A "Rocketeer" Sequel is in the Works - Polidicks

[url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rocketeer-disney-movie-reboot-works-915037?]Hollywood Reporter[/url] [quote]The Rocketeer is ready to blast off once again. Walt Disney Studios is developing a reboot of the 1991 action adventure movie, hiring Max Winkler and Matt Spicer to pen the script, which is being titled The Rocketeers. The project, in the early development stages, is considered a sequel-reboot and, in a modern-day twist, will be headlined by a black female character. Brigham Taylor, who produced The Jungle Book with Jon Favreau, is producing along with Blake Griffin of the L.A. Clippers and Ryan Kalil of the Carolina Panthers.[/quote] Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist and didn't read the full article, this seems to be something along the lines of the new Star Wars movies. [quote]The new take keeps the story in a period setting and offers a fresh view on the characters. Set six years after the original Rocketeer and after Secord has vanished while fighting the Nazis, an unlikely new hero emerges: a young African–American female pilot, who takes up the mantle of Rocketeer in an attempt to stop an ambitious and corrupt rocket scientist from stealing jet-pack technology in what could prove to be a turning point in the Cold War.[/quote]

african american female pilots in the 1950s...??

[QUOTE=Luni;50790087]african american female pilots in the 1950s...??[/QUOTE] She better be openly lesbian.

[QUOTE=Luni;50790087]african american female pilots in the 1950s...??[/QUOTE] I mean in a world with rocket packs and other impossible things, I don't think this should be the hang up of 'oh hey this doesn't fit the history'

[QUOTE=Dwarfy77;50790132]I mean in a world with rocket packs and other impossible things, I don't think this should be the hang up of 'oh hey this doesn't fit the history'[/QUOTE] ya but the rocketpack is the ONLY piece of alt history, well besides a zepplin somehow sneaking into the US undetected

I mean, we had the Tuskegee Airmen during WWII.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willa_Brown[/url] [QUOTE] In 1938, she became the first African American woman who earned a private pilot's license in the United States [/QUOTE] Seeing as how the first commercial African American woman pilot existed in 1938 and this movie takes place a full decade plus later, I don't think it's necessarily [I]alt history[/I] to have her as a character here.

All Fired up!

I loved the Rocketeer. I hope they do it proper justice! [editline]28th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Butthurter;50790163]damn it all affirmative action has ruined another piece of alternate history/scifi[/QUOTE] Are you being for real right now?

[QUOTE=Luni;50790087]african american female pilots in the 1950s...??[/QUOTE] It doesn't say she's in the military

[QUOTE]a [B]unlikely[/B] new hero emerges - a [B]young African–American female[/B][/QUOTE] these writers sure are progressive :goodjob: i wouldn't be surprised if this bombs or only generates enough revenue to cover the budget. the original rocketeer bombed and was mediocre at best, and ghostbusters 2016 has shown us that the people who feed on manufactured controversy like this never actually watch the media they are trying to promote.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;50790376]im sorry i shouldve added more exclamation marks to make it satire[/QUOTE] People get mad about such stupid shit these days that it's honestly difficult to tell satire from reality. For all the complaining the alt-right does about SJWs taking offense to everything, they sure are sensitive.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50790456]People get mad about such stupid shit these days that it's honestly difficult to tell satire from reality. For all the complaint the alt-right does about SJWS raking offense to everything, they sure are sensitive.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Butthurter;50790464]honestly every single complain in this thread is genuinely cute[/QUOTE] You two do realize that there are about 2 posts that have at most a mixed reaction right? Wait a little longer before wanking over your opinions.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50790456]People get mad about such stupid shit these days that it's honestly difficult to tell satire from reality. For all the complaint the alt-right does about SJWS raking offense to everything, they sure are sensitive.[/QUOTE] Were just trying to add balance for the Neo-liberals and Syndicated-Libertarians.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50790456] For all the complaint the alt-right does about SJWS raking offense to everything, they sure are sensitive.[/QUOTE] it's not just the alt right who complains rightfully so and not all alt right are sensitive. That said, it's just a cookie cutter checklist unless it's like ghostbusters 2016 which has an misandrist agenda, but can't tell yet. I liked Rocketeer, it could be good, but it depends on the writing yet it's not brave enough to be an original IP to stand on it's own.

It has a black woman as the lead, it's clearly trash that exists only to pander. Don't even bother waiting to see a second of the movie, based on this information we can safely conclude that it's going to be garbage.

I have no problem with diversity, i DO have a problem when diversity is only done for diversities sake or when people make a big deal out of it in an attempt to look progressive or pander. Like, i dont see the purpose in making a big deal out of "look its a black character SHE'S BLAAACK" okay i get it. I hope the movies good. [editline]28th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Reds;50790682]It has a black woman as the lead, it's clearly trash that exists only to pander. Don't even bother waiting to see a second of the movie, based on this information we can safely conclude that it's going to be garbage.[/QUOTE] *Ignoring the recent trend in attempting to force diversity and having said diversity be the only goal in developing your movie/comic/game, resulting in a lackluster product that ranges from potentially good to abysmal, but usually averaging as meh, resulting in something nobody really likes (except people whining and complaining who usually dont buy the product anyway).

Some people spend so much time complaining about forced diversity and political correctness gone mad that they end up in a bizarre place where if you have anybody but a generic white guy as your lead you're pandering to those wacky SJWs and should be publicly shamed. That's the extreme end of the scale, anyway. She probably isn't even military, just some random pilot, which is considerably less of a stretch. It's a movie about jetpacks, don't worry too much about it. I agree that given the setting it's an unnatural choice, but there's nothing about it that means it's automatically going to to be poorly written as a result. I'll complain about forced diversity if her place in the film is awkwardly forced or if she's a garbage character.

[QUOTE=Reds;50790704]She probably isn't even military, just some random pilot, which is considerably less of a stretch. It's a movie about jetpacks, don't worry too much about it. I agree that given the setting it's a somewhat unnatural choice, but there's nothing about it that means it's automatically going to to be poorly written as a result.[/QUOTE] In this specific case? No i dont think theres need to worry yet. Its unorthodox and given the setting and characters i suppose it could be done intentionally in a way that might be cool, but we'll see.

I think it's a great idea. Question is, will they be brave enough to take advantage of the adversity she could be facing in this time period and make an interesting story out of it, or will it be ignored?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50790749]I think it's a great idea. Question is, will they be brave enough to take advantage of the adversity she could be facing in this time period and make a good story out of it, or will it be ignored?[/QUOTE] If they actually do bite the bullet and acknowledge the problems both a woman and a black person would face at that time in addition to being a superhero i could see it actually being a really interesting idea. [editline]28th July 2016[/editline] And i hope they dont just handwave the old Rocketeer away with the "he's missing" thing, that'd be kinda shitty. Make it a plot point or something. Or have him be brainwashed so its two equally matched Rocketeers fighting eachother or something, like Winter Soldier.

Thing is, if this was Sony, and they made a big deal of a black female lead above all else? Yeah maybe I'd be concerned this was a repeat of Ghostbusters, but this is Disney, and considering what they've done with Marvel and Star Wars, two movie series they could literally put 0 effort into at this point, and still make billions on, I'm excited more than worried in this case.

[QUOTE=Dwarfy77;50790821]Thing is, if this was Sony, and they made a big deal of a black female lead above all else? Yeah maybe I'd be concerned this was a repeat of Ghostbusters, but this is Disney, and considering what they've done with Marvel and Star Wars, two movie series they could literally put 0 effort into at this point, and still make billions on, I'm excited more than worried in this case.[/QUOTE] I agree with you on Marvel, but Star Wars TFA had that whole god mode Mary Sue brand of feminism going on. (I can do everything better than everyone else in the old canon because I'm a woman!) Time will tell about the rocketeerboot.

[QUOTE=Luni;50790087]african american female pilots in the 1950s...??[/QUOTE] I mean, there were military programs that offered women flight training during the Second World War, so its not really that big of a stretch.

[QUOTE=adamsz;50790897]I agree with you on Marvel, but Star Wars TFA had that whole god mode Mary Sue brand of feminism going on. (I can do everything better than everyone else in the old canon because I'm a woman!) Time will tell about the rocketeerboot.[/QUOTE] normally people would just attribute that to sub-par writing rather than an evil feminist agenda

[QUOTE=adamsz;50790897]I agree with you on Marvel, but Star Wars TFA had that whole god mode Mary Sue brand of feminism going on. (I can do everything better than everyone else in the old canon because I'm a woman!) Time will tell about the rocketeerboot.[/QUOTE] what how at all was rey being strong because she was a woman? kylo had been shown to be a twat beforehand and she was straight up told she was powerful. its not like star wars has every shyed away from overpowered characters

[QUOTE=AaronM202;50790683]I have no problem with diversity, i DO have a problem when diversity is only done for diversities sake or when people make a big deal out of it in an attempt to look progressive or pander. Like, i dont see the purpose in making a big deal out of "look its a black character SHE'S BLAAACK" okay i get it. I hope the movies good. [/QUOTE] I always thought this attitude was weird because who decides when casting a black actor is 'diversity for diversity's sake'? It's a bit like when people say, "I'm alright with gays but why have they got to be so in your face about it??"

[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50791025]I always thought this attitude was weird because who decides when casting a black actor is 'diversity for diversity's sake'? It's a bit like when people say, "I'm alright with gays but why have they got to be so in your face about it??"[/QUOTE] It depends. Situational. Context is all. Like, its obvious that introducing a black 15 year old girl MIT student who's better than Tony Stark at literally everything and will be replacing him as Iron Man (yeah a girl as Iron Man i dont know why) is pandering. All female Ghostbusters team being advertised based on the fact that its an all female team and if you think it looks bad you're a misogynist pig? Thats pretty clear. Etc. Luke Cage show or Black Panther movie? Or a movie where the hero or one of the hroes happens to be a black dude and its not made a big deal of? Nobody ever really complains because why would you, thats perfectly fine.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;50791057]It depends. Situational. Context is all. Like, its obvious that introducing a black 15 year old girl MIT student who's better than Tony Stark at literally everything and will be replacing him as Iron Man (yeah a girl as Iron Man i dont know why) is pandering. All female Ghostbusters team being advertised based on the fact that its an all female team and if you think it looks bad you're a misogynist pig? Thats pretty clear. Etc. Luke Cage show or Black Panther movie? Or a movie where the hero or one of the hroes happens to be a black dude and its not made a big deal of? Nobody ever really complains because why would you, thats perfectly fine.[/QUOTE] Well we're yet to see what this will be like. I imagine that they'll touch upon her being black and a woman and that creating barriers for her in the film, considering the time period and stuff, but this is unlikely to be a pure empowerment piece. Her race won't be the be all and end all of the character, but it will definitely play into her backstory (pure speculation on my part of course). I have no doubt the journalists will absolutely eat up a black female Rocketeer though, there's something that's quite enticing about a black female character taking on such a conventionally white male pulp hero role. I don't remember the original film being particularly good though? So this has the potential to be a considerable improvement.

Is she gonna fight commies in Hollywood? [editline]28th July 2016[/editline] The HUAC-ateer