NEW YORK: Bronx Hate Rally Speaker Says "Gays Are Worthy Of Death" - Polidicks

Igor Volsky at [I]Think Progress[/I] [URL="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/05/16/bronx-marriage-death/"]reports the words[/URL] of Rev. Ariel Torres Ortega of Radio Visión Cristiana, who spoke at Sen. Ruben Diaz' hate rally in the Bronx yesterday. Ortega's speech was being translated into English from the podium, hence the odd wording below. [quote] [I]This is the first of three reports filed from yesterday’s anti-gay marriage rally in Bronx, New York.[/I] [IMG]http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/PreviewScreenSnapz002.png[/IMG]New York Sen. Ruben Diaz Several thousand people rallied in the Bronx, New York yesterday against the impending push to legalize same-sex marriage. Organizers, including state Senator Reverend Ruben Diaz, several Spanish radio stations and churches, argued that marriage should be defined as a union between “one man and one woman” and urged the state government to abandon their effort or put the initiative up to a vote. “Let the people decide. If the people say yes, we’ll shut up,” Diaz said at the steps of the Bronx court house. “Bring it to the people, bring it to the people…look at the people!” he yelled to the crowd of several thousand Hispanic Americans. Diaz stressed that he was not condemning gay people, telling a small group of protesters gathered across the court house that his granddaughter — who was taking part in the counter demonstration — was a lesbian. “We respect you and we love you. You’ve never heard from me a word of insult to you. You’ve never heard me say — you never seen me call for homophobia or violence,” Diaz said, as organizers and police [URL="http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Rival-gay-marriage-rallies-held-1380880.php"]brought Erica Diaz[/URL] to the main podium to stand with Diaz. “This is my granddaughter,” he said, stressing that he had “respect” for her “decisions.” “She does what she wants,” Diaz told the crowd. And while the march and rally focused on the Christian message of “love,” the event remained deeply homophobic, with speakers routinely condemning gay people as “sinners” and describing same-sex relations as something wholly unnatural or perverse. In fact, just minutes before Diaz took to the microphone to stress his respect for gay people, Rev. Ariel Torres Ortega of Radio Visión Cristiana said that the gay people are “worthy of death”: [quote]Committing sexual acts between man and man. And receiving the retribution of the things that they have done from straying away. And because they did not take God in count. God gave them over to reprimand their mind to do things that are not right, being against all justice, fornication, perversity, aberrations, malignity…[B]those who practice such things are worthy to death, not only do they do it, but those who also practice it[/B]. God bless this earth. That is the word of God.[/quote]Watch a compilation: [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=7hM_ZWyiBnk[/URL] Demonstrators held signs that read “God’s Marriage = 1 man & 1 woman” and “Gay Marriage Is Against the Word of God.” A group called ‘The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Prosperity’ (TFP) led off the march and provided the musical accompaniment. One member distributed hundreds of flyers to passerbys explaining “why homosexual ‘marriage’ is harmful and must be opposed.” The print-out describes same-sex marriage as “evil,” against “natural law” and argues that allowing gay people to marry would “obscure certain basic moral values, devalue traditional marriage, and weaken public morality.” “[B]If homosexual ‘marriage’ is universally accepted as the present step in sexual ‘freedom,’ what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior?[/B]” the flyer asks. [I]For more coverage of the rally, click over to [URL="http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2011/05/as-if-a-truly-disturbing-rallys-not-enough-nom-accuses-us-of-poisoning-young-new-yorkers-minds.html"]Good As You[/URL], [URL="http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/05/nom-new-york-state-senator-lead-anti-gay-marriage-rally/"]LGBTQ Nation[/URL], and [URL="http://joemygod.blogspot.com/search/label/Bronx"]JoeMyGod[/URL].[/I][/quote] [I]Sources: [URL]http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/05/16/bronx-marriage-death/[/URL] [url]http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Rival-gay-marriage-rallies-held-1380880.php[/url] [/I]

This is the kind of situation where laws banning hate speech make sense, words like this could easily rile someone up and cause violence even though he isn't directly suggesting it.

Why can't everyone be loving and tolerant :(

[QUOTE=deathstarboot;29874899]Why can't everyone be loving and tolerant :([/QUOTE] Christian love.

[quote] “If homosexual ‘marriage’ is universally accepted as the present step in sexual ‘freedom,’ what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior?” [/quote] what the fuck is this guy talking about

[QUOTE=staticman;29874916]Christian love.[/QUOTE] I consider it "old generation". With the invention of the internet, the cultures that never knew a time without it will make this a very different world.

[QUOTE=deathstarboot;29874899]Why can't everyone be loving and tolerant :([/QUOTE] Here ya go [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xB4dbdNSXY[/media] But seriously, Hate Speech Laws please.

[QUOTE=tehfrog;29874917]what the fuck is this guy talking about[/QUOTE] It's the old "slippery slope" argument. A fallacious argument that's on par with Ad Hominems.

for fuck's sake

Snip this was dumb.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry... What?

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] Good job over-simplifying a serious issue that affects millions of people every day. That's offensive. [editline]16th May 2011[/editline] Leave it up to straight whites to marginalize the anguish of minorities. It's easy to dismiss minorities when you get a free ride through life.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] :psyduck:

amazing

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] This post is terrible, you should really feel bad about yourself.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] :frog: [B]IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING SIMPLE![/B]

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29876607]Anti Gays: LOL GAYS SUCK CAUSE THEY ARE NOT REPRODUCING AND SINNING GOD BY BEING GAY Gays: LOL YOU GUYS SUCK CAUSE YOU HATE US LOL It never ends. Both groups need to shut up and stop flaming each other. Its getting annoying.[/QUOTE] You really have no idea what you're talking about. The only smart thing to do in your case is not to even comment on it. Too late, though.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29874895]This is the kind of situation where laws banning hate speech make sense, words like this could easily rile someone up and cause violence even though he isn't directly suggesting it.[/QUOTE] what the fuck aren't you the one that kept complaining having Westboro Baptist Church barred from griefing funeral people hour before or after the funeral is fascist itself? what

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;29877815]what the fuck aren't you the one that kept complaining having Westboro Baptist Church barred from griefing funeral people hour before or after the funeral is fascist itself? what[/QUOTE] No I was the one saying that violence against the Westboro Baptist Church wasn't justified (they also don't say that any groups of people are worthy of death, they just call everyone fags)

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29878143]No I was the one saying that violence against the Westboro Baptist Church wasn't justified (they also don't say that any groups of people are worthy of death, they just call everyone fags)[/QUOTE] Umm... [img]http://images.indyposted.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Westboro-Baptist-Church-Dead-Soldiers.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/phelpswestchurch.jpg[/img] [img]http://cdn.hotstockmarket.com/4/49/490eb417_Westboro-Baptist-Church.jpg[/img] [img]http://bentcorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rainbow11255715861.jpg[/img] I saw them in person. Words like "dead" and "kill" are definitely thrown around.

[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;29878238]Umm... [img_thumb]http://images.indyposted.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Westboro-Baptist-Church-Dead-Soldiers.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/phelpswestchurch.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://cdn.hotstockmarket.com/4/49/490eb417_Westboro-Baptist-Church.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://bentcorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rainbow11255715861.jpg[/img_thumb] I saw them in person. Words like "dead" and "kill" are definitely thrown around.[/QUOTE] You're fighting the wrong battle here

Killing gays is fucking messed up. But its an equal world. Im sorry for my previous post. I was mad while i was typing it. But how does killing gays fix anything? It just creates more problems.

[QUOTE]“If homosexual ‘marriage’ is universally accepted as the present step in sexual ‘freedom,’ what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior?”[/QUOTE] Ugh. I hate these "if we legalize gay marriage then what's next?" arguments. Homosexuality is not just some fetish that is voluntarily engaged in. By not allowing gay marriage, they're preventing homosexuals from marrying the people that they love. It's a right that everyone else already has, and they're just taking it away.

Why is that black guy dressed like a plantation owner?

[QUOTE=Mingebox;29878696]Why is that black guy dressed like a plantation owner?[/QUOTE] To make US history nerds laugh at the irony.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;29878409]Killing gays is fucking messed up. But its an equal world. Im sorry for my previous post. I was mad while i was typing it. But how does killing gays fix anything? It just creates more problems.[/QUOTE] it doesn't gays are nature's condom and stops overpopulation, we need to protect our precious gays they're also talented in music, which is a plus

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;29878732]it doesn't gays are nature's condom and stops overpopulation, we need to protect our precious gays they're also talented in music, which is a plus[/QUOTE] What the fuck?

[QUOTE=Sanius;29878777]What the fuck?[/QUOTE] A poor attempt at humor I think.

[QUOTE=Swilly;29878799]A poor attempt at humor I think.[/QUOTE] you know it's true, i don't believe people have five hands, two eyes, two ears, one nose, and etc. cause they're just born with it, there's a reason for it. same goes for homosexuality, i believe it's nature's response of it's resource being raped by humans breeding too fast

If we allow interracial marriage what's next guys? Why can't the future come faster? [editline]16th May 2011[/editline] ^ You serious? :v: