populations going over the environment's carrying capacity and thus causing them to starve to death and other major issues. That's how it is with the deer here, for the most part.[/QUOTE] It would probably help if some states didn't hunt on wolves to near extinction, wait for their numbers to [i]juuuust[/i] creak back over to a stable population, and then hunt them all over again, instead of allowing the wolves to put a dent in any overflourishing wildlife populations, which then also need to be hunted again.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40023605]From the title I was assuming that it was gun manufacturers donating money, rather than it actually being federal taxes. These taxes also covering other things such as archery and fishing, so not all of that money is through weapons taxation.[/QUOTE] You realize gun companies make hundreds of thousands of guns each year where a part of the proceeds from the sale of that firearm go to some kind of charity or project, like the [url=http://www.rmef.org/]Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation[/url], [url=http://www.ducks.org/]Ducks Unlimited[/url], the [url=http://www.nwtf.org/]National Wild Turkey Federation[/url], and/or pink camo guns whose manufacturers donate part of their sales to breast cancer research, like the [url=http://www.scdsammo.ca/product.php?item=Mark%20II%20F%20Pink%20Blaze%20Mossy%20Oak%2022LR%20Bolt%20Action&id=57&cid=3]Savage MkII F Pink Camo[/url]. So yes, gun companies do donate millions to wildlife and other projects through gun sales.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40028598]You realize gun companies make hundreds of thousands of guns each year where a part of the proceeds from the sale of that firearm go to some kind of charity or project, like the [url=http://www.rmef.org/]Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation[/url], [url=http://www.ducks.org/]Ducks Unlimited[/url], the [url=http://www.nwtf.org/]National Wild Turkey Federation[/url], and/or pink camo guns whose manufacturers donate part of their sales to breast cancer research, like the [url=http://www.scdsammo.ca/product.php?item=Mark%20II%20F%20Pink%20Blaze%20Mossy%20Oak%2022LR%20Bolt%20Action&id=57&cid=3]Savage MkII F Pink Camo[/url]. So yes, gun companies do donate millions to wildlife and other projects through gun sales.[/QUOTE] B-buht that's impossible, I thought all gun companies were run by mini-Hitlers hell bent on the destruction of western society?
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40029147]B-buht that's impossible, I thought all gun companies were run by mini-Hitlers hell bent on the destruction of western society?[/QUOTE] walmart gave nearly 1bn USD to charities this past year, that doesn't stop it from being an awful organization.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40023854]It's temporary, people are panic buying weaponry and munitions.[/QUOTE] Jesus, every thread, stop posting about anything weapons related when you know exactly jack shit.
Obama is the best thing to ever happen to the firearms industry. All of the panic and rush-buying for any price the company dictates, and none of the actual gun control action whatsoever!
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40029147]B-buht that's impossible, I thought all gun companies were run by mini-Hitlers hell bent on the destruction of western society?[/QUOTE] lol i love this logic, that an organization can wave away all its wrongdoing if it throws money at a charity or fund long enough i just committed triple homicide an hour ago but don't worry i bought the homeless man outside mcdonalds lunch
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030324]lol i love this logic, that an organization can wave away all its wrongdoing if it throws money at a charity or fund long enough i just committed triple homicide an hour ago but don't worry i bought the homeless man outside mcdonalds lunch[/QUOTE] Are the gun companies responsible for the actions of its customers?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030324]lol i love this logic, that an organization can wave away all its wrongdoing if it throws money at a charity or fund long enough i just committed triple homicide an hour ago but don't worry i bought the homeless man outside mcdonalds lunch[/QUOTE] What has Remmington or Bushmaster done that's comparable to a triple homicide?
[QUOTE=DuCT;40030484]Are the gun companies responsible for the actions of its customers?[/QUOTE] sorry where did i say this can you please quote me / remind me where i ever said this
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40030503]What has Remmington or Bushmaster done that's comparable to a triple homicide?[/QUOTE] Turned their guns into pieces of potmetal shit and ruin a once proud Canadian pistol company they bought.
gun companies aren't responsible for the actions of their customers but they're definitely responsible for their aggressive lobbying and financial incentive to make sure american gun laws are as minimal and ineffective as imaginable
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030535]gun companies aren't responsible for the actions of their customers but they're definitely responsible for their aggressive lobbying and financial incentive to make sure american gun laws are as minimal and ineffective as imaginable[/QUOTE] What do you expect them to do when there hasn't been a single piece of reasonable gun legislation proposed by congress?
I don't follow the discussions in these threads very closely but every time an article pops up with a gun-relating title I always see Sobotnik making posts that receive a lot of dumb ratings.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030505]sorry where did i say this can you please quote me / remind me where i ever said this[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kopimi]i just committed triple homicide an hour ago but don't worry i bought the homeless man outside mcdonalds lunch [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DuCT;40030653]i dont understand words and language[/QUOTE] yes the comparison was to illustrate that an entity cannot absolve itself of its wrongdoings by being charitable in the aftermath i don't see how you went from that to "SO GUN COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING KIDS IN CHICAGO??"
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030670]yes the comparison was to illustrate that an entity cannot absolve itself of its wrongdoings by being charitable in the aftermath i don't see how you went from that to "SO GUN COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING KIDS IN CHICAGO??"[/QUOTE] Except the entities which are the topic of the thread aren't committing any wrongdoings which they need to absolve themselves from.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40030677]Except the entities which are the topic of the thread aren't committing any wrongdoings which they need to absolve themselves from.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kopimi;40030535]gun companies aren't responsible for the actions of their customers but they're definitely responsible for their aggressive lobbying and financial incentive to make sure american gun laws are as minimal and ineffective as imaginable[/QUOTE] even if you disagree it was dumb as hell to come to the conclusion that i was saying gun manufacturers are responsible for the actions of customers
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030699]even if you disagree it was dumb as hell to come to the conclusion that i was saying gun manufacturers are responsible for the actions of customers[/QUOTE] They have every right to lobby for their own interests when there are entire organizations dedicated to harming them.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40030757]They have every right to lobby for their own interests when there are entire organizations dedicated to harming them.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kopimi;40030699][B]even if you disagree[/B] it was [B]dumb[/B] as hell to[B] come to the conclusion that i was saying gun manufacturers are responsible for the actions of customers[/B][/QUOTE]
And here comes the inevitable gun control debate! Oh joy.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40030767][/QUOTE] You compared gun manufacturers to murderers then decided to make it about lobbying in a comment after, how do you expect me to take the original comment any other fucking way when you failed to provide your actual context the first time? Not to mention you completely miscontrued my initial comment. I never claimed that donating money to charity absolves a company of wrongdoings, I was making a sarcastic comment on the demonization of firearms manufacturers and misplaced blame propagated by anti-gun groups. [QUOTE=Fhenexx;40030808]And here comes the inevitable gun control debate! Oh joy.[/QUOTE] No, this is about semantics now.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;40029967]Jesus, every thread, stop posting about anything weapons related when you know exactly jack shit.[/QUOTE] Surprisingly enough, when people exaggerate the impact of firearms legislation, exaggerate how important they are, exaggerate the impact of legislation, and exaggerate my position on firearms (I am probably the most rightwing person on firearms in my college), then I find the reason to be cynical is probably very justified.
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