...Why does Ubuntu have such a slow release cycle for new applications? I've tried Googling and searching around a bit, but I can't really find an explanation.
Why is Firefox still at version 3.0.x? I know you can install Shiretoko with firefox-3.5, but I seriously can't see one valid reason why the real "firefox" package is still at the last major release. Why is the kernel still at 2.6.28? I'd really love to see 2.6.30, since rt2860 support is broken in earlier versions.
I'd want to use Arch, but I just find it so irritating to try to install software packaged as deb/whatever when it's not in the repositories/AUR. That's why I see Ubuntu as a great solution otherwise - it's the most supported desktop distro.
Informative.
Its difficult to test everything mid release cycle.
Thats why the newest packages are pushed to testing and unstable for debian, and why arch and gentoo are considered to be at high risk of bugs.
2.6.30 is available in the ubuntu next repo btw.
[QUOTE=zyxxyz;17261515]...Why does Ubuntu have such a slow release cycle for new applications? I've tried Googling and searching around a bit, but I can't really find an explanation.
Why is Firefox still at version 3.0.x? I know you can install Shiretoko with firefox-3.5, but I seriously can't see one valid reason why the real "firefox" package is still at the last major release. Why is the kernel still at 2.6.28? I'd really love to see 2.6.30, since rt2860 support is broken in earlier versions.
I'd want to use Arch, but I just find it so irritating to try to install software packaged as deb/whatever when it's not in the repositories/AUR. That's why I see Ubuntu as a great solution otherwise - it's the most supported desktop distro.[/QUOTE]
Because once the distro for the 6-month period comes out, they only release security fixes to the existing packages.
This makes it easier for QA and reduces the risk of introducing bugs.
Fedora is freaking crazy. Fedora 11 came with Linux 2.6.29, and just a couple weeks ago they updated to 2.6.30. And for Firefox, it came with 3.5 Beta 4, but they've since updated to 3.5 final.
I wish everything was a .deb file, that way i could use Kpackage to install things instead of the terminal
@OP: If something isn't in the repos I usually install it from source, or using makepkg.
[QUOTE=nos217;17284235]@OP: If something isn't in the repos I usually install it from source, or using makepkg.[/QUOTE]
The trouble with doing that is that it hurts the maintainability of your system in the long run.
When you install something from source, the package system doesn't know about it, and can't automatically upgrade or remove it, so at best you end up with obsolete junk filling up /usr/local, and there's a possibility of things breaking when you upgrade the rest of the system due to new versions of packages conflicting with things that you installed manually.
[QUOTE=Wyzard;17285634]The trouble with doing that is that it hurts the maintainability of your system in the long run.
When you install something from source, the package system doesn't know about it, and can't automatically upgrade or remove it, so at best you end up with obsolete junk filling up /usr/local, and there's a possibility of things breaking when you upgrade the rest of the system due to new versions of packages conflicting with things that you installed manually.[/QUOTE]
You could leave the source code lying around, and use make uninstall.
Yeah I have a folder called "sources" in home/craig.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;17287211]You could leave the source code lying around, and use make uninstall.[/QUOTE]
Handy. Did not know that.
I have a feeling it has a lot to do with be a juggernaut of a distro. I'm sure they have a more stringent set of Q-A guidelines that is comparable to OpenBSD.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;17266176]Fedora is freaking crazy. Fedora 11 came with Linux 2.6.29, and just a couple weeks ago they updated to 2.6.30. And for Firefox, it came with 3.5 Beta 4, but they've since updated to 3.5 final.[/QUOTE]
You're talking about Fedora Rawhide. Rawhide updates all packages on a daily basis, which requires the user to know what they're doing due to the fact that the updates are often buggy or unstable. If you want a stable version of Fedora, go back to FC9 or 7 where packages are frozen.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;17302401]You're talking about Fedora Rawhide. Rawhide updates all packages on a daily basis, which requires the user to know what they're doing due to the fact that the updates are often buggy or unstable. If you want a stable version of Fedora, go back to FC9 or 7 where packages are frozen.[/QUOTE]
That was on Fedora 11, not rawhide. :v:
But yes, Fedora 10, 9, or 8 wouldn't be updating the kernel like that.
If you want bleeding edge, use Sabayon :V
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