Anti same-sex marriage advocates: "we are on the right side of legal and moral history" - Polidicks

[t]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8954580-3x2-940x627.jpg[/t] [quote=ABC News]Opponents of same-sex marriage have officially launched the No campaign, saying they are on the "right side of legal and moral history". Key points: - New TV ad was played at the event and has been posted online - The new ad talks about "radical sex and gender programs" in schools - Senator Cory Bernardi's speech focused on freedom of speech Last night Australian Conservatives senator Cory Bernardi asked No supporters to be "vigilant" at an event launching the Coalition for Marriage's campaign at the Sydney Convention Centre. A new TV ad was played at the event and has been posted online, and this morning Sydneysiders could not miss "Vote No" sprawled across the sky. "We are under assault because we are on the right side of legal and moral history," Senator Bernardi told an audience of more than 1,000 people.[/quote] [quote]Senator Bernardi's speech focused on freedom of speech which he said would be affected by a change to the Marriage Act. "Many of you know that I am a champion of freedom," Senator Bernardi said. "Whilst I may struggle to love my enemies I always defend their right to freedom of speech. "If the state redefines marriage it also redefines how you can speak, think, advocate, and believe about marriage."[/quote] [quote]No advertisement targets 'radical programs' The Coalition of Marriage's new ad talks about "radical sex and gender programs" in schools [b]and does not mention the issue of marriage.[/b][/quote] [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-17/same-sex-marriage-survey-no-campaign-launched/8954368[/url]

I heard the same arguments in the US over the last ten years and the anti-equal-rights crowd lost there, so I can't wait for history to repeat itself. Denying some of your population the same benefits as the rest of the population isn't the right side of moral or legal anything.

Cory Bernardi is such a scumbag. The details of the bill that would be put to parliament haven't even been released. How he can say its a matter of freedom of speech without anything to base it on is disgusting.

No guys, don't you get it, they're on the [I]right[/I] side, not the [I]left[/I].

I saw someone post a video about this on Facebook yesterday, it was something where a woman who was the child of a lesbian couple opposed gay marriage because she "wondered why she didn't have a father [...] and how it made [her] feel left out in school" and "[her] parents weren't great" and she "felt like a member of an oppressed class because [she] can't openly oppose it". It started off sounding like [I]maybe[/I] she was going to say something of merit or something we haven't heard a million times in the states about THE GAYS R UNNATUREL but it ended up being stupid.

Opposing same sex marriage on the grounds of "its not natural" is like opposing the consumption of meat because it's cruel to animals, or opposing the vaccination of kids because it might have side effects. ... oh wait...

More importantly, Cory Bernardi also accidentally walked into frame of a Vote Yes photoshoot and the resulting photo shows him cowering in fear of the raw homosexuality on display. [t]https://i.imgur.com/DGvKZd0.png[/t]

Maybe there should be a campaign to mail history books to these people so they can read about every other time a bunch of bigots tried to withhold basic rights from a group of people and claimed that they'd be on the right side of history.

[QUOTE=Reds;52689195]Maybe there should be a campaign to mail history books to these people so they can read about every other time a bunch of bigots tried to withhold basic rights from a group of people and claimed that they'd be on the right side of history.[/QUOTE] Most people who claim to be on the right side of history consider "History" to be a collection of posts on facebook about some things some people said up to 50 years ago. Hand them a book and they'll tell you it's all fake, or just not read it.

When is the vote taking place for Australia to legalize same-sex marriage? I want to follow it when it happens

[QUOTE=Retinazer;52689202]When is the vote taking place for Australia to legalize same-sex marriage? I want to follow it when it happens[/QUOTE] Ballot papers have already been mailed out to voters. Some of us have already received them, marked them, and sent them back. Everyone should receive theirs before the end of the month. The result will be declared in November.

[QUOTE=Retinazer;52689202]When is the vote taking place for Australia to legalize same-sex marriage? I want to follow it when it happens[/QUOTE] It's happening now. The voting papers are being mailed out currently. Some people have already filled them out and handed them back, others like me have yet to receive them.

Ah, thanks to both of you for the reply. Guess the only thing left is to wait and hope for the best. Good Luck Australia.

This reminds me of that absurd fucking advert I saw recently where it essentially says that allowing marriage equality will mean people will be "forced to marry gay people". Like, this is kindergarten level moral reasoning. But the sad fact is that there [I]are[/I] people who will buy into this bullshit and will slap a big fat fucking "No" on a vote that should be a forgone conclusion. Just the other day I was reading about somebody in a Facebook group I'm part of had somebody make a fucking cross symbol at them because they had the audacity to wear [I]rainbow print shoes.[/I] It was followed by a link to an article titled "They get to vote." talking about LGBTQ people's expiriences with bigotry in the past, ranging from name-calling and bullying to straight up attempted murder. Reminding us all that these hateful fucks are allowed a say in an issue that [I]shouldn't even be a fucking issue.[/I] Cory Bernardi should be convicted of hate speech at this point. There is no justifiable reason for this sort of behaviour.

They're fuckwits but I'm still impressed that someone can write that neatly with a plane.

[QUOTE=Retinazer;52689211]Ah, thanks to both of you for the reply. Guess the only thing left is to wait and hope for the best. Good Luck Australia.[/QUOTE] It's pretty much guaranteed. It has something like 70% support.

[QUOTE=download;52689235]It's pretty much guaranteed. It has something like 70% support.[/QUOTE] I'm not so sure. It being a non-compulsory postal vote is the best case for the no side and there's a number of people who support gay marriage abstaining from voting because they disagree with the method which seems like a really shitty hill to die on. And then even if it makes it to parliament, we have to hope the majority of MPs stick to the party lines and obey the yes vote.

[QUOTE]- The new ad talks about "radical sex and gender programs" in schools - Senator Cory Bernardi's speech focused on freedom of speech[/QUOTE] What the fuck does this have to do with two loving people marrying each other? Are the right so out of ideas they have to resort to topics that won't be impacted if SSM passes? [editline]17th September 2017[/editline] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8INW18E-Aw[/media] What the fuck is this shit

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52689252]What the fuck does this have to do with two loving people marrying each other? Are the right so out of ideas they have to resort to topics that won't be impacted if SSM passes?[/QUOTE] Well, yeah. Those are pretty much the only arguments against SSM, baseless slippery slope fallacies, appeals to emotion and religion.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52689252]What the fuck does this have to do with two loving people marrying each other? Are the right so out of ideas they have to resort to topics that won't be impacted if SSM passes?[/QUOTE] Can't win if you care about the facts? Disregard them! This is also what the opposition to same-sex marriage in the US tried. It failed, too.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52689252]What the fuck does this have to do with two loving people marrying each other? Are the right so out of ideas they have to resort to topics that won't be impacted if SSM passes?[/QUOTE] Well I mean, the No campaign's slogan is 'It's ok to vote no', so it's not like there's really much of a platform for their campaign.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52689252]What the fuck does this have to do with two loving people marrying each other? Are the right so out of ideas they have to resort to topics that won't be impacted if SSM passes? [editline]17th September 2017[/editline] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8INW18E-Aw[/media] What the fuck is this shit[/QUOTE] who the fuck is D.Wyld, and why doesnt s/he have the balls to put his/her full name in the "authorised by" part.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52689258]Can't win if you care about the facts? Disregard them! This is also what the opposition to same-sex marriage in the US tried. It failed, too.[/QUOTE] It's getting ridiculous. There isn't a single logical argument to be against SSM.

[QUOTE=Redfiend;52689207]It's happening now. The voting papers are being mailed out currently. Some people have already filled them out and handed them back, others like me have yet to receive them.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BF;52689206]Ballot papers have already been mailed out to voters. Some of us have already received them, marked them, and sent them back. Everyone should receive theirs before the end of the month. The result will be declared in November.[/QUOTE] Uhm, the paper I was sent was for a Survey, not for a vote. [editline]17th September 2017[/editline] Even says it on the envelope. "Your Australian Marriage Law Postal [b]Survey[/b] inside."

Ahh, the loving and respectful history of selling princesses to horny princes in order to further political aims of feudal kings.

[QUOTE=Xonax;52689402]Uhm, the paper I was sent was for a Survey, not for a vote. [editline]17th September 2017[/editline] Even says it on the envelope. "Your Australian Marriage Law Postal [b]Survey[/b] inside."[/QUOTE] That's what the plebiscite is. A non-binding survey on whether one group should have the same rights as the rest of us. And it cost $120m.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;52689444]That's what the plebiscite is. A non-binding survey on whether one group should have the same rights as the rest of us. [B]And it cost $120m.[/B][/QUOTE] It's almost as if you could save $110m by simply requiring people to register their vote online.

Do these Australian no campaigners know that these votes have been successfully passed all over the world without society crumbling?

[QUOTE=Scot;52689460]Do these Australian no campaigners know that these votes have been successfully passed all over the world without society crumbling?[/QUOTE] I think a lot of them live in their own reality which it has.

even my parents who are generally right (dont like muslims, support liberals, hate labour and greens) think that they should just fucken make it legal already.