The execution of a Georgia man who murdered a cop on the side of the road in 1998 has been scheduled
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[QUOTE]The Georgia Department of Corrections on Friday set a Jan. 13 execution date for Andrew Howard Brannan, who murdered a 22-year-old Laurens County deputy during a 1998 traffic stop.
If Brannan is put to death by lethal injection, he will be second man Georgia has executed in little more than a month; Robert Holsey was executed on Dec. 9 for murdering a Baldwin County deputy.
In January 1998, Laurens County deputy Kyle Dinkheller stopped Brannan on Interstate 16 for speeding, driving at 98 mph.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/execution-set-for-man-who-murdered-deputy-in-1998/njfTF/[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-ycSkoYfc[/url] - Video in question. NSFW
Oh shit, I've seen that video before. On one hand, it's absolutely disgusting - he executed the officer in an extremely heinous way... On the other, knowing how well the last couple of executions by lethal injection went...
What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.
Good lord, that video was brutal
I know this might be buried as it's too late. But if you have a weak or even strong stomach please [B]please[/B] [B][I]PLEASE[/I][/B] do not watch the video. I'm someone who's been given thick skin by everything on the internet and even the video made my stomach turn and I could hear the Officer's scream for a week.
Make the choice, but be fucking sure that the video WILL haunt you if you do.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
This isn't the right place for a pro/anti capital punishment shitfest.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
Whats the point of locking him away to rot in a cell, effectively tortured to death by confinement at the expense of tax payers? He committed a crime from which there is no return he murdered a police officer in cold blood its not about "eye for an eye" justice, its about what is reasonable.
[QUOTE=Proj3ct_ZeRo;46853492]Whats the point of locking him away to rot in a cell, effectively tortured to death by confinement at the expense of tax payers? He committed a crime from which there is no return he murdered a police officer in cold blood its not about "eye for an eye" justice, its about what is reasonable.[/QUOTE]
Killing people isn't reasonable.
this is one of the few times I can't really say much against the death penalty.
we have incontrovertible proof that he did it, the main reason I protest the death penalty is the chance an innocent could be executed isn't worth it, but in this instance that isn't a threat. He's not a likely contender for being reformed, probably even the very type of criminal who would abuse the system if that were an option given to him
Don't scroll down to view the comments in that video.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46853500]this is one of the few times I can't really say much against the death penalty.
we have incontrovertible proof that he did it, the main reason I protest the death penalty is the chance an innocent could be executed isn't worth it, but in this instance that isn't a threat. He's not a likely contender for being reformed, probably even the very type of criminal who would abuse the system if that were an option given to him[/QUOTE]
A good reason to be against the death penalty is that it costs an absurd amount of money to execute someone. All those court proceedings and appeal costs are insanely high. For example, in [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/20/california-death-penalty-execution-costs"]Californa it costs more than $300M per execution[/URL].
It's probably less in Georgia, but the point still remains. It costs less for life imprisonment than it does for an execution.
Conservatives complain about the high cost of welfare and such, what about the insane cost of executing people? Literally just pissing money away.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46853501]Don't scroll down to view the comments in that video.[/QUOTE]
I made the mistake of doing that
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Biggest bunch of edgy little children I've seen in a long time
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
One rotten piece of shit removed from society
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[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46853491]This isn't the right place for a pro/anti capital punishment shitfest.[/QUOTE]
Why not? It's entirely relevant. What should this thread be about then?
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[QUOTE=Proj3ct_ZeRo;46853492]Whats the point of locking him away to rot in a cell, effectively tortured to death by confinement at the expense of tax payers? He committed a crime from which there is no return he murdered a police officer in cold blood its not about "eye for an eye" justice, its about what is reasonable.[/QUOTE]
There would be no point in locking him away to rot either. The man was judged sane so he should be kept imprisoned until professionals deem him safe to start living outside of prison again. Until that point, he should live the most comfortable life possible within safe prison conditions.
[editline]4th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46853500]this is one of the few times I can't really say much against the death penalty.
we have incontrovertible proof that he did it, the main reason I protest the death penalty is the chance an innocent could be executed isn't worth it, but in this instance that isn't a threat. He's not a likely contender for being reformed, probably even the very type of criminal who would abuse the system if that were an option given to him[/QUOTE]
What if the court doctor fucked up and he really was/is insane? There goes another innocent up on the tally board of wrongful execution.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46853519]A good reason to be against the death penalty is that it costs an absurd amount of money to execute someone. All those court proceedings and appeal costs are insanely high. For example, in [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/20/california-death-penalty-execution-costs"]Californa it costs more than $300M per execution[/URL].
It's probably less in Georgia, but still. All those appeals are such a waste of state money.
Conservatives complain about the high cost of welfare and such, what about the insane cost of executing people? Literally just pissing money away.[/QUOTE]
well yes that is very true, those court cases can be shortened by the admission of guilt, a confession, or in this case, incontrovertible evidence of guilt. The case will still be a high costing case and i'm by no means supporting the death penalty, but my regular abhorrence to it isn't as active in cases where the guilt isn't in question and rehabilitation isn't an option. Even in that case, i'm not for the death penalty, I just wouldn't waste my time arguing over a minimally infringing case of it on my own personal morals.
I still think it's wrong for the government to control the deaths of people regardless.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;46853473]I know this might be buried as it's too late. But if you have a weak or even strong stomach please [B]please[/B] [B][I]PLEASE[/I][/B] do not watch the video. I'm someone who's been given thick skin by everything on the internet and even the video made my stomach turn and I could hear the Officer's scream for a week.
Make the choice, but be fucking sure that the video WILL haunt you if you do.[/QUOTE]
Not really no. It would seem the internet has galvanized my empathy more than I had thought.
Regardless of emotions, it's still brutal. While I am not one for death penalty, it would incredibly dangerous to let this man roam freely, as he has no issues about taking another life.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
It's either life in prison, or death penalty. I highly doubt he will ever set foot outside a prison again when he's shown that little remorse for another life. Not to mention the cold-blooded execution.
Death penalty or Death by old age in prison. At this point, 2 dead people are practically unavoidable.
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What if the court doctor fucked up and he really was/is insane? There goes another innocent up on the tally board of wrongful execution.[/QUOTE]
You're right it's a very possible outcome. Perhaps I stated my initial opinion wrongly, but I think it'd be best summed at this point by saying in a situation like this, it doesn't push my buttons to attack the death penalty as heavily as in other threads.
In any event, I don't feel the death penalty is a good solution either way.
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There would be no point in locking him away to rot either. The man was judged sane so he should be kept imprisoned until professionals deem him safe to start living outside of prison again. Until that point, he should live the most comfortable life possible within safe prison conditions.[/QUOTE]
I want to say that I'm of the same mindset as you, but I just can't. I can't think of a reason to say "This man that knowingly methodically tortured and murdered an officer for a routine traffic stop, even stopping to reload and ask 'What now fucker?' deserves any chance at rehabilitation"
I know I'm an asshole for thinking this, but that's just how it is. I can extend my compassion to repeat thieves, vandals and stuff like that, but not to someone who is so out of touch with their humanity such as this man.
I understand the statistics, rehabilitation works everywhere it's implemented at preventing repeat offences, but fuck, man
I'm going to be honest, despite how fucking awful this man's actions were, I still don't think he should be killed. If he had been shot by a random bystander, that would have been one thing- a spur of the moment action, and I wouldn't have exactly felt sorry for him even if I'd think that that shouldn't have happened. But I don't understand why the government thinks, having placed this person in an area in which he serves no harm to anybody, that for some reason he needs to die. It accomplishes nothing that a life sentence will not, and instead violates one of the most fundamental human rights. I'm not saying I feel sorry for this man being in prison- frankly, he deserves to rot for life if he cannot be reformed. But killing him for some perverted sense of 'justice' is just twisted.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46853549]I understand the statistics, rehabilitation works everywhere it's implemented at preventing repeat offences, but fuck, man[/QUOTE]
So you know it's wrong and there are better options but you want the man to be executed anyway?
That fucker deserves that sentence, have you seen that video?
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853554]So you know it's wrong and there are better options but you want the man to be executed anyway?[/QUOTE]
It takes a man with a lot more willpower than I to feel sympathy for a guy like him.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46853550]I'm going to be honest, despite how fucking awful this man's actions were, I still don't think he should be killed. If he had been shot by a random bystander, that would have been one thing- a spur of the moment action, and I wouldn't have exactly felt sorry for him even if I'd think that that shouldn't have happened. But I don't understand why the government thinks, having placed this person in an area in which he serves no harm to anybody, that for some reason he needs to die. It accomplishes nothing that a life sentence will not, and instead violates one of the most fundamental human rights. I'm not saying I feel sorry for this man being in prison- frankly, he deserves to rot for life if he cannot be reformed. But killing him for some perverted sense of 'justice' is just twisted.[/QUOTE]
So you admit that keeping him alive is effectively pointless as he has no chance of being reformed, or otherwise contributing to society in any possible way, but somehow locking him in a cell until he dies is better than just killing him and getting it over with?
It isn't about justice, it's about getting rid of a leach on society who is only going to rot away in prison otherwise.
Surprised this has come up again, that bastard will get what he has coming to him.
On the horrid topic, there is a recent shortfilm based on these events shot from a first person perspective of the officer.
[media]http://vimeo.com/90068717[/media]
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
this guy
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[QUOTE=Explosions;46853554]So you know it's wrong and there are better options but you want the man to be executed anyway?[/QUOTE]
I don't think I said I want him executed, I just want the guy behind bars for the rest of his life.
If professionals say that he's fine, then fine, integrate him back into society, but in the back of my mind I don't want him to set foot outside an institution again, because there's always the chance that something sets him off again.
Though I guess that is again a shitty reason. I'm not a professional after all
Rationally I agree with cutting capital punishment, don't worry.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46853604]Though I guess that is again a shitty reason. I'm not a professional after all.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely not a shitty reason. We can cover up mental illness and 'progress' through it as much as possible but its NEVER completely gone.
I'm not okay with the idea of him ever being free again
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE]
Stop before you hurt the dead cop's feelings! :(
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