• Fighter jet and civilian jet crash in Germany.
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[IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75759000/jpg/_75759010_dud2py8r.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]A military-chartered Learjet plane has crashed in western Germany after a mid-air collision with a German air force Eurofighter jet. The Learjet came down in woodland near the town of Olsberg, killing one person and leaving another feared dead. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27979964"]Source[/URL] It is awful.
How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.
[QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] The learjet participated in the exercise.
[QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] Airspace is a bit tigher then you'd think. And there's always possibility of human error.
Crazy, I literally just landed here like an hour ago.
[QUOTE=DoctorRictofen;45198927]Crazy, I literally just landed here like an hour ago.[/QUOTE] As did thousands of other people all around the world. What's so crazy about this? I don't think people come home in the evening, go watch the news and see a report about a car accident and go "Wow, thats crazy, I just arrived at home after driving my own car"
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45198854]Airspace is a bit tigher then you'd think. And there's always possibility of human error.[/QUOTE] The military also conduct high risk exercises for the real thing. Flying in a combat zone can be pretty cramped.
"Thank you for flying Lufthansa"
[QUOTE=Impact1986;45198958]As did thousands of other people all around the world. What's so crazy about this? I don't think people come home in the evening, go watch the news and see a report about a car accident and go "Wow, thats crazy, I just arrived at home after driving my own car"[/QUOTE] If you've just been in situation X, it's easier to imagine being in a situation similar to X because you still got fresh and detailed impressions. That's why he's empathizing more strongly and has a stronger feeling of "that easily could have been me". The more mundane situation X, the less likely your brain bothered to remember all the details of the latest situation X, which lessens the effect. So there are people that would empathize more strongly with a car crash victim just after having driven a car themselves, but for most people using a car it's become so routine it barely leaves a memorable moment anymore. I thought this was common knowledge.
Well from my watching of many many Air Crash Investigation episodes, it'd be safe to assume that the fighter was at fault given if the Learjet was in contact with air traffic control. [editline]24th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] The technology you refer to like TCAS only works if the other plane also has a TCAS transponder (that is on).
[QUOTE=Impact1986;45198958]As did thousands of other people all around the world. What's so crazy about this? I don't think people come home in the evening, go watch the news and see a report about a car accident and go "Wow, thats crazy, I just arrived at home after driving my own car"[/QUOTE] I've arrived home, and gone "That's crazy, I was driving on that very stretch of road 25mins ago!"
Welp, that's a fairly close to my hometown. more pics: [t]http://cdn3.spiegel.de/images/image-713522-galleryV9-eyne.jpg[/t][t]http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-713531-galleryV9-dixv.jpg[/t][t]http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-713450-galleryV9-xmvb.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=angelangel;45199752]Well from my watching of many many Air Crash Investigation episodes, it'd be safe to assume that the fighter was at fault given if the Learjet was in contact with air traffic control. [editline]24th June 2014[/editline] The technology you refer to like TCAS only works if the other plane also has a TCAS transponder (that is on).[/QUOTE] And with aircraft that aren't ignoring it or have it turned off, as you might if you're in a lear jet and flying in close proximity to a fighter jet during training exercises. Not all fighter jets have TCAS, though
[QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] ATC keeps the planes about a mile away from each other by plotting courses for them. If that fails, it's entirely up to the pilots.
[QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] Says they were both taking part in an exercise, I would hazard a guess that it was some kind of intercept training. In which case the stuff to avoid this sort of incident might be a bit of a hindrance. [editline]24th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=angelangel;45199752]Well from my watching of many many Air Crash Investigation episodes, it'd be safe to assume that the fighter was at fault given if the Learjet was in contact with air traffic control.[/QUOTE] They were probably both under military control, given that it was an exercise.
Title is misleading, sounds like a fighter crashed into a commercial airline, which is not at all what happened.
[QUOTE=nutcake;45198740]How does something like this even happen? Planes have all sorts of technology to avoid this.[/QUOTE] atc plot courses for planes to evade each other. radar tells you where other planes are. there's no sort of fool-proof parking sensor system that auto-avoids planes for you regardless the article says they were participating in some sort of exercise together so i assume they were deliberately close for some sort of training, not obeying usual atc distance guidelines
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