'The Marriage Vow: A Declaration of Dependence upon marriage and family,' AKA More bullshit from the - Polidicks

[quote]This morning, Iowa’s FAMiLY Leader unveiled “[URL="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/The-Family-Leader-Presidential-Pledge.pdf"]The Marriage Vow: A Declaration of Dependence upon MARRIAGE and FAMILY[/URL],” a 14 bullet pledge presidential candidates will have to sign to secure any “future endorsement” from the organization and its influential leader, Bob Vander Plaats. Throughout the early primary process, Vander Plaats — a three-time unsuccessful gubernatorial candidate who helped propel Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) to victory in the state in 2008 and ran a successful campaign to recall three justices who overturned Iowa’s anti same-sex marriage law — has sought to position himself as a gatekeeper to the conservative voters who participate in the Iowa caucuses. Leader has hosted a presidential forum with almost all of the GOP’s 2012 contenders and Plaats has traveled to Washington, DC to present himself as a national Tea Party leader.Today’s pledge seeks to solidify the organization’s reputation as the state’s conservative moral authority, and it reiterates many of the group’s extreme social views and anti-gay rhetoric. If any candidate signs on to Leader’s vows, they will be agreeing to the following radical constructs:[INDENT][B]– HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE:[/B] The preface to the pledge reads, “Social protections…have been evaporating as we have collectively ‘debased the currency’ of marriage…in complete absence of empirical proof, that non-heterosexual inclination are genetically determined, irresistible and akin to innate traits like race, gender and eye color; as well as anti-scientific bias which holds, against all empirical evidence, that homosexual behavior in particular, and sexual promiscuity in general, optimizes individual or public health.” Footnote 8 reiterates this notion. [B]– HOMOSEXUALITY IS LIKE POLYGAMY, ADULTERY, POLYANDRY[/B]: Vow 4 requires the candidate to pledge “Vigorous opposition to any redefinition of the Institution of Marriage…through statutory, bureaucratic, or court-imposed recognition of intimate unions which are bigamous, polygamous, polyandrous, same-sex.” [B]– HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK:[/B] Footnote 4 claims that homosexuality causes shorter life expectancy and a higher probability of a long list of sexually transmitted diseases. The Leader has previously compared same-sex marriage to second-hand smoking. [B]– SEX IS BETTER AFTER MARRIAGE:[/B] Vow 5 requires the candidate to support the notion that “married people enjoy better health, better sex.” [B]– PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED:[/B] Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.” [B]– REJECT SHARIA ISLAM:[/B] Vow 11 requires the candidate to reject Sharia law. [/INDENT] Despite Vander Plaats’ best efforts to woo the GOP establishment, many of the Republicans who spoke at the FAMiLY Leader’s presidential forum have already dismissed its extremest anti-gay beliefs. [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/05/03/177388/santorum-gay-public-health/"]Rick Santorum[/URL], [URL="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/04/20/pawlenty-homosexuality-health-risk/"]Tim Pawlenty[/URL] and [URL="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/04/12/bachmann-homosexuality-smoking/"]Michele Bachmann[/URL], have all told ThinkProgress that they do not believe that homosexuality is [URL="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/02/04/leader-hooper/"]akin to second hand smoking[/URL]. Next week, the group will host former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who — given his past admissions of infidelity — may not be able to commit to a pledge that requires “personal fidelity to my spouse” as its first vow.[/quote] Nothing new, but still fucked up. Source: [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/07/07/263006/iowa-group-asks-republican-candidates-to-agree-that-homosexuality-is-a-choice-pornography-should-be-banned/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150700566950514_22866837_10150701861220514"]http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/07/07/263006/iowa-group-asks-republican-candidates-to-agree-that-homosexuality-is-a-choice-pornography-should-be-banned/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150700566950514_22866837_10150701861220514 [/URL][URL]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-ia-iowaconservatives,0,2405601.story[/URL]

[quote]HOMOSEXUALITY IS LIKE POLYGAMY, ADULTERY, POLYANDRY[/quote] Yes; just like polygamy, adultery and polyandry, homosexuality is completely o.k. and is nobodies business [editline]1[/editline] Aren't these people listed as a hate group somewhere?

Who's the Family exactly i thought you were talking about the royal family from uk or whatever but this is in iowa so it isn't them

A christian extremist group trying to outlaw homosexuality where have i seen this before

[QUOTE=XanaToast.;30990709]A christian extremist group trying to outlaw homosexuality [/QUOTE] oh ok nothing new then from a retarded group of people

[quote]PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED: Vow 9 stipulates that the candidate must “support human protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy” and protect them from “seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography…and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”[/quote] And HOW many followers do they have? None? That's what I thought.

Focus on your own damn Family!!!

Pretty much every point they make in that document is batshit insane or implying a married gay couple isn't a family.

Why don't they just mind their own business and live in their own little fantasy world? They make their own life miserable, why drag everybody else down?

[QUOTE=Sanius;30990690]Yes; just like polygamy, adultery and polyandry, homosexuality is completely o.k. and is nobodies business [editline]1[/editline] Aren't these people listed as a hate group somewhere?[/QUOTE] That's the Family Research Council, and in the end, the group's anti-gay founder [url=http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/05/gay_escort_gave_nude_massages.html]ended up in the middle of a sex scandal involving a male escort. [/url] But nothing sexual ever happened, according to George Alan Rekers, who admitted to hiring an escort off of a gay prostitution site, but just to :airquote: carry his bags and stuff :airquote:

Counter-butthurt butthurt? The irony.

[QUOTE=Sanius;30990690]Yes; just like polygamy, adultery and polyandry, homosexuality is completely o.k. and is nobodies business [editline]1[/editline] Aren't these people listed as a hate group somewhere?[/QUOTE] But adultery, i.e. a person cheating on his wife without her knowledge, should be discouraged at least

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;30991447]But adultery, i.e. a person cheating on his wife without her knowledge, should be discouraged at least[/QUOTE] uh okay but it's still nobodies business

The less attention you give these IRL trolls the better.

[QUOTE=Sanius;30991460]uh okay but it's still nobodies business[/QUOTE] fine whatever

[QUOTE=Sanius;30990690]Yes; just like polygamy, adultery and polyandry, homosexuality is completely o.k. and is nobodies business [editline]1[/editline] Aren't these people listed as a hate group somewhere?[/QUOTE] OK, [i]maybe[/i] if polygamy had the full consent of everyone involved it might be OK, but are you seriously defending adulterers?

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;30991638]OK, [i]maybe[/i] if polygamy had the full consent of everyone involved it might be OK, but are you seriously defending adulterers?[/QUOTE] yes

And you use misogynist as an insult?

I'm guessing this is an inbred family.

violence is starting to seem like a solution against bigots.

[QUOTE=Mudbone;30991854]violence is starting to seem like a solution against bigots.[/QUOTE] let's counter violence with violence great idea A+

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;30991747]And you use misogynist as an insult?[/QUOTE] there's nothing wrong with using it as an insult but sometimes some people like to use it for a [i]lot[/i] of things

It is a good sign that none of the candidates signed the pledge. I wish neoconservative would go away because the whole ideology is based around forcing your beliefs on others through law.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;30991447]But adultery, i.e. a person cheating on his wife without her knowledge, should be discouraged at least[/QUOTE] I don't think adultery necessarily has to secretive. If a couple okays extramarital sex then it's nobody's business +1.

Question for Americans: How many people take these idiots seriously?

Please tell me that this is satire.

I am a Christian and I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality. I wouldn't treat anyone differently if I knew they were a homosexual. I think anyone that does is just promoting hatred, which is NOT the job of a Christian, and just making us all look bad. [editline]8th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;30992903]Question for Americans: How many people take these idiots seriously?[/QUOTE] I would prefer to outlaw them instead, since they give not only Christians but also America as a whole a bad name. :v:

Yes yes claiming that homosexuality is such this bad thing then trying to out sharia law. totally helping you.

[QUOTE=Billiam;30992104]I don't think adultery necessarily has to secretive. If a couple okays extramarital sex then it's nobody's business +1.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Elecbullet;30991447]But adultery, i.e. a person cheating on his wife [b]without her knowledge,[/b] should be discouraged at least[/QUOTE] Is it adultery if both members of a couple OK it? [b]edit:[/b] Legit question to which I don't know the answer[/b]

buncha bigoted busybodies [editline]8th July 2011[/editline] a la [img]http://politicaljesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/50827417.jpg[/img]