• Canadian First Nations Chief with Band of 81 people was paid $1 million taxpayer Dollars last year.
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chief-s-1m-pay-not-reasonable-bernard-valcourt-says-1.2725449[/url] [QUOTE]Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt says the government will "look after the best interests of taxpayers," if band councils of First Nations don't. Valcourt made the comment in response to revelations the chief of a community with only 81 registered members made nearly $1 million last year in salary and bonuses. As chief of the Kwikwetiem First Nation, Ron Giesbrecht collected a salary of $84,800 and $16,574 in expenses. The real money for Giesbrecht came from his role as the band's economic development officer. Beyond a bump-up in pay, his [B]contract stipulated he was entitled to a bonus equivalent to 10 per cent of all economic activity he brought to the community. That evidently included a more than $8-million transfer from the B.C. government as part of a land deal.[/B] However, the minister also let it be known his government does not find the payments to Giesbrecht reasonable, and while he says he "trusts the membership at the band level will take care of the situation," he is also watching the issue carefully.[/QUOTE] Oppression.
wow one chief made a lot of money guess they aren't oppressed guys, now fuck off and let us get some more oil cunts
Corruption? I don't know what you are talking about. \:v:/
People are terrible at reading. His chief salary was $8400. For the entire year. His economic development officer salary was $80000. Part of that deal included a 10% cut of any new money he brought into the band, and he just so happened to sign an $8.5million land deal with the government. White Canadians are mad because a brown man got paid a lot of money for doing his job correctly. There was absolutely no corruption or shady dealings happening here. He made his people an absolute shitload of money and got rewarded for it as per his contract. Next we'll go find an aboriginal real estate agent and start getting angry at the fact he gets paid commission.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45567705]People are terrible at reading. [/QUOTE] How? You realize that this guys a chief right?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45567757]How? You realize that this guys a chief right?[/QUOTE] Yes, and the money he gets for being a chief is absurdly low. If your concern is too much of your taxmoney lining the pockets of aboriginal chiefs then this guy should be your hero because most all of his money he got by other means completely legally and without screwing anyone over.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45567141]Oppression.[/QUOTE] Are you being serious right now? You think because this guy made some money that there's no indigenous oppression...?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45567705] [B]Some [/B]white Canadians are mad because a brown man got paid a lot of money for doing his job correctly. There was absolutely no corruption or shady dealings happening here. He made his people an absolute shitload of money and got rewarded for it as per his contract. [/QUOTE] fixed that for you
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45567705]White Canadians are mad because a brown man got paid a lot of money for doing his job correctly.[/QUOTE] We're mad because that's $1 million of OUR tax dollars. I don't care what this guy did, he doesn't deserve such a ludicrous sum of tax payer money.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45567972]We're mad because that's $1 million of OUR tax dollars. I don't care what this guy did, he doesn't deserve such a ludicrous sum of tax payer money.[/QUOTE] there's way more important expenditures of money than this that you should be protesting.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45567985]there's way more important expenditures of money than this that you should be protesting.[/QUOTE] Good thing I don't vote conservative ever. That doesn't mean we should just let stuff like this slide. The amount of corruption we're seeing with the tribes is ridiculous and its in fact detrimental to first nations.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45567985]there's way more important expenditures of money than this that you should be protesting.[/QUOTE] I'm aware of that. I was just responding to Zeke who seems to think this sort of thing is a-okay and that we're somehow wrong or prejudiced to be upset by it.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45568016]Good thing I don't vote conservative ever. That doesn't mean we should just let stuff like this slide. The amount of corruption we're seeing with the tribes is ridiculous and its in fact detrimental to first nations.[/QUOTE] So the man was paid the amount of money he's contractually obliged to be, and that's corruption how?
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45567972]We're mad because that's $1 million of OUR tax dollars. I don't care what this guy did, he doesn't deserve such a ludicrous sum of tax payer money.[/QUOTE] who cares about $1 million of legitimately earned money, that's not only literally less than a drop in the bucket but you were also legally obliged to pay him that
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;45568114]who cares about $1 million of legitimately earned money, that's not only literally less than a drop in the bucket but you were also legally obliged to pay him that[/QUOTE] The point is that the contract shouldn't entitle him to such a sum in the first place. A bonus, yes, fine, but a million dollars? That's ridiculous and it's hard to believe any tax paying citizen would ever support such a thing. And "there are worse things money is being spent on" is not a reason to be okay with it.
Complaining about $1 million in taxpayer money being spent on something you don't like seems so quaint from an American perspective.
People flipping shit at Native Americans receiving money. They should make this a national Canadian past time complete with TV coverage considering it happens if they receive so much as an extra dollar from the government. It'll be set up like this: A man in a suit walks up to a chief and hands him a bunch of money in a cartooish sack(which is probably how a bunch of Canadians imagines it happens anyway) then the camera will pan over to a crowd on some bleachers shouting and booing. Then it will cut to a panel of judges who will score it based on the money received and viciousness of the people bitching. And all this will happen with a [I]luxurious[/I] reservation in the background because, as we all know, most Natives are living in the lap of luxury! I bet this would still have been in the news had he received even half of that and people would still have been screaming bloody murder.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45568521]The point is that the contract shouldn't entitle him to such a sum in the first place. A bonus, yes, fine, but a million dollars? That's ridiculous and it's hard to believe any tax paying citizen would ever support such a thing. And "there are worse things money is being spent on" is not a reason to be okay with it.[/QUOTE] yeah, how dare his contract be held up to standard! Shame on him not any of the people involved any further than this, just the one guy who got his contract honoured, it's all his fault. not the fault of people who create or allow these contracts to exist and not the grander shitty government we already deal with. sometimes you have to pick your battles and picking this one isn't going to get you anywhere.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45567972]We're mad because that's $1 million of OUR tax dollars. I don't care what this guy did, he doesn't deserve such a ludicrous sum of tax payer money.[/QUOTE] No, it was 8 million, and something tells me you wouldn't be as upset if the government had bought land from a white person. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what happened here. The government wanted some land that this band held administration over. They bought it (or signed a lease, I'm not exactly sure of the terms). Part of the chief's contract as Economic Development Officer (think of this as his second job), put in there by the people who hired him specifically to [i]promote brokering this kind of deal[/i], stipulated that he essentially get commission on any deals he is able to broker that bring economic prosperity to the band. This guy is basically a model of what non-aboriginal Canadians (and many aboriginal Canadians) want the chiefs to be. Because of his salary and bonuses from working as an economic development officer he only took a salary of $8400 for his position as chief. Can you think of many other people who would do that when they could easily demand much, much more?
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45567972]We're mad because that's $1 million of OUR tax dollars. I don't care what this guy did, he doesn't deserve such a ludicrous sum of tax payer money.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because it was totally fair stealing all the land the First Nations had here, and we [I]totally [/I]don't owe them anything. Seriously though, we owe them that money. It's the least we can do in terms of damage control for what we took from them to live here. Also: Don't do this shit: [QUOTE=Mitsudigi;45567972][B]We're[/B] mad because[/quote] You don't (and can't) speak for every person living in BC.
In Canada the long running joke is that the best looking building on the reserve is the Band Office. The second best is the Chief's house. Everything after that is just nasty 50 year old trailers with asbestos and mold. Even if the transaction was completely legit there's a very bad reputation for money going to the wrong places on reserves where more than half the residents don't even have indoor plumbing.
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