Sanctions on Russia in phase 3, Russia shockingly not responding.
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[QUOTE]The European Union has revealed the details of its broad economic sanctions against Russia, including blocking access to capital markets for five major banks.
The U.S. is adopting the same strictures on Russia's big banks – including Sberbank, Gazprombank, VEB, VTB bank and Rosselkhozbank – which could restrict those banks' access to currency exchange. Canada has indicated it will follow.
The measures – a reaction to the downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17 over eastern Ukraine – and to Russia's continuing military adventurism in the area, are the third escalation of sanctions this year.
Russian leader Vladimir Putin appears unfazed by the sanctions.
Many in Washington had expected Putin's business friends who were hit by sanctions in March to push him toward de-escalation. Instead, he's taking an even more confrontational and isolationist course, annexing Crimea and fostering insurgents deeper into Ukraine.
Kurt Volker, executive director of the McCain Institute for International Leadership and a former U.S ambassador to NATO, says Putin cares very little about being liked in the West. Instead, he has his own agenda, which is about building a sphere of influence that includes the former Soviet states.
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/sanctions-against-russia-in-phase-3-but-is-vladimir-putin-listening-1.2724210[/url]
Do we really expect Putin to come out like "I'm so sorry omg I really fucked up I'll do anything you want"
I love how people think these sanctions would make the Russian people turn against Putin. If anything the Kremlin will now be able to blame literally [B]all[/B] of Russia's internal problems on the western sanctions, which means that Putin (or men very much like him) will hold the reins of power for some time.
That's all without considering that Russia's relations with China and the BRICS countries will ensure the impact of these sanctions will only be temporary.
[QUOTE=The golden;45563766]He's got so much going with China (and other allies) right now that he can probably sit pretty comfortably.[/QUOTE]
China isn't really Russia's ally.
It's more like it'll be internationally isolated, a pariah of sorts, and stymied by international finance. It's kind of the stuff that turned nations on to fascism originally. Then the fSU as a whole will be consigned to the fate of being a shithole of quarreling nationalists.
[QUOTE=Conscript;45563896]China isn't really Russia's ally.
It's more like it'll be internationally isolated, a pariah of sorts, and stymied by international finance, kind of the stuff that turned nations on to fascism originally. Then the fSU as a whole will be consigned to the fate of being a shithole of quarreling nationalists.[/QUOTE]
You should listen to what Chinese State Media has been saying, they've generally taken Russia's side throughout this whole thing.
China and Russia are on very good terms, better at least then they were in the Cold War. They may have disagreements, but they both recognize a common interest: the end of American Hegemony. Until that end is achieved both countries will be more than willing to put their differences on the shelf.
All these sanctions will do more damage than good to European economies.
Not saying anything, but this
[QUOTE]the measures – a reaction to the downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17[/QUOTE]
is kinda strange, considering that it's totally not confirmed that we have something to do with this.
I mean, yeah, it's likely that it was shot down by separatists, and it's possible that they used russian weapons to do this, but still.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45564082]All these sanctions will do more damage than good to European economies.[/QUOTE]can't speak for other nations but i hear they may seriously hurt the important trade between us and the Rus
[QUOTE=antianan;45564375]Not saying anything, but this
is kinda strange, considering that it's totally not confirmed that we have something to do with this.
I mean, yeah, it's likely that it was shot down by separatists, and it's possible that they used russian weapons to do this, but still.[/QUOTE]
NATO will do anything to stop Russia from getting strong.
[QUOTE=The golden;45563766]He's got so much going with China (and other allies) right now that he can probably sit pretty comfortably.[/QUOTE]
because that worked out so well for iran, having to dump their oil on the chinese market at an undisclosed 3 figure % discount, the chinese aren't stupid they're the only ones with cash and they are negotiating from a position of power
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=antianan;45564375]Not saying anything, but this
is kinda strange, considering that it's totally not confirmed that we have something to do with this.
I mean, yeah, it's likely that it was shot down by separatists, and it's possible that they used russian weapons to do this, but still.[/QUOTE]
sorry to burst your bubble but the Buk missile system requires a lot more training than the ~6 months this rebelion has been going on would have allowed for plus this system isn't in the Ukrainian arsenal so there's no chance these guys are ex-Ukrainian forces
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sorry to burst your bubble but the Buk missile system requires a lot more training than the ~6 months this rebelion has been going on would have allowed for plus this system isn't in the Ukrainian arsenal so there's no chance these guys are ex-Ukrainian forces[/QUOTE]
Actually, buk is in ukranian's arsenal. Also, there are a lot of former millitary guys among rebels, so it's quite possible that some of them know how to use this system.
Again, i'm not telling that we are not involved in this, since i don't know if it's true or not. But in justice there is a thing called presumption of innocence, and all your "proofs" are kinda like circumstantial evidences.
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