• Rumor: Intel Skylake CPU launch schedule leaked by benchlife.info, i5-6600K and i7-6700K desktop CPU
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[url]http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/05/21/intel-corporations-skylake-launch-schedule-reveale.aspx[/url] [quote=Motley Fool]Website BenchLife recently leaked the following table showing the launch schedule for Intel's upcoming 14-nanometer Skylake processors for PCs and 2-in-1 convertible devices: [img]http://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/168410/intel-skylake-schedule_large.jpg[/img] Following the soap opera that has been the rollout of Intel's Broadwell family of processors, this table -- assuming it is accurate -- should allow Intel investors to breathe a sigh of relief. A busy September for desktops and notebooks [B]From August to September, Intel will seemingly roll out all of its Skylake-S processors for traditional desktops,[/B] bringing a sorely needed refresh to the Haswell processors that Intel has been selling for the last two years.[/quote] [url]http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015052101_Launch_schedule_of_Intel_Skylake_processors.html[/url] [quote=CPU-World]Intel Skylake microarchitecture will be launched in mid-August at the Intel Development Forum in San Francisco, Benchlife.info reported. The Benchlife.info webiste was first to publish details of Skylake desktop CPUs back in April, and now they revealed anticipated launch dates and model numbers of Skylake CPUs for different market segments. Most of new models will be available in September 2015. Intel also plans to release faster versions of mobile Skylake chips in October 2015 - January 2016 time frame. "Skylake-S" lineup of desktop processors will consist of 10 models, including unlocked Core i5-6600K and i7-6700K SKUs, mainstream Core i5-6400, i5-6500, i5-6600 and i7-6700, as well as low power Core i5-6400T, i5-6500T, i5-6600T and i7-6700T. The unlocked products may launch as early as August, the remaining mainstream and low-power SKUs will be available in September. All "Skylake-S" CPUs will be compatible with socket LGA1151.[/quote]
I can already feel my wallet burning, the same kind of burning I feel during every steam summer sale.
The question is how far will these "unlocked" models be able to be pushed? I mean look at the Devil's Canyon models' practical overclockability compared to the hype....
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47775916]The question is how far will these "unlocked" models be able to be pushed? I mean look at the Devil's Canyon models' practical overclockability compared to the hype....[/QUOTE] As the die shrinks, it generally becomes harder to overclock. The shitty glue idea in ivy and onward also leads to shit overclocks due to internal temp issues. Delidding helps with that, though.
I guess it's time to start saving with the R9 300 series coming and now this.
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When will AMD catch up? I am sick of Intel's monopoly and greedy business tactics (most notably locking their cheaper CPU's multipliers).
[QUOTE=seano12;47776400]When will AMD catch up? I am sick of Intel's monopoly and greedy business tactics (most notably locking their cheaper CPU's multipliers).[/QUOTE] Probably never, unfortunately. Instead they're focusing on APUs and GPUs since their APUs are okay-ish for a cheap PC build and their upcoming GPUs apparently blow Nvidia out of the water since they use a new kind of memory.
[QUOTE=Coffee;47776421]Probably never, unfortunately. Instead they're focusing on APUs and GPUs since their APUs are okay-ish for a cheap PC build and their upcoming GPUs apparently blow Nvidia out of the water since they use a new kind of memory.[/QUOTE] Zen is looking really promising, but it wont be out till 2016 unfortunately.
[QUOTE=seano12;47776400]When will AMD catch up? I am sick of Intel's monopoly and greedy business tactics (most notably locking their cheaper CPU's multipliers).[/QUOTE] I remember when the Athlon 64 was literally _The_ best CPU on the market, and Intel was trying to catch up with them... And when the ATi Radeon 9800 was also leaps and bounds better than anything Nvidia could muster at the time! Those were the days...
[QUOTE=Weirdness;47776542]Zen is looking really promising, but it wont be out till 2016 unfortunately.[/QUOTE] This is great to hear. I can't wait to camp outside my local Fry's upon Zen's release. [editline]21st May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47776585] And when the ATi Radeon 9800 was also leaps and bounds better than anything Nvidia could muster at the time! Those were the days...[/QUOTE] I had that. Good times playing CoD 2 at high fps.
[QUOTE=Weirdness;47776542]Zen is looking really promising, but it wont be out till 2016 unfortunately.[/QUOTE] Hopefully. There are really no details at all outside of "leaks" from WCCF. The complete architecture changes every time. I think the last two leaks it went from 4 logical processors per module to complete full cores.
in terms of what this is going to do for mobile hardware, this should be pretty cool. i'm still good with my 4670k though. maybe in 2017, intel.
[QUOTE=Coffee;47776421]Probably never, unfortunately. Instead they're focusing on APUs and GPUs since their APUs are okay-ish for a cheap PC build and their upcoming GPUs apparently blow Nvidia out of the water since they use a new kind of memory.[/QUOTE] Fuuuck and I just bought a gtx 980 :suicide:
[QUOTE=nomad1;47777661]Fuuuck and I just bought a gtx 980 :suicide:[/QUOTE] Who's to say they'll blow the Nvidia cards out of the water (though I hope they're really great cards of course), it's pure speculation. There will always be something better on the horiszon, there's no completely right time to upgrade.
[QUOTE=nomad1;47777661]Fuuuck and I just bought a gtx 980 :suicide:[/QUOTE] Should've maybe gone for a cheaper card then waited for 980 Ti
[QUOTE=Haskell;47775813]I can already feel my wallet burning, the same kind of burning I feel during every steam summer sale.[/QUOTE] If you have a 2500 or better, there's still probably very little reason to upgrade if you aren't doing some very specific tasks. Intel's recent generations have been incremental horsepower improvements, and mostly power consumption improvements. In fact, if you have a 'golden' 2500k running at 5GHz (which while not common, isn't exactly rare), chances are you will have a hard time finding a haswell chip that can beat it by more than a couple % in terms of real world performance. As Levlog put it, recent generations are nowhere near as overclockable, both for technical, and materials reasons.
Does this mean 1151 is going to be 1150's successor? If so I have to buy a motherboard for my 4770k sitting around before they disappear.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47776123]As the die shrinks, it generally becomes harder to overclock. The shitty glue idea in ivy and onward also leads to shit overclocks due to internal temp issues. Delidding helps with that, though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but the newer Haswell chips are soldered to the heatsink, not glued. You can't delid them anymore
[QUOTE=Coffee;47776421]Probably never, unfortunately. [/QUOTE] Especially if AMD neglects R&D like they are currently doing. [url]http://wccftech.com/amd-budget-lowest-10-years/[/url]
[QUOTE=seano12;47776400]When will AMD catch up? I am sick of Intel's monopoly and greedy business tactics (most notably locking their cheaper CPU's multipliers).[/QUOTE] I think it would be great if AMD released a direct competitor to the i5 and i7. Mostly great cause the competition would drive prices down.
[QUOTE=nomad1;47777661]Fuuuck and I just bought a gtx 980 :suicide:[/QUOTE] Youre forgetting nvidia's drivers that make my gpu (670) still run almost everything on max with 60fps.
[QUOTE=rilez;47780776]Yeah, but the newer Haswell chips are soldered to the heatsink, not glued. You can't delid them anymore[/QUOTE] Which is fine because solder conducts the heat far better than the shitty glue they used on ivy/old haswells. Part of what made the 2500k such an insanely good overclocking processor was the fact that the solder conducted heat away, so the chips weren't really limited by temperature. [editline]22nd May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;47780980]I think it would be great if AMD released a direct competitor to the i5 and i7. Mostly great cause the competition would drive prices down.[/QUOTE] As soon as AMD releases anything close to the single thread performance of intels chips, intel is just going to switch back and put a lot more R&D budget into performance instead of power consumption. Their architecture is several iterations behind intel's (die sizes alone are 2 or 3 full generations behind intel which means they suck up as much as 2 or 2.5 times the wattage for even roughly equivalent performance) AMD simply cannot compete right now without playing several generations of catchup.
[QUOTE=rilez;47780776]Yeah, but the newer Haswell chips are soldered to the heatsink, not glued. You can't delid them anymore[/QUOTE] You mean Haswell refresh? Like the 4790k? They are not soldered, they are glued. The only Haswell chips that are soldered are Haswell-E chips on the X99 chipset. Intel improved the TIM for them, but that wasn't the real problem. You still can delid Haswell refresh and it has the same effects.
[QUOTE=Coffee;47776421]Probably never, unfortunately. Instead they're focusing on APUs and GPUs since their APUs are okay-ish for a cheap PC build and their upcoming GPUs apparently blow Nvidia out of the water since they use a new kind of memory.[/QUOTE] AMD did not create HBM (High Bandwidth Memory) themselves and Nvidia is going to have the same tech with their next GPU's but it'll be cheaper and more mature. AMD is rushing to market to be first with HBM, and one of the limitations because of that will be a max VRAM of 4GB for the new cards when VRAM capacities are becoming a real issue, especially with newer games and higher resolutions. It's short term, really.
what happened to broadwell
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;47782846]what happened to broadwell[/QUOTE] Broadwell ended up being a mobile/oem only release. The only desktop Broadwell parts have shipped via OEM systems.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;47782149]AMD did not create HBM (High Bandwidth Memory) themselves and Nvidia is going to have the same tech with their next GPU's but it'll be cheaper and more mature. AMD is rushing to market to be first with HBM, and one of the limitations because of that will be a max VRAM of 4GB for the new cards when VRAM capacities are becoming a real issue, especially with newer games and higher resolutions. It's short term, really.[/QUOTE] 4GB is more than enough you nutcase. For years. The GTX 580 only has 1.5 gb and still runs perfectly today
[QUOTE=Big Johnson;47783564]4GB is more than enough you nutcase. For years. The GTX 580 only has 1.5 gb and still runs perfectly today[/QUOTE] I routinely hit well over 2 with modded skyrim. Shadow of Mordor cannot use the ultra texture pack with 2GB. I don't think I've ever gone much over 3.5GB, but vram is becoming a major bottleneck for premium texture quality. It's only going to get worse too now that studios are completely terminating development for the PS3 and 360. PC requirements always balloon with a new console generation.
Gonna need speeds on them cores. I have a 5820k and it's not exactly upgrade time but I could always use m[I]ORE [B]SP[U]EED[/U][/B][/I]
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