• France's Marine Le Pen seen in Trump Tower: Does not confirm or deny meeting with Trump
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[t]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1F12/production/_93545970_marine.jpg[/t] [quote]France's far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen has been seen visiting Trump Tower in New York. She declined to say whether she was there to see President-elect Donald Trump but the Trump team said there would be "no meetings". Ms Le Pen is currently one of the top candidates for the first round of voting in April, opinion polls suggest. The National Front leader has called Mr Trump's election "an additional stone in the building of a new world". Ms Le Pen was seen with three men in the cafe. Agence France-Presse identified one as her partner, Louis Aliot, the National Front's (FN) vice-president. Ms Le Pen also declined to answer when asked whether her visit was personal or professional. But when asked if she would speak to pool journalists later, one of her associates said "OK". Trump team spokesperson Hope Hicks told reporters: "She is not meeting with anyone from our team." Sean Spicer, who will be Mr Trump's press secretary, re-tweeted a post by CNN's Noah Gray that Ms Le Pen would not be meeting Mr Trump or anyone from the transition team, adding "Trump Tower is open to the Public". Ms Le Pen's campaign manager had earlier said she would not be meeting Mr Trump on her visit to New York. Ms Le Pen has herself referred to her trip as "private." [/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38600560[/url]
Yeah, not suspicious at all. She's only openly funded by Russia.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51674644]Yeah, not suspicious at all. She's only openly funded by Russia.[/QUOTE] so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] Unleashing its potential to destroy the EU.
[quote] The National Front leader has called Mr Trump's election "an additional stone in the building of a new world". [/quote] sinister shit mate
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] he plans to steal the world's largest diamond
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] Endless supply of fresh baguettes.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] he [i]really[/i] likes escargot
Why does she refuse to say yes or no? Don't get me wrong, I hate the both of them, but the man is the next president of the USA so seeing him is kind of important.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;51674761]Why does she refuse to say yes or no? Don't get me wrong, I hate the both of them, but the man is the next president of the USA so seeing him is kind of important.[/QUOTE] Trump has [I]abysmal[/I] approval ratings in (continental) Europe, far worse than in the US. Meeting with him before he becomes president would cast a pretty bad light on just about any politician here. [editline]edit[/editline] It's also possible she [I]tried[/I] to meet him but didn't, which would reflect badly on her status regarding how important she's considered.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] To weaken the EU from the inside
[QUOTE=Tamschi;51674817]Trump has [I]abysmal[/I] approval ratings in (continental) Europe, far worse than in the US. Meeting with him before he becomes president would cast a pretty bad light on just about any politician here.[/QUOTE] Oh yes he is hated here too, at least by many. I just think that it is prudent to see the future leader (fuckkkk) of the world's most powerful country.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;51674869]Oh yes he is hated here too, at least by many. I just think that it is prudent to see the future leader (fuckkkk) of the world's most powerful country.[/QUOTE] It probably could wait the five days until he actually has the job. In any case, considering Le Pen speaks favourably of trump that's probably not the issue. See my edit above for another possibility.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;51674817]Trump has [I]abysmal[/I] approval ratings in (continental) Europe, far worse than in the US. Meeting with him before he becomes president would cast a pretty bad light on just about any politician here.[/QUOTE] Not really, Trump has his staunch supporters here. The typical profile is that they like nationalism and Russia and dislike EU and immigration. Le Pen's supporters fit into that profile nicely. And while still a minority, they are a very substantial one.
[QUOTE=Vlevs;51674918]Not really, Trump has his staunch supporters here. The typical profile is that they like nationalism and Russia and dislike EU and immigration. Le Pen's supporters fit into that profile nicely. And while still a minority, they are a very substantial one.[/QUOTE] Wait why would Finn nationalists like Russia? That's kind of absurd.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51674925]Wait why would Finn nationalists like Russia? That's kind of absurd.[/QUOTE] They're idiots too busy fighting "the establishment" to realize they're merely supporting another.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51674925]Wait why would Finn nationalists like Russia? That's kind of absurd.[/QUOTE] Nationalists aren't the brightest bunch. But generally they love other nationalist nations because "hurr durr fuck the liberal elite x for x-ers!!!" Which is hilarious because Russia as a nationalist nation sure loves trying to involve itself in other nations. And nationalists are so caught up trying to ensure "purity" within their own nation that they are pretty susceptible to the shit Russia pulls.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51674671]so she's a Russian puppet? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] what interest does Putin have in France[/QUOTE] All these far-right nationalism movements springing up in Europe seem to ultimately get their allowance from daddy Vladimir, and Le Pen is no exception. And now she's at Trump fucking Tower days before President Mancheetoian Candidate takes office.
How delusional do you have to be to believe that all of these nationalist/anti-establishment movements are just a Russian conspiracy? I guess the explanation of immigration laws, recession, and reaction to globalization is just too hard to comprehend why these people have national support.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675733]How delusional do you have to be to believe that all of these nationalist/anti-establishment movements are just a Russian conspiracy? I guess the explanation of immigration laws, recession, and reaction to globalization is just too hard to comprehend why these people have national support.[/QUOTE] these have national support because of the reasons you listed, and russia is exploiting it for their own gain
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675733]How delusional do you have to be to believe that all of these nationalist/anti-establishment movements are just a Russian conspiracy? I guess the explanation of immigration laws, recession, and reaction to globalization is just too hard to comprehend why these people have national support.[/QUOTE] How delusional do you have to be to completely ignore the fact that Le Pen and other nationalistic movements are being openly funded by Russia But no, it doesn't fit your agenda so ergo it doesn't exist for you
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675733]How delusional do you have to be to believe that all of these nationalist/anti-establishment movements are just a Russian conspiracy? I guess the explanation of immigration laws, recession, and reaction to globalization is just too hard to comprehend why these people have national support.[/QUOTE] It's not like Trump's ever pushed forward conspiracy theories about the President's ineligibility. Now the shoe's on the other foot and somehow it's sheeple time?
[QUOTE=Judas;51675740]these have national support because of the reasons you listed, and russia is exploiting it for their own gain[/QUOTE] That I don't disgree with. Just don't like the idea that people want to soley see this as a Russian conspiracy. [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=joshuadim;51675743]How delusional do you have to be to completely ignore the fact that Le Pen and other nationalistic movements are being openly funded by Russia But no, it doesn't fit your agenda so ergo it doesn't exist for you[/QUOTE] Oh no, I am aware of the loan she took from the Moscow-based bank. But at the end of the day to get swaths of people to vote for you, you have to have a platform that is somewhat tantalizing unless were suggesting they just paid off all her voters.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675806]But at the end of the day to get swaths of people to vote for you, you have to have a platform that is somewhat tantalizing unless were suggesting they just paid off all her voters.[/QUOTE] Do you not know what populism is? [editline]15th January 2017[/editline] Isn't the fact there is a conflict of interest when it comes to Russia for an aspiring President of the Republic concerning in the slightest to you?
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675806] But at the end of the day to get swaths of people to vote for you, you have to have a platform that is somewhat tantalizing unless were suggesting they just paid off all her voters.[/QUOTE] Let me direct you towards the dude who's gonna be president of the US in a few days, he knows a few things on tantalizing his followers. Or swindling people, however you wanna call it.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51675733]How delusional do you have to be to believe that all of these nationalist/anti-establishment movements are just a Russian conspiracy? I guess the explanation of immigration laws, recession, and reaction to globalization is just too hard to comprehend why these people have national support.[/QUOTE] It may be a 'conspiracy' but following the money has usually been a pretty safe bet when it comes to politics. [URL="https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-22/le-pen-struggling-to-fund-french-race-after-russian-backer-fails"]Le Pen of France searches for new Russian funding after losing old Russian funding.[/URL] [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/world/europe/czech-republic-russia-milos-zeman.html"]Miloš Zeman of the Czech Republic gets massive court fine paid for by a Russian company.[/URL] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/meet-the-pro-russian-anti-muslim-european-leader-who-was-just-invited-to-trumpswhite-house/2017/01/11/18c14536-d808-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html"]Bonus: He's invited to meet with Trump.[/URL] [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/world/europe/austrias-far-right-signs-a-cooperation-pact-with-putins-party.html"]Heinz-Christian Strache in Austria signs cooperation pact with Russia.[/URL] And then there's Trump. And they all share almost identical views: anti-Muslim, anti-EU/anti-NATO/anti-UN, pro-Russia, on good terms with Putin himself, extremely socially conservative, expouse populism, attack the media...
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51674644]Yeah, not suspicious at all. She's only openly funded by Russia.[/QUOTE] If Trump and co. don't fuck the world up permanently with their shitty politics we're gonna get some awesome spy thrillers set during this time period.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51675860]Do you not know what populism is?[/quote] Is that a a belief in population or something. /s [quote] Isn't the fact there is a conflict of interest when it comes to Russia for an aspiring President of the Republic concerning in the slightest to you?[/QUOTE] I think I have stated several times at this point that I am all for people investigating the relationship between Putin and Trump. And that my disposition is to want to cooperate with Russia on several foreign affairs that I believe are bigger problems, hence why I am not joining the chorus on every speculative news piece between them. So far the intelligence/evidence that has been verified on this topic is quite lacking to show that a conflict of interest exists where Putin is some kind of puppet-master.
Outside the realm of immigration, is there anything far-right parties in Europe have going for them?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51675989]Outside the realm of immigration, is there anything far-right parties in Europe have going for them?[/QUOTE] A captive alt-right media machine and extremely wealthy foreign backers?
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