replacing windows vista with Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal; pro's and con's?
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I have an old dell which, unfortunately, shipped with vista rather than 7. i have dual booted ubuntu 11.10 and i absolubtly love the environment and interface, but i have one problem, and that problem is games.
i play a lot a of steam games, including TF2, CS:S, DOD:S ect. as well as a couple of other games including starcraft 2, minecraft, and league of legends.
i have heard that you can use wine to run such games, but i want to know a little of your personal experiance with playing such games on ubuntu, and if it is worth the hassle of me completely replacing vista with ubuntu.
thoughts?
also, i would just like your general opinions on vista vs NN
I don't know much about wine, but the specs of your PC would be a nice start, and also that the latest version of Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelelot is out.
[QUOTE=JimJam707;32782119]I don't know much about wine, but the specs of your PC would be a nice start, and also that the latest version of Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelelot is out.[/QUOTE]
right, yeah pc specs :L brain fart
intel pentium dual core @2.00 GHZ
4.5GB DDR2 RAM
120gb HDD
ATI Mobility RADOEN HD 3400 series
also, i double checked and i have 11.10 :L not my day for stupidity. OP shall be corrected
Source games usually run well enough in wine. It all depends on your setup. It's not too big of a hassle really. You can always try with one game. If it works the others should.
You might have problems with your GPU. I'm not too experienced with ATI GPUs (I have been avoiding them, really.) I do know that their propriatary drivers can easily be a major pain in the ass. Also, I'm pretty sure that you need them to play games as the open sources ones don't do too well in terms of gaming.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;32782615]Source games usually run well enough in wine. It all depends on your setup. It's not too big of a hassle really. You can always try with one game. If it works the others should.
You might have problems with your GPU. I'm not too experienced with ATI GPUs (I have been avoiding them, really.) I do know that their propriatary drivers can easily be a major pain in the ass. Also, I'm pretty sure that you need them to play games as the open sources ones don't do too well in terms of gaming.[/QUOTE]
well as far as drivers go i havent had any problems, the distro practicly came with them, it just notified me that i needed them and installed them very quickly, but thanks for the tip anyways
I'd suggest getting [URL="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/"]PlayOnLinux[/URL] for games, makes a lot of things easier, especially for newbies. Also check the [URL="http://appdb.winehq.org/"]Wine AppDB[/URL] to see which games/apps run with wine and also how good.
Don't use 11.04, use 11.10, lots of new features, more stable and such
For gaming, I haven't had good experiences when it comes to wine.
But do go ahead and give it a try! Wine seems to have a mind of it's own, completely independent of the code it's been written in and completely dependent on which kind of computer specifically you're using, the time of the day, position of stars, moon cycle, etc.
Wine doesn't always work very well, but mostly it does the job it's meant to.
I haven't had any good experiences with it.
If you're going to do gaming though, you might want to try the open source drivers first. If they work for you, that's GREAT news! If not, you should try the proprietary drivers.
But that's just my opinion :)
[QUOTE=TehWhale;32801609]Don't use 11.04, use 11.10, lots of new features, more stable and such[/QUOTE]
please read the post, i am running 11.10. unfortunatly, cant change the thread title
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[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;32805885]For gaming, I haven't had good experiences when it comes to wine.
But do go ahead and give it a try! Wine seems to have a mind of it's own, completely independent of the code it's been written in and completely dependent on which kind of computer specifically you're using, the time of the day, position of stars, moon cycle, etc.
Wine doesn't always work very well, but mostly it does the job it's meant to.
I haven't had any good experiences with it.
If you're going to do gaming though, you might want to try the open source drivers first. If they work for you, that's GREAT news! If not, you should try the proprietary drivers.
But that's just my opinion :)[/QUOTE]
well thanks for all that advice, i do have some kind of driver that works very well, its just the one that ubuntu downloaded for me so it may be the open source ones and they seem to be stable, havent had a crash yet. i think the best thing for me to do is just to go through my library and test each game, and then just slowly make my windows partition smaller and smaller until i only have the games that wont work on ubuntu on there. thanks for all the help guys :)
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Torekk;32799818]I'd suggest getting [URL="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/"]PlayOnLinux[/URL] for games, makes a lot of things easier, especially for newbies. Also check the [URL="http://appdb.winehq.org/"]Wine AppDB[/URL] to see which games/apps run with wine and also how good.[/QUOTE]
okay, thanks, will have a go
Minecraft can run on Linux natively, so you don't need to worry about wine.
From prior experiences, Source games run faster on Wine+Linux than native Windows.
[QUOTE=Soviet_Banter;32829872]From prior experiences, Source games run faster on Wine+Linux than native Windows.[/QUOTE]
You can get quite a bit more power from Linux than Windows, but it all depends on the computer when Wine is the matter at hand.
I also play SCII and WoW with higher frame rates.
[QUOTE=Soviet_Banter;32831257]I also play SCII and WoW with higher frame rates.[/QUOTE]
World of Warcraft is also said to be one of, if not THE best games when it comes to Wine.
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;32831563]World of Warcraft is also said to be one of, if not THE best games when it comes to Wine.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's really good on Linux.
IIRC I get a lower ping on Linux too.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;32833149]Yeah, it's really good on Linux.
IIRC I get a lower ping on Linux too.[/QUOTE]
Same here, but "Windows is the gaming OS."
I have had good experiences running Steam + TF2 in Kubuntu. (Ubuntu with KDE).
Even with the desktop effects turned on.
It runs full speed but starts to slow down a lot when other players are on screen.
The window manager and desktop environment you use will determine how fast your Wine games will run. See [url=http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=5]here[/url]. You're using Unity, which uses Compiz, so you should be okay in terms of performance. I had very dreadful performance in Gnome Shell with Wine games. As much as I love Shell, it is not yet suitable for gaming with ATI cards.
it's a dumb idea to purchase or switch to a product that can't do something you want to do natively. even though wine is solid and works very well, it's ridiculous to switch your main gaming computer to an operating system that isn't meant for gaming
every time i've had to rationalize a decision to switch to something else "because if i do this and this and that, it'll perform just good enough to be usable!!" i inevitably regret it because it was a dumb fucking idea
Why are you even asking this? If you want to play those games don't install linux
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;32916864]it's a dumb idea to purchase or switch to a product that can't do something you want to do natively. even though wine is solid and works very well, it's ridiculous to switch your main gaming computer to an operating system that isn't meant for gaming
every time i've had to rationalize a decision to switch to something else "because if i do this and this and that, it'll perform just good enough to be usable!!" i inevitably regret it because it was a dumb fucking idea[/QUOTE]
False, if you have any reason to use Linux (there are many) you will want to stay in Linux. I have a dual boot of both Windows 7 and Gentoo Linux, and I find myself using Linux more than Windows besides the fact that I could do more things that are native to Windows rather than Linux. It just takes some patience and understanding (aka google searching) to get things the way you want.
seriously think about what you're saying
you are suggesting someone switch to linux to play video games
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;32975953]seriously think about what you're saying
you are suggesting someone switch to linux to play video games[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if you're one of those people who buys whatever game is on sale on Steam, then yeah Linux isn't going to work.
Sometimes I buy games on Steam just because they're on sale even though I had no intention of playing them before. Chances are, most of those games aren't going to work 100% correctly.
If you only play one or two games that work well in Wine you can pull it off.
I mostly play World of Warcraft these days which does work in Wine really well. But if I want to play something else I generally need to go into Windows.
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