D.C. and Maryland to sue President Trump, alleging breach of constitutional oath
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Attorneys general for the District of Columbia and the state of Maryland say they will sue President Trump on Monday, alleging that he has violated anti-corruption clauses in the Constitution by accepting millions in payments and benefits from foreign governments since moving into the White House.
The lawsuit, the first of its kind brought by government entities, centers on the fact that Trump chose to retain ownership of his company when he became president. Trump said in January that he was shifting his business assets into a trust managed by his sons to eliminate potential conflicts of interests.[/QUOTE]
oh [expletive deleted]!
[editline]12th June 2017[/editline]
I'd also like to just highlight that the justice department argues that even if you could sue trump like this, you have to have standing even though its argued it is a breech of the constitution, something that means every american citizen would have grounds to challenge also they argue that its frivolous because nobody ever thought to do this before so clearly its legal to do this having never been brought to the court
it seems like everybody in the justice department has lost their minds
Can you even do this?
I was under the impression that you can't sue a government official directly for misconduct, you have to sue the US govt.
Could it finally be that the Big Orange is finally held accountable for the things he does?
At least there's no end to the provable crimes and reasons that make him unfit for office. Even if the Russian interference investigation gets dragged out for years, the money he's been steadily funneling into his private businesses alone while in office should be enough to get rid of him. He deserves prison, but any punishment would be better right now than the free reign to do whatever the hell he likes he seems to be enjoying.
My home state doing good work.
[QUOTE=unrezt;52346374]Can you even do this?
I was under the impression that you can't sue a government official directly for misconduct, you have to sue the US govt.[/QUOTE]
Even if nothing at all comes of it, I like to think of it as building up more of a "portfolio" against him if eventually it does come to a head in the future.
MD represent. I must say I'm a little surprised because Trump signs pretty much rule the part of MD I'm in and I've got co-workers that won't stop praising every move he makes, this helps me put more faith back in my state.
[QUOTE=unrezt;52346374]Can you even do this?
I was under the impression that you can't sue a government official directly for misconduct, you have to sue the US govt.[/QUOTE]
half the opinions ive read say you can't sue the president but then half say that you can because this is a violation of the constitution and if you can't sue him for his private public relation then how would you even enforce it?
When it's his fault:
"Shouldn't be held accountable, it's the Senate/House/Representative's fault"
When it's a US achievement:
"See, told you Trump did his job after we gave him a chance after 5 months with a 100% controlled Congress! Obama/Hillary's emails couldn't do that!"
Utterly pathetic.
[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;52346377]Could it finally be that the Big Orange is finally held accountable for the things he does?
At least there's no end to the provable crimes and reasons that make him unfit for office. Even if the Russian interference investigation gets dragged out for years, the money he's been steadily funneling into his private businesses alone while in office should be enough to get rid of him. He deserves prison, but any punishment would be better right now than the free reign to do whatever the hell he likes he seems to be enjoying.[/QUOTE]
The Supreme Court has ruled that the president has absolute Immunity from civil lawsuits seeking damages for presidential actions. However, the Court ruled in Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681, 117 S.Ct. 1636, 137 L.Ed.2d 945 (1997), that a sitting president does not have presidential immunity from suit over conduct unrelated to his official duties. The holding came in a civil suit brought by Paula Corbin Jones against President Clinton. Jones's suit was based on conduct alleged to have occurred while Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Clinton had sought to postpone the lawsuit until after he left office.
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They're suing him for stuff directly related to his role as a president. He has immunity. That's why the instrument of impeachment exists.
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[QUOTE=Sableye;52347159]half the opinions ive read say you can't sue the president but then half say that you can because this is a violation of the constitution and if you can't sue him for his private public relation then how would you even enforce it?[/QUOTE]
Again that's what the instrument of impeachment is for.
[QUOTE=Kagu;52347990]When it's his fault:
"Shouldn't be held accountable, it's the Senate/House/Representative's fault"
When it's a US achievement:
"See, told you Trump did his job after we gave him a chance after 5 months with a 100% controlled Congress! Obama/Hillary's emails couldn't do that!"
Utterly pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Living with a narcissist for most of my life...this is exactly how they operate.
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