Hi, just starting on my first build and would really appreciate your thoughts on the following before I click the buy button!
AMD Phenom II X4 940 3GHz Socket AM2+
MSI NF520T-C35 NForce 520 Socket AM2+ 8 Channel Audio Out ATX Motherboard
Corsair 4Gb (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 XMS2 Memory CL5 (5-6-6-18) 2.1V
Seagate ST3500418AS 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM
Sony AD7241S 24x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer & RAM Burner + LightScribe Black Bare Drive - OEM
Shiny Black Mid Tower ATX Case with LCD Display and 2x 8cm Side Fans - No PSU
Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors - Retail Boxed
HP Wireless 802.11b/g/n PCIe x1 Card
What do you think????
What about a graphics card?
yeah what gpu are you going to purchase? Possibly the most crucial part for gaming
Hi
Yes, I need help there too! This build is not for gaming or anything demanding graphics wise, but i spend all day on the net and using various software at the same time and get really frustrated with how slow my current kit is. But as that mobo has nothing, I guess i will need something?
If you are into gaming even a little get an Nvidia GT240 or even better an Ati radeon 4850. If you aren't into gaming or HD or anything like that get an Nvidia GT 210 you can find it at even 30$. But I strongly recommend the 4850 one. Full HD acceleration and you can find it at about 80 to 120$
Thank you, I had been looking at a 4350, I suppose I should get the best I can afford? How does the rest sound?
I read that you sometimes need a bios update for an AM2+ chip, but if I get an AM2+ board i assumed this would all work fine together.
[QUOTE=Stathis;19503870]If you are into gaming even a little get an Nvidia GT240 or even better an Ati radeon 4850. If you aren't into gaming or HD or anything like that get an Nvidia GT 210 you can find it at even 30$. But I strongly recommend the 4850 one. Full HD acceleration and you can find it at about 80 to 120$[/QUOTE]
No. It's not $120.
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824[/url]
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OP, don't get that build. What's your budget?
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And it's AM3 that needs a BIOS update. AM2+ isn't backwards compatible like AM3, and AM3 is only backwards compatible with AM2+.
Umm look you have a 3Ghz quad core processor combined with really fast RAM on a really old motherboard. As for the rest I think it's okay. So what I would do is get 800Mhz ram since you won't see any difference in anything really except video-games and spend the extra money on a better gpu.
Oh, great, thanks for that, sounds like i dont have to worry about the bios stuff.
Which bit of the build do you disagree with? It's my first one so I probably have it mostly wrong!!
Any help is very much appreciated.
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Sorry Stathis, I posted my last before i saw yours!
That sounds like it will save me cash too!
Or should I be looking for a better mobo??
[QUOTE=RedDwarf;19504057]Oh, great, thanks for that, sounds like i dont have to worry about the bios stuff.
Which bit of the build do you disagree with? It's my first one so I probably have it mostly wrong!!
Any help is very much appreciated.
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Sorry Stathis, I posted my last before i saw yours!
That sounds like it will save me cash too!
Or should I be looking for a better mobo??[/QUOTE]
We're going to need a budget.
I never had an amd processor. I don't really know about AM2+ mobos. Listen to what others have to say.
What's your budget?
Your powersupply isn't good.
Well, my budget is around £350, but from a previous post I see you quoted $ so we might have a currency issue!! Bear with me 2 mins and I will post the costs of what I have so far.
[QUOTE=RedDwarf;19504141]Well, my budget is around £350, but from a previous post I see you quoted $ so we might have a currency issue!! Bear with me 2 mins and I will post the costs of what I have so far.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, just give us the direct links to what you're getting.
Yeah give the name of the site you are going to purchase your things from
CPU [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155714[/url]
mobo [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174005[/url]
RAM [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166818[/url]
HDD [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158860[/url]
PSU [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124922[/url]
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Prices so far:
CPU 110
MOBO 38
RAM 86
HDD 35
Case 20
PSU 28
DVDRW 20ish
Wireless Card 25
Card reader 6
That 368, but if i change the memory 800 that saves 20
What I suggest (sorry for Intel :P )
Mobo -34P- [URL]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190137[/URL]
CPU -92- [URL]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158339[/URL]
RAM -36 x 2- [URL]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142399[/URL]
GPU -88- [URL]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172948[/URL]
and your case, Hdd, PSU,DVDRW,wireless and Card reader -134-
Total Price 285+134=about 419 Well it's much better and you will able to play even new games on it. Cons are the dual core processor. I don't think you should change PSU> My old 4 year PSU 350W supported my new PC (GTX 275 quad core intel) for about 2 weeks when my other one was broken and I didn't have a single problem.
You can even lower the price by selecting a way cheaper CPU.
I never considered an Intel! Thats only a dual core though, do you think that will be as good as the AMD quad?
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PS does anyone know how to change my profile pic? I seem to have been allocated a penis wearing sunglasses! lol
I have a really nice core2quad q6600 2.4ghz 3gb ram nvidia 8600gs lying here that could go for 250-300 pounds
[QUOTE=RedDwarf;19504390]I never considered an Intel! Thats only a dual core though, do you think that will be as good as the AMD quad?
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PS does anyone know how to change my profile pic? I seem to have been allocated a penis wearing sunglasses! lol[/QUOTE]
Don't go Intel. Your budget is too low. You'll get better price:formance with your budget if you go AMD.
[QUOTE=RedDwarf;19504390]I never considered an Intel! Thats only a dual core though, do you think that will be as good as the AMD quad?
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PS does anyone know how to change my profile pic? I seem to have been allocated a penis wearing sunglasses! lol[/QUOTE]
Since you will only surf the net on that machine even a pentium 4 should be enough. But if you really want to buy a quad core consider this for your budget [url]http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158333[/url]. Also same thing with memory you probably won't need 4GBs just buy one of the sticks and you will save up to 36p. Also that's a dog's butt with sunglasses ;). You can change your avatar by going to controls>edit avatar at the top of the page.
lol, so it is! maybe that says more about me than the picture!!
I currently use a dual core laptop and I dont know if it has slowed down or i have become less patient, but it seems to take forever to open docs load pages etc. I have quite a tight schedule to get my work done in the day and was just hoping to upgrade to something that would serve me a bit quicker/
Also I have to admit, some of it i just want and dont necessarily need. Also really fancied doing a build if I'm honest!
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One other thing
I have chosen a wireless n card as I intend to go and get a wireless n router.
Is it that simple? I have an n router and an n receiver, so I get faster wireless internet?
Well actually the g network is about "54 Mbps". Actually these numbers indicate more the range of each wireless card protocol rather than the speed. So if your PC is close to your router just get a g one.Get an n only if your router supports it and they are really distant to each other. Also about the slow thingy. This actually doesn't happen because of the hardware situation. Probably you just need a clean format on the laptop and everything will be as fast as you first bought it.
Cheers you guys! Thank you so much for helping me out, I really appreciate it.
I'm going to order my bits tomorrow, so if you think of anything else I should know I will check here before i press the button.
Thank you again!
So what are you going to go with?
To be honest.... I'm still not sure
I want a quad core, but i know i dont need one.
If I get a dual core, well i already have one of those! SO maybe i should try the format and clean up first before i spend £3-400 and see if the speed improves any.
I am hoping for a moment of clarity at some point this evening!
Can you describe specifically what are you going to do with this new build? Only internet surfing not HD content games or any heavy applications? Also you mentioned earlier about you having a laptop. Do you have a monitor for this build as well?
[QUOTE=RedDwarf;19504808]To be honest.... I'm still not sure
I want a quad core, but i know i dont need one.
If I get a dual core, well i already have one of those! SO maybe i should try the format and clean up first before i spend £3-400 and see if the speed improves any.
I am hoping for a moment of clarity at some point this evening![/QUOTE]
Get a Quad.
Yes, I use dual screen at the moment (laptop and separate monitor) so have a monitor, although cant be without dual for long so will have to look at that at some point soon.
Usage, generally have several webpages open at same time and usually asking them all to look for stuff at the same time. Also have word, excel, access, sometimes dreamweaver, outlook and web mail open, down loading in the background (although i try to set timers for that to do overnight, but not always possible.)
Doesn't sound like much i know, but the current system just cant cope with being asked to do so many things at once and gets irritatingly slow.
if by your current system you mean your laptop then that's okay because laptops are way slower and more unstable than desktops.
The build I suggested is pretty good. Buy only 2GB of RAM. (And in time if you see that you want more out of your system buy another one same as this.)
The applications you are running (even if all them are open in one instance ;) ) should not be a problem for the cpu i suggested.
But if you insist buy a quad core. it's your call :P I'd go with a quad core as well.
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