• Red Dead Redemption was never seriously considered for PC, says ex-dev
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I feel like this should've been stated 5 years ago
I felt like people should have already accepted it
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;48785958]Once emulators for XB360/PS3 are stable enough to provide fast enough FPS this will be no longer a problem.[/QUOTE] Which will probably only be possible in like 5-10 years.
[QUOTE=simkas;48785959]Which will probably only be possible in like 5-10 years.[/QUOTE] 5 years. Things are going fast. Everytime i look at the progress of these emulators i get impressed again. [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] [quote]we were all PC-based and had it running for win32 clients for the entire development[/quote] Fucking Rockstar. Can't believe everyone fell for their "Oh we lost the source code xD sry PC guyse"
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;48785969]5 years. Things are going fast. Everytime i look at the progress of these emulators i get impressed again. [/QUOTE] I still can't properly play all the PS2 games I want on an emulator. Not even all N64 work the way they should. I notice some improvement on the interface and usability but not on the functionality of the games.
i tried playing rdr, that shit resolution and low fps made me stop playing it :v:
are people REALLY still fighting for red dead pc? Rockstar straight up won't do it and its already known that if it were ported to pc most of the game would need to undergo serious engineering and recoding to such an extent it wouldn't interest a dev to port a 5 year old sandbox game when they just released a best selling huge money making sandbox on the pc.
[QUOTE=Giraffen93;48786010]i tried playing rdr, that shit resolution and low fps made me stop playing it :v:[/QUOTE] I tried playing PS3 Red Dead and it was too much for me. Xbox 360 was bearable though.
"We didn't want more money"
[QUOTE=Tobin;48786142]I tried playing PS3 Red Dead and it was too much for me. Xbox 360 was bearable though.[/QUOTE] i did it on 360 too, bleh i finished gtav on ps3 and that was a horror show, dipping below 20 in certain places
[QUOTE=Viva;48786119]are people REALLY still fighting for red dead pc? Rockstar straight up won't do it and its already known that if it were ported to pc most of the game would need to undergo serious engineering and recoding to such an extent it wouldn't interest a dev to port a 5 year old sandbox game when they just released a best selling huge money making sandbox on the pc.[/QUOTE] [quote]we were all PC-based and had it running for win32 clients for the entire development[/quote]
"Why would we port one of our popular games to another system?"
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;48785958]Once emulators for XB360/PS3 are stable enough to provide fast enough FPS this will be no longer a problem.[/QUOTE] Xbox emulators are practically impossible to make. 360 or original. PS3 emulation is in very very early days right now, so it'll probably be another 5 years before most of the library for it is playable. At that point, it would just be less of a hassle to get a used Xbox 360 and a copy of the game off of eBay. You'll want to play the Xbox 360 version anyway, as the PS3 version had a lot of issues. I assume those issues would only be amplified over an emulator, and the game would have even more issues due to being emulated. [QUOTE=AcidAmbience;48786149]"We didn't want more money"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=megafat;48786282]"Why would we port one of our popular games to another system?"[/QUOTE] You guys have to remember that RDR was after GTA IV, and the release of GTA IV on PC was just a travesty. Not only did the game get bashed for having shit performance due to terrible optimization and obtrusive DRM, but the game was pirated a fuckton. I wouldn't be surprised if R* didn't want to re-live that for a PC version of RDR. And given some of the development rumors of RDR being a complete mess from just about every angle, I'm sure they weren't confident in their abilities to port the game over. Even if they were, they probably thought it was just going to get pirated anyway, so they didn't bother. R* only really got back into making PC ports once they became the developers of Max Payne 3, Max Payne being a very popular series on PC. By that time, they probably optimized their engine for PC releases. And due to the praise the PC version of Max Payne 3 got, R* decided they'd do one for GTA V. Though I'm sure GTA V being massively popular regardless egged them on as well.
[QUOTE=Rahu X;48786647]Xbox emulators are practically impossible to make. 360 or original. PS3 emulation is in very very early days right now, so it'll probably be another 5 years before most of the library for it is playable. At that point, it would just be less of a hassle to get a used Xbox 360 and a copy of the game off of eBay. You'll want to play the Xbox 360 version anyway, as the PS3 version had a lot of issues. I assume those issues would only be amplified over an emulator, and the game would have even more issues due to being emulated.[/QUOTE] Microsoft made an xbox 360 emulator backwards compatibility on xbox one
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;48786680]which is ALREADY HAPPENING [video=youtube;2gMLfzM9n0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gMLfzM9n0M[/video][/QUOTE] People are going to see the bugs and say it's shit, but they don't consider the huge leap that is from nothing at all and consensual impossibility we had like a year ago.
[QUOTE=redBadger;48786676]Microsoft made an xbox 360 emulator backwards compatibility on xbox one[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's made by Microsoft. The company who made the Xbox 360. They have the specs for their own hardware (makes sense). We don't, because they usually don't release the specs for their hardware out to the public. Even if they do, both the original Xbox and 360 had very specialized hardware that isn't as easy to write emulation code for. You can't really emulate a console that you know nothing about spec wise. All the awesome and functional emulators that you see now are a result of the developers getting to know all of the hardware details about said consoles and writing applications that emulate said hardware as closely as possible.
RDR is such wasted potential due to not being on PC [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] Though I'd bet on a RD game being in development right now, and it's most likely coming to the PC
[QUOTE=Rahu X;48786701]Yeah, that's made by Microsoft. The company who made the Xbox 360. They have the specs for their own hardware (makes sense). We don't, because they usually don't release the specs for their hardware out to the public. Even if they do, both the original Xbox and 360 had very specialized hardware that isn't as easy to write emulation code for. You can't really emulate a console that you know nothing about spec wise. All the awesome and functional emulators that you see now are a result of the developers getting to know all of the hardware details about said consoles and writing applications that emulate said hardware as closely as possible.[/QUOTE] The original xbox wasn't really very specialized at all. Far less than the PS2, and we've got that fine. The xbox basically boiled down to a Pentium 3 and a custom nvidia chip.
The HD re-release that desperately needs to happen but probably never will :frown:
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;48786892]The HD re-release that desperately needs to happen but probably never will :frown:[/QUOTE] Imagine it re-released on the modified engine I wonder how hard that would be to pull off and port to PC
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;48786892]The HD re-release that desperately needs to happen but probably never will :frown:[/QUOTE] Rockstar never did HD remasters of their games. Unless we'll see mobile port in 5 years maybe.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48786008]I still can't properly play all the PS2 games I want on an emulator. Not even all N64 work the way they should. I notice some improvement on the interface and usability but not on the functionality of the games.[/QUOTE] The only games I know for the PS2 emulator that don't work are the Ace Combat games, and that's actually due to DRM within the Ace Combat games themselves.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48786008]I still can't properly play all the PS2 games I want on an emulator. Not even all N64 work the way they should. I notice some improvement on the interface and usability but not on the functionality of the games.[/QUOTE] that's because pcsx2, I can play wii games just fine at upscaled resolutions.
[QUOTE=the tee;48787055]Rockstar never did HD remasters of their games. Unless we'll see mobile port in 5 years maybe.[/QUOTE] All we need is GTA V treatment, next gen consoles and pc re-release with touched up graphics
[QUOTE=Rahu X;48786647]Xbox emulators are practically impossible to make. 360 or original.[/QUOTE] This is the first time I have ever heard that and considering a 360 emulator already exists I'm inclined to not believe you about the original Xbox either. AFAIK the original Xbox actually ran a modified version of windows on an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU. You wouldn't even need an emulator, an Xbox virtualization software would probably be enough and run much, much, much faster. [QUOTE=eirexe;48787455]that's because pcsx2, I can play wii games just fine at upscaled resolutions.[/QUOTE] PS2 is just really, really hard to emulate. PCSX2 is not the problem.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;48786680]which is ALREADY HAPPENING [video=youtube;2gMLfzM9n0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gMLfzM9n0M[/video][/QUOTE] PS3 will be quite a bit more complicated because of its CPU. [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;48787319]The only games I know for the PS2 emulator that don't work are the Ace Combat games, and that's actually due to DRM within the Ace Combat games themselves.[/QUOTE] All of the Ratchet and Clank titles are unplayable.
Some emulate/reverse-engineering communities just gain a lot of traction while others just kinda linger into non-existence. It doesn't have that much to do with the system itself, its more about the information and source code thats out there, how its shared and the community involved in it. The Xbox has emulators that "function" for certain specific games is just that nobody ever pushed it further then that, but there is no technical reason why it couldn't be.
Red Dead Redemption: One of the best games I ever played. someone port it. PS3, Xbox, doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48789211]PS3 will be quite a bit more complicated because of its CPU. [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] All of the Ratchet and Clank titles are unplayable.[/QUOTE] According to the wiki they all work tho.
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