Arabic foreign language class at Daphne High teaches 'a culture of hate,' some parents say
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[quote]But some Daphne residents are upset that the Baldwin County school system is permitting its students to learn what they call “a culture of hate.”
“When you teach Arabic, you have to teach the culture along with it,” said Chuck Pyritz, whose two sons, Isaiah, 17, and Isaac, 14, attend Daphne High. “The culture is intertwined with Islam.”
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[quote]“This is America, and English is our language, and while I understand the alleged premise of offering Arabic at our high school, I don’t agree with it,” said Michael Rife, who lives in Daphne. “It is not just another language; it is a language of a religion of hate. I’m concerned about our taxpayer dollars going to fund such a program, because I don’t believe it has a lot of foundational value.[/quote]
[quote]“If they want to speak their language, that is their privilege in this country,” she said. “But don’t silence another voice, such as Christianity. … We are not a Muslim nation, and yet they’re trying to bring this kind of nonsense into (schools). I am absolutely against it.”
Rife was also disturbed, she said, about the possibility of her grandchildren studying Islam. “It’s a great concern to me, because they’re being indoctrinated with this,” she said.[/quote]
[url]http://blog.al.com/live/2013/10/arabic_foreign_language_class.html[/url]
I bet that Muslim in the White-House did this!
i really hate that culture of hate
[QUOTE=Lamar;42387358][url]http://blog.al.com/live/2013/10/arabic_foreign_language_class.html[/url]
I bet that Muslim in the White-House did this![/QUOTE]
[quote]When you teach Arabic, you have to teach the culture along with it[/quote]
Right, because when you learn Spanish you have to be taught the historical and cultural context of the language, like the Crusades and the Inquisition and the conquest of the New World. Spanish is [i]literally[/i] the language of oppression, right? Same logic.
[quote]We are not a Muslim nation[/quote] We're not a fucking anything nation, you twats. We're secular.
[quote]because I don’t believe it has a lot of foundational value.[/quote] Ignoring whatever the fuck "foundational" value is, learning something like Arabic would be incredibly useful. Use it to get a fucking job as a diplomat or translator or something, it's not a useless skill like you asinine swine make it out to be.
[QUOTE]Right, because when you learn Spanish you have to be taught the historical and cultural context of the language, like the Crusades and the Inquisition and the conquest of the New World. Spanish is literally the language of oppression, right? Same logic.
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And English is the language of freedom and of democracy.
Hurrah, 'Murica
haha, "don't silence another voice, such as christianity"
what the fuck do you think you're doing when you're calling for a ban on teaching arabic you ignorant ass
it's like saying we should ban spanish because it promotes illegal immigration
The only language we need to be teaching is American
Making our kids culturally diverse poisons their minds with jihad and murder
[quote]“If they want to speak their language, that is their privilege in this country,” she said. “But don’t silence another voice, such as Christianity"[/quote]
Yeah they should stop silencing Latin
As a student of Arabic for 5 years now, I can attest that this is total bullshit
Things I have learned from Arabic:
1. How to speak the language
2. Some aspects of the culture/Islamic religion
3. The wonders of Middle Eastern food
Things I have not learned from Arabic:
1. Bomb-building
2. America-hating
3. How to silence Christians
There are people out there who actually believe this and are willing to talk to the media about it so everyone would know that they think like that.
Why.
[QUOTE=Bootlord;42388074]
1. Bomb-building
2. America-hating
3. How to silence Christians[/QUOTE]
These types of people also seem to be the type that want to cripple/ban science classes.
Learning the culture surrounding a language is genuinely an integral part of learning it, but I feel that these parents' concerns are just unfounded prejudice against Islamic cultures.
[quote]“This is America, and English is our language,[/quote]
Legally speaking: the United States has no official language, some states and the Peurto Rico territory do (several have multiple), but "America" as a whole has no official language, English is just the de facto language as it's spoken by an overwhelming majority.
Not to mention most US schools teach other foreign languages anyway, kind of nice to see one spicing it up from the usual, although Arabic might be a bit harder for students to learn.
[QUOTE]and yet they’re trying to bring this kind of nonsense into (schools). I am absolutely against it.[/QUOTE]
Oh the irony.
nice to see them throw their christian arab brothers and sisters under the bus
[QUOTE=thisispain;42388300]nice to see them throw their christian arab brothers and sisters under the bus[/QUOTE]
what are you talking about all brown people are terrorist
[quote]“If they want to speak their language, that is their privilege in this country,” she said. “[B]But don’t silence another voice, such as Christianity[/B]. … We are not a Muslim nation, and yet they’re [B]trying to bring this kind of nonsense into (schools)[/B]. I am absolutely against it.”
Rife was also disturbed, she said, about the possibility of her grandchildren studying Islam. “It’s a great concern to me, [B]because they’re being indoctrinated with this[/B],” she said.[/quote]
I got fucking chills from the stupidity in this quote.
[quote] “But don’t silence another voice, such as Christianity."[/quote]
So it's perfectly okay if YOU silence another voice because you don't like islam and are a bigoted fuckstick?
[quote] … We are not a Muslim nation[/quote]
We're not a Christian one either, bitch.
[quote] and yet they’re trying to bring this kind of nonsense into schools.[/quote]
It's just another language. [quote] I am absolutely against it.”[/quote]
I am absolutely against bigoted fucks like you. Please emigrate and renounce your US citizenship.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;42388344]I got fucking chills from the stupidity in this quote.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of Michelle Bachman.
She'll be running for president apparently.
well to be fair, they can't learn chinese or russian because THOSE ARE COMMUNIST LANGUAGES!!!! and french or spanish are useless, and german is not in most highschools either....
we seriously are screwed by not teaching languages in schools because like every foreign school out there learns english. its kinda hard though because theres no real clear focus on what language our schools should teach, personally i think chinese or japanese would be great because of the completely different grammar structure and unique characters.
that or programming but the christian bible-thumpers still argue that global warming is a myth and that evolution doesn't exist because we've only existed for 6000 years. the state of our public schools and the extent that lobbiests have on it is terrible
I fucking hate it when people say the US is a "christian nation"
German is the language of nazism and holocaust
obviously
Muslim langauge? People forget that there are more than 10 million Christians who speak Arabic as a first language... (that number being in the Middle East alone, there are millions more who speak it in diaspora)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42387826]Yeah they should stop silencing Latin[/QUOTE]
I heard greek is all the rave in a big part of christianity :P
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42388058]Hell, I'd give anything to be taught something other than spanish and french, they're both so boring.[/QUOTE]
We have it even worse over here. English. Everywhere. Fuck you, I speak English
[QUOTE=Sableye;42388498]well to be fair, they can't learn chinese or russian because THOSE ARE COMMUNIST LANGUAGES!!!! and french or [b]spanish[/b] are useless, and german is not in most highschools either....[/quote]
You're saying that one of the most widely used languages is useless? If you know english already, spanish is pretty easy to learn compared to other languages and is pretty widely spoken in America. If you know decent spanish, it sets you out from the rest of the applicants for a job.
The reason Chinese and Russian aren't offered in most American schools is because 1, they're both hard to learn as they require you to learn another alphabet, and 2, not many people locally speak it.
Don't get me wrong though, Mandarin Chinese is THE most widely spoken language in the world, but it is best learned in a college environment where people are learning the language because they need/want it, not to add something to their college application.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;42388956]You're saying that one of the most widely used languages is useless? If you know english already, spanish is pretty easy to learn compared to other languages.
The reason Chinese and Russian aren't offered in most American schools is because 1, they're both hard to learn as they require you to learn another alphabet, and 2, not many people locally speak it.
Don't get me wrong though, Mandarin Chinese is THE most widely spoken language in the world, but it is best learned in a college environment where people are learning the language because they need/want it, not to add something to their college application.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it easier for kids to learn new languages at a young age or was that just some bullshit I read?
Probably just uninformed people.
I know that when I learned Spanish, I had to learn recent history and old history along with it, as well as a lot of the culture.
To be honest, the Arabic cultures have a tenancy to be... not so nice to peoples who conflict with their culture; The class would, of course, not teach these morals, but if you're a concerned parent, I can understand at least a bit of concern.
[QUOTE=Zet;42388985]Isn't it easier for kids to learn new languages at a young age or was that just some bullshit I read?[/QUOTE]
Yes, as their minds are still developing. They absorb information like a sponge. The idea though is that chinese is a language with an immense character set of nearly 10k characters. You need to know roughly 3-4 thousand of these to be able to read a newspaper. Japanese is somewhat the same but the idea behind both is that is it significantly easier to speak the language than read it. So it is possible to teach the kids such complex languages but it will be a long time before they master reading and writing it.
I was listening to some Punjabi music (language from India-Pakistan region) yesterday and some dude started yelling at me to turn off my arabic terrorism provoking music because we were near a church.
America sure is full of a lot more of these ignorant folks as compared to my experience growing up in Canada, at least so far from what I've seen. Teaching of Arabic or any sort of eastern language like that wouldn't be looked down upon really at all, by anyone in Canada.
Okay nevermind I take that back, maybe Quebec
I'm taking Arabic courses this January to hopefully learn to speak the tongue of my home country, can't wait. Arabic is [I]incredibly[/I] poetic, and words have a multitude of meanings, which leaves simple sentences open to so many interpretations. Plus, it sounds beautiful - if spoken correctly.
[editline]3rd October 2013[/editline]
When I hear my friends speak their Egyptian dialect, it sounds amazing.
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