[QUOTE]A trade association that represents Google, Yahoo, Cisco and Oracle has come out in support of a controversial cybersecurity bill that is slated to be voted on in the House next week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Several high-profile tech executives sit on TechNet's executive council, including Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer, [B]Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt[/B], Oracle President Safra Catz and venture capitalist John Doerr. A list of the members on TechNet's executive council are printed on the letter that the trade group sent to House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.).[/QUOTE]
[url]http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/293399-tech-group-representing-google-yahoo-backs-cispa[/url]
About time, sounds like a great bill.
Anybody wanna put this version of the bill in layman's terms?
and thus google continues its policy of alternating between doing cool shit and doing really fuckdumb shit
Or is CISPA less awful this time? I'm not clear on what's different from the last one.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;40257924]Anybody wanna put this version of the bill in layman's terms?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter what this bill is about all legislation pertaining to the internet is dumb just like guns.
Google isn't dumb like some of the other companies that backed it the first time around, so this puts me a bit more at ease.
On the other hand, they are a corporation, so it's possible that they're just backing the bill because it'll benefit them in some way.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;40257945]It doesn't matter what this bill is about all legislation pertaining to the internet is dumb just like guns.[/QUOTE]
No, it [I]does[/I] fucking matter what's in this bill. I'm pretty much expecting amendments that'll strip away freedoms at this point.
Even the White House is against this bill.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;40257956]No, it [I]does[/I] fucking matter what's in this bill. I'm pretty much expecting amendments that'll strip away freedoms at this point.[/QUOTE]
Good news everyone!
There are still bits in the bill that do not limit what is private and who the site owners can share it with and what the government can do to get that private info!
Wait that is not good news at all.
[quote]The bill would allow companies to share cyber threat data directly with the NSA, along with other government agencies.[/quote]
Cyber threat data, whatever that really means.
I like google but I'm not obstinately loyal like so many people seem to be these days, so I really hope they know what they're doing.
[QUOTE=person11;40257992]Even the White House is against this bill.[/QUOTE]
That's just 'cause 0bummer's a soshulist and doesn't wanna give the almighty job creators the power they deserve!
We [url=http://www.zdnet.com/dont-get-all-freaked-out-about-cispa-again-yet-7000013907/]still don't know[/url] what the bill says or does. Could be fine or could be literally Hitler
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;40257924]Anybody wanna put this version of the bill in layman's terms?[/QUOTE]
[quote=The Hill]The bill would allow companies to share cyber threat data directly with the NSA, along with other government agencies.[/quote]
Does that help?
[QUOTE=smurfy;40258070]We [url=http://www.zdnet.com/dont-get-all-freaked-out-about-cispa-again-yet-7000013907/]still don't know[/url] what the bill says or does. Could be fine or could be literally Hitler[/QUOTE]
I do not get why he says dont panic when we should be anyways. We need to know what they are doing.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;40257924]Anybody wanna put this version of the bill in layman's terms?[/QUOTE]
According to [url=http://www.cispaisback.org/]CISPAsback.org[/url]:
It lets the government spy on you without a warrant. [url=https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-government-access-loophole]Read more.[/url]
It makes it so you can’t even find out about it after the fact. [url=http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/04/13/cispa-is-terrible-for-transparency/]Read more.[/url]
It makes it so companies can’t be sued when they do illegal things with your data. [url=https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq#company]Read more.[/url]
It allows corporations to cyber-attack each other and individuals outside of the law. [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/cyberattacks-the-complexities-of-attacking-back-88702.html?hp=r14]Read more.[/url]
It makes every privacy policy on the web a moot point, and violates the 4th amendment. [url=http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/government-doesnt-need-your-private-info-cybersecurity-members-congress-still]Read more.[/url]
[QUOTE=PassTheBong;40258126]According to [url=http://www.cispaisback.org/]CISPAsback.org[/url]:
It lets the government spy on you without a warrant. [url=https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-government-access-loophole]Read more.[/url]
It makes it so you can’t even find out about it after the fact. [url=http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/04/13/cispa-is-terrible-for-transparency/]Read more.[/url]
It makes it so companies can’t be sued when they do illegal things with your data. [url=https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq#company]Read more.[/url]
It allows corporations to cyber-attack each other and individuals outside of the law. [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/cyberattacks-the-complexities-of-attacking-back-88702.html?hp=r14]Read more.[/url]
It makes every privacy policy on the web a moot point, and violates the 4th amendment. [url=http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/government-doesnt-need-your-private-info-cybersecurity-members-congress-still]Read more.[/url][/QUOTE]
So it's the same shit as last time. Letting the government be authoritarian, and letting corporations go crazy.
Does anybody know what this means to us europeans?
Will the US be dicking around with our data aswell? Though i suspect they may already be.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;40258242]Does anybody know what this means to us europeans?
Will the US be dicking around with our data aswell? Though i suspect they may already be.[/QUOTE]
they will be sticking their dicks in everyones data no matter where they are
~Leaders of the free world~
If you read the article, it seems to focus more on things like viruses and DDOS threats rather than piracy, this might not be bad. Either way, I'll be paying attention to this
[QUOTE=Ericson666;40258404]If you read the article, it seems to focus more on things like viruses and DDOS threats rather than piracy, this might not be bad. Either way, I'll be paying attention to this[/QUOTE]
They always say that. They always lie by omission. There's always something toxic in these kinds of bills.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;40258451]They always say that. They always lie by omission. There's always something toxic in these kinds of bills.[/QUOTE]
If that's the attitude they're taking, why should any bill they pass be acceptable?
[QUOTE=PassTheBong;40258126]According to [url=http://www.cispaisback.org/]CISPAsback.org[/url]:
It makes it so companies can’t be sued when they do illegal things with your data. [url=https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq#company]Read more.[/url]
[/QUOTE]
Thus nullifying the Data Protection Act?
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;40258291]~Leaders of the free world~[/QUOTE]
electronic old men
[url=https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/cispa-amendment-and-passed-out-committee-heres-why-new-version-still-threatens]The EFF has a good write up on this.[/url]
my internet freedoms
Google supports it? Google supporting something makes it good right?
I really hope I can trust google on this one like I normally do.
Let's hope it doesn't have any sneaky loopholes that serve sinister purposes like normal.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40259887]Google supports it? Google supporting something makes it good right?
I really hope I can trust google on this one like I normally do.
Let's hope it doesn't have any sneaky loopholes that serve sinister purposes like normal.[/QUOTE]
They are supporting it because it will most likely keep them out of court if they do something stupid under the law.
[QUOTE=person11;40257992]Even the White House is against this bill.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't that mean it could die there?
[QUOTE=smurfy;40258070]We [url=http://www.zdnet.com/dont-get-all-freaked-out-about-cispa-again-yet-7000013907/]still don't know[/url] what the bill says or does. Could be fine or could be literally Hitler[/QUOTE]
Knowing the way Congress has been running the past 10 or 15 years the former is about as likely as a powerball win.
[editline]12th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;40260192]Doesn't that mean it could die there?[/QUOTE]
No. Congress can and will override the presidential veto. They've done it before and they'd most likely do it here.
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