California Sues Everyone - Polidicks

[quote]SACRAMENTO (CBS SF) – The State of California has filed a civil case against anyone willing to challenge $8.6 billion in voter-approved bonds for the high-speed rail project. According to a report in the San Jose Mercury News, the state has issued the legal challenge as a pre-emptive move to prove the legitimacy of issuing bonds to pay for the initial phase of high-speed rail construction this summer.[/quote] [url=http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/03/28/california-sues-everyone-over-funding-of-high-speed-rail/]READ MORE[/url]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40089135].[/QUOTE] ok op prepare your wallet [editline]29th March 2013[/editline] watch as fp gets sued

[QUOTE=J!NX;40089145]ok op prepare your wallet [editline]29th March 2013[/editline] watch as fp gets sued[/QUOTE] oh fuck oh fuck garry's going to be poor

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40089185]oh fuck oh fuck garry's going to be poor[/QUOTE] play gmod while its a thing guys RIP

This Is a good thing honestly. I could go from la to sf in less than 3

Things just haven't been the same after AHNOLD left.

[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;40089231]This Is a good thing honestly. I could go from la to sf in less than 3[/QUOTE] ... and it would cost you as much as a plane ticket and take 3x as long while also costing billions to build and billions more to sustain forever. I believe the original cost that was given to tax payers on the ballot was around 3 billion, but has now risen to over 8 billion.

[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;40089231]This Is a good thing honestly. I could go from la to sf in less than 3[/QUOTE] Except they haven't secured the rights to any land outside of the Central Valley yet. I believe one of the railroad companies put a giant cockblock on the proposed route near the Bay Area IIRC.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40089135][/QUOTE] Never stopped anyone

State practically bankrupt? Check (Passenger) trains next to useless due to sprawl? Check High speed label applied even though they will go as slow as normal trains? Check No customers, route, business plan? Check, check, and check. Everything seems to be in order- time to spend 8 billion more (I wonder if construction workers mind being paid with IOU's)

[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;40089231]This Is a good thing honestly. I could go from la to sf in less than 3[/QUOTE] 3 what?

[QUOTE=JerryK;40095615]3 what?[/QUOTE] Hours, minutes, Large Bic Mac menu's, Handjobs, eternities.

What a complete waste. So many cities are bypassing having it stop there, that it is almost useless. And it isn't "high speed" It is just a more direct connection than what is already available.

FYI, The [B]actual[/B] high speed rail from San Francisco to LA has been in the planning phase for 10 years and hasn't started construction yet.

Lets challenge it

[QUOTE=Van-man;40095710]Hours, minutes, Large Bic Mac menu's, Handjobs, eternities.[/QUOTE] it usually takes me 3 and a half blowjobs.

But seriously, another case of the government using force to break democracy and threaten opposition to people not alligned with it's goals. :eng101:

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so uh, besides the retard above, HSR sounds like a good idea on paper but in reality it's probably going to fall flat.

From all I've heard, HSR doesn't seem to have much of a place in the states. Aircraft are cheaper and faster, and for everything else we have roads and highways. If I recall correctly, our existing rail transit systems are already overpriced and underused, and HSR are more expensive than they are.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40098736]From all I've heard, HSR doesn't seem to have much of a place in the states. Aircraft are cheaper and faster, and for everything else we have roads and highways. If I recall correctly, our existing rail transit systems are already overpriced and underused, and HSR are more expensive than they are.[/QUOTE] You'd have to deal with the TSA when travelling by airplane though.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40098736]From all I've heard, HSR doesn't seem to have much of a place in the states. Aircraft are cheaper and faster, and for everything else we have roads and highways. If I recall correctly, our existing rail transit systems are already overpriced and underused, and HSR are more expensive than they are.[/QUOTE] This shouldn't be the situation though. You shouldn't be flying the sort of distances over land that you guys do, trains are designed for that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40097775]But seriously, another case of the government using force to break democracy and threaten opposition to people not alligned with it's goals. :eng101:[/QUOTE] Did you not read the article. They know people are going to challenge it so they already organized "High-Speed Rail Authority v. All Persons Interested” so people can fight it in one large case.

[QUOTE=Jsm;40099343]This shouldn't be the situation though. You shouldn't be flying the sort of distances over land that you guys do, trains are designed for that sort of thing.[/QUOTE] Well, California is managing to turn an A - B railway project into an 8 billion dollar monster, nearly 3x as much as the original budget. They could build an airport to service every state around them with that money, instead of a linear track that hardly services the cities it's in. This ontop of California not being in the best financial shape, and the operating and usage costs being more than what it would be for air travel, plus the question of exactly how many people will actually use it. It just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

[QUOTE=Van-man;40099265]You'd have to deal with the TSA when travelling by airplane though.[/QUOTE] You'd have to deal with them on a rail system too. They're the [B]Transportation[/B] Security Administration.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40100126]Well, California is managing to turn an A - B railway project into an 8 billion dollar monster, nearly 3x as much as the original budget. They could build an airport to service every state around them with that money, instead of a linear track that hardly services the cities it's in. This ontop of California not being in the best financial shape, and the operating and usage costs being more than what it would be for air travel, plus the question of exactly how many people will actually use it. It just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.[/QUOTE] Okay, that is a very good argument to use aircraft! I guess this is the problem with building anything these days, someone is going to want to inflate the price at every stage.

If we're going to spend 8+ billion dollars we might as well just kid nap Elon Musk and make him build us a Hyperloop. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop[/url]

So, to prove the legitimacy of their claims, they threaten to sue anyone who challenges them? Isn't that, like, how Apple proves the legitimacy of their claims?

[QUOTE=Jsm;40100206]Okay, that is a very good argument to use aircraft! I guess this is the problem with building anything these days, someone is going to want to inflate the price at every stage.[/QUOTE] I'm not against trains, but in this country, aircraft are just more cost efficient for everyone.