NOM Praises Chick-Fil-A CEO's Anti-Gay Marriage Stance - Polidicks

[img]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/694791/thumbs/r-CHICKFILA-large570.jpg[/img] [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/-gay-marriage-chick-fil-a_n_1687743.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices"] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/-gay-marriage-chick-fil-a_n_1687743.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices[/URL] [quote]In recent weeks, as a wave of business executives and corporations have signaled support for legalizing same-sex marriage, groups that oppose gay marriage have launched boycott campaigns and have written letters urging corporations to remain "neutral" on the issue. But this week when the president of Chick-fil-A came out against same-sex marriage, the National Organization for Marriage praised him as a "corporate hero for marriage."The National Organization for Marriage is one of the advocacy groups leading the charge against legalizing same-sex marriage -- and the push for corporate neutrality.In a Monday interview with the Baptist Press, Dan Cathy, Chick-fil-A's president and chief executive, said [URL="http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271"]"guilty as charged,"[/URL] when asked about "the company's support of the traditional family."Cathy had [URL="http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2012/07/audio-chickfila-president-coo-dan-cathy-says-arrogant-same-sex-marriage-shaking-fist-at-god-invites-god-judgment.html"]also noted his opposition[/URL] to same-sex marriage and its advocates in a recent radio interview. "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about," he said.The company has [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html"]long been under fire [/URL]from gay rights advocates for its history of giving to groups that advocate against gay rights. Officials at the fast food chain have mostly remained silent on the issue although longtime company observers say Cathy's recent public statements come as no surprise.On Thursday, the National Organization for Marriage celebrated Cathy's statements. The NOM blog [URL="http://www.nomblog.com/25473/"]carried a link[/URL] to the Baptist Press article, with the headline "President of Chick-Fil-A Proud to Stand for Biblical and Family Values" and the line "The Baptist Press profiles a corporate hero for marriage."In 2011, NOM launched its Corporate Fairness Project, a program designed to push for corporate neutrality. According to its head, Jonathan Baker, it was created because "an increasing number of advocates of same-sex marriage were requesting corporations take a stand.""We believe that when a corporation takes a position [on same sex marriage] it has a chilling effect on the ability of employees to speak out," [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/17/same-sex-marriage-corporations-ballot-measures-nom_n_1600718.html"]Baker explained last month,[/URL]after sending a letter to nearly 100 Minnesota businesses, requesting that they keep out of the debate in that state over a proposed constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage that will appear on ballots in November.The Corporate Fairness Project is also leading boycotts of Starbucks and General Mills, two companies that have publicly supported same-sex marriage.But Baker argues that Cathy's actions are not similar to executives' actions at the other companies because Cathy was expressing his "personal opinion.""Its a question of what's appropriate," Baker said. "Is it appropriate for a corporation to take a stance? We don't believe so. Is it appropriate for individuals to have a personal opinion? We believe so."But in his interview this week with the Baptist Press, Cathy never said he was merely articulating his personal opinion on marriage. The company is known for promoting the company founders' Christian values, which has led it to close all stores on Sundays."We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy told the Baptist Press reporter. "We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."The company posted a [URL="https://www.facebook.com/ChickfilA"]separate statement[/URL] on Thursday on its Facebook page that states, however, that the "The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect -- regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. The company also said that it intended to stay out of the policy debate over same-sex marriage "going forward."When asked for comment, a company representative said it was not commenting on the matter beyond the Facebook statement.Fred Sainz, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights group, rejected the entire premise of NOM's neutrality campaign. "There is no such thing as being neutral on discrimination," he wrote in an email to The Huffington Post.According to Equality Matters, the company gave[URL="http://equalitymatters.org/factcheck/201207020001"] nearly $2 million[/URL] to anti-gay groups in 2009 and 2010.[/quote] I swear this is my last Chick Fil-A thread.

mmm chicken sandwiches

And Chick Fil-A has such [i]nice[/i] sandwiches, too. Damned shame, really.

fuck the ceo but their tenders are delicious

That is ok for me because I avoided their overpriced mediocre food anyway. There are a lot of places where you can get fried chicken that is cheaper and tastier, plus I thought everyone already knew this place was hella conservative.

i dont care im still going to buy chick-fil-a because its fucking delicious

[quote]"I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about," he said.[/quote] well I agree with him on that point

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36857694]That is ok for me because I avoided their overpriced mediocre food anyway. There are a lot of places where you can get fried chicken that is cheaper and tastier, plus I thought everyone already knew this place was hella conservative.[/QUOTE] I stopped going to Chick Fil-A last year when their anti-gay stuff was all over the news.

[QUOTE=elevator13;36857745]well I agree with him on that point[/QUOTE] But see since he's a conservative christian dude Does he mean "let whoever do whatever" or does he mean "God defined marriage who the fuck do you people think you are" wait I'm slow nevermind

Mormon chicken, my favorite

OM NOM NOM.

[quote]"I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about,"[/quote]Wow, irony much.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;36857757]I stopped going to Chick Fil-A last year when their anti-gay stuff was all over the news.[/QUOTE] But even before then anyone who worked there could tell you that they were ultra-Christian and really rightist.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36857844]But even before then anyone who worked there could tell you that they were ultra-Christian and really rightist.[/QUOTE] doesnt everyone know that? they're closed literally every sunday. [editline]20th July 2012[/editline] they have the best fries ever too

I never understood why not gay people care whether people are gay or not, especially if you're coming from a business standpoint. I understand personal and religious beliefs, but what in the world does people getting married have to do with chicken sandwiches and fries?

[QUOTE=D0C H.;36857985]I never understood why not gay people care whether people are gay or not, especially if you're coming from a business standpoint. I understand personal and religious beliefs, but what in the world does people getting married have to do with chicken sandwiches and fries?[/QUOTE]BEcause God

I'd get "Being gay is a sin because of what I believe in says so". But I don't get "Being gay is a sin because of what I believe in says so, also I own a chicken restaurant"

[QUOTE=D0C H.;36858400]I'd get "Being gay is a sin because of what I believe in says so". But I don't get "Being gay is a sin because of what I believe in says so, also I own a chicken restaurant"[/QUOTE] Trying to get your point across through use of power or social stance i'd guess.

"i know i'm right because i've been alive for a long time!"

Fuck the drama, their chicken sammiches and milkshakes are amazing.

He's simply following biblical tradition. If you don't support gay marriage because you follow biblical tradition, I'm okay with that. It's [I][/I][B]their[/B] belief. But if you don't support gay marriage just because you don't like gays, then I'm not okay with that. I'm very religious yet I support gay marriage. I believe in equality. Do I believe in traditional marriage? Yes, but I'm still in support of equality. Sure, I'll admit he's gone a bit overboard. Maybe it was simply blown out of proportion, I don't know. Maybe when I meet him on Monday I will ask him in-depth about the topic. But I just wish facepunch would stop being so one-sided about most things. Sure, I get you all hate religion, but I sometimes wish you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their belief. I loosely follow my belief. Cathy obviously strictly follows his belief. Sometimes I wish you guys would get over that and respect their differences. /rant

[QUOTE=redBadger;36859102]you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their belief. respect their differences.[/QUOTE] Oh this is my absolute favorite when someone says this. Respect is earned.

[QUOTE=redBadger;36859102]He's simply following biblical tradition. If you don't support gay marriage because you follow biblical tradition, I'm okay with that. It's [I][/I][B]their[/B] belief. But if you don't support gay marriage just because you don't like gays, then I'm not okay with that. I'm very religious yet I support gay marriage. I believe in equality. Do I believe in traditional marriage? Yes, but I'm still in support of equality. Sure, I'll admit he's gone a bit overboard. Maybe it was simply blown out of proportion, I don't know. Maybe when I meet him on Monday I will ask him in-depth about the topic. But I just wish facepunch would stop being so one-sided about most things. Sure, I get you all hate religion, but I sometimes wish you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their belief. I loosely follow my belief. Cathy obviously strictly follows his belief. Sometimes I wish you guys would get over that and respect their differences. /rant[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but I can rightfully say fuck anybody who uses religious dogma for the justification of discrimination. Fuck right off. It's disgusting and it's sickening. Stoning unruly children is biblical tradition, should we respect people who choose that sort of punishment for their kids? It's a pathetic excuse.

Corporations which support gay marriage: HOW DARE YOU MAKE A STANCE ON POLITICAL ISSUES,YOU MUST REMAIN TOTALLY NEUTRAL! Corporations which oppose gay marriage: YOU ARE THE SHINING BEACON OF MORALITY,KEEP IT UP.

[QUOTE=znk666;36859367]Corporations which support gay marriage: HOW DARE YOU MAKE A STANCE ON POLITICAL ISSUES,YOU MUST REMAIN TOTALLY NEUTRAL! Corporations which oppose gay marriage: YOU ARE THE SHINING BEACON OF MORALITY,KEEP IT UP.[/QUOTE] what?

[QUOTE=redBadger;36859102]He's simply following biblical tradition. If you don't support gay marriage because you follow biblical tradition, I'm okay with that. It's [I][/I][B]their[/B] belief. But if you don't support gay marriage just because you don't like gays, then I'm not okay with that. I'm very religious yet I support gay marriage. I believe in equality. Do I believe in traditional marriage? Yes, but I'm still in support of equality. Sure, I'll admit he's gone a bit overboard. Maybe it was simply blown out of proportion, I don't know. Maybe when I meet him on Monday I will ask him in-depth about the topic. But I just wish facepunch would stop being so one-sided about most things. Sure, I get you all hate religion, but I sometimes wish you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their belief. I loosely follow my belief. Cathy obviously strictly follows his belief. Sometimes I wish you guys would get over that and respect their differences. /rant[/QUOTE] So i should respect people whom cling onto ideals that are extremely bigoted and disgraceful? Why the hell should anyone respect people whom would gladly murder their own children if an imaginary voice in their head would tell them to do it. There is literally no reason for anyone to respect people's beliefs,the only thing people should respect is the person's freedom to have them. [editline]20th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Dori;36859383]what?[/QUOTE] [quote]In recent weeks, as a wave of business executives and corporations have signaled support for legalizing same-sex marriage, groups that oppose gay marriage have launched boycott campaigns and have written letters urging corporations to remain "neutral" on the issue. But this week when the president of Chick-fil-A came out against same-sex marriage, the National Organization for Marriage praised him as a "corporate hero for marriage."[/quote]

[QUOTE=Dori;36859383]what?[/QUOTE] He's talking about NOM wanting corporations to be neutral, but their definition of "neutral" is "fuck gay marriage"

For those outside the US, what exactly is Chick-Fil-A? Just a chicken sandwich shop? (Much more interested in that than some guy's cretinous opinions)

[QUOTE=redBadger;36859102]He's simply following biblical tradition. If you don't support gay marriage because you follow biblical tradition, I'm okay with that. It's [I][/I][B]their[/B] belief. But if you don't support gay marriage just because you don't like gays, then I'm not okay with that. I'm very religious yet I support gay marriage. I believe in equality. Do I believe in traditional marriage? Yes, but I'm still in support of equality. Sure, I'll admit he's gone a bit overboard. Maybe it was simply blown out of proportion, I don't know. Maybe when I meet him on Monday I will ask him in-depth about the topic. But I just wish facepunch would stop being so one-sided about most things. Sure, I get you all hate religion, but I sometimes wish you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their belief. I loosely follow my belief. Cathy obviously strictly follows his belief. Sometimes I wish you guys would get over that and respect their differences. /rant[/QUOTE] Also tell me if you see any difference between this and your post: [QUOTE=redBadger;36859102]He's simply following Nazi ideology. If you support sending jews to concentration camps because you follow Nazi ideals, I'm okay with that. It's [I][/I][B]their[/B] ideology. But if you support sending Jews to concentration camps just because you don't like Jews, then I'm not okay with that. I'm a Nazi yet I do not support sending Jews to concentration camps. I believe in equality. Do I believe in Hitler's ideals? Yes, but I'm still in support of equality. Sure, I'll admit he's gone a bit overboard. Maybe it was simply blown out of proportion, I don't know. Maybe when I meet him on Monday I will ask him in-depth about the topic. But I just wish facepunch would stop being so one-sided about most things. Sure, I get you all hate Nazism, but I sometimes wish you'd respect those who actually respectfully follow their ideologies. I loosely follow my ideology. Cathy obviously strictly follows his ideology. Sometimes I wish you guys would get over that and respect their differences. /rant[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dori;36859383]what?[/QUOTE] JC Penney hired lesbian Ellen Degeneres as a spokeswoman, or something. The immediate response was to "be neutral in the culture war" and fire her. [editline]20th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=lotusking;36857863]doesnt everyone know that? they're closed literally every sunday. [editline]20th July 2012[/editline] they have the best fries ever too[/QUOTE] wtf those fries are shit [editline]20th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Memobot;36859584]For those outside the US, what exactly is Chick-Fil-A? Just a chicken sandwich shop? (Much more interested in that than some guy's cretinous opinions)[/QUOTE] Yeah, they supposedly invented the chicken sandwich, and my god they do those well. Goddamned delicious food, and in my experience, a really clean ass place in general, very nice bathrooms and shit. They are also very religious, closed every Sunday, with a sign for each one explaining why Biblically.