Arizona state trooper detective forced to resign from her 10 year career after reveal she illegally
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[quote](CNN) -- All her life, Carmen Figueroa believed she was born in the United States. It was what her mother had always told her.
But a State Department investigation found that she was born in Sinaloa, Mexico, and brought into the country illegally at a young age, CNN affiliate KVOA reported. The discovery brought an abrupt end to Figueroa's 10-year career with the Arizona state police.
Figueroa, 42, was forced to resign or be fired. Under Arizona law, an undocumented immigrant cannot be a peace officer.
Her record as an officer included praise and promotions.
The case is a reminder of how the country's immigration laws can turn lives upside down. It raises questions about how potential public employees are screened, and how easily facts about something as basic as a birthplace can be obscured.
"She was great, well-liked. The whole thing is a sad story," said Bart Graves, a spokesman for the Arizona Department of Public Safety.
Figueroa had joined the force as a highway patrol officer 10 years ago and became a detective in 2010.
The detective likely would have continued to serve if not for the State Department investigation.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/arizona-police-undocumented-detective/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1[/url]
that'll send a lesson to all those babies out there thinking of doing the same
HERE THIS, INFANT ALIENS, [I]WE WILL FIND YOU, YOU CANNOT HIDE FOREVER.[/I]
Can there be a special provision in the lawmaking system for common fucking sense? This isn't the most prominent example, but there are so many cases of dumb shit happening because somebody was overly anal about following a law regardless of reality.
Such bullshit. There should be a cut-off point at which those laws no longer apply.
[QUOTE=Reds;43170317]Can there be a special provision in the lawmaking system for common fucking sense? This isn't the most prominent example, but there are so many cases of dumb shit happening because somebody was overly anal about following a law regardless of reality.[/QUOTE]
Knowing Arizona, the whole law was meant for things like this.
Babies these days have no respect for geopolitical borders.
It turns out you were born in another country, despite living here your whole life and not knowing otherwise: fired immediately.
Stuff a dog in a car specifically to attack someone surrendering: cleared of all wrongdoing.
we sure have a great law enforcement system here guys
Are there no provisions to allow her to stay in law enforcement? I'm pretty sure if you're illegal its possible to get citizenship through military service.
[QUOTE=markfu;43170569]Are there no provisions to allow her to stay in law enforcement? I'm pretty sure if you're illegal its possible to get citizenship through military service.[/QUOTE]
Law enforcement is purely a civil service, not military though.
Unless you're trying to say this [I]42 year old[/I] woman ought to join the military to get her job back.
This is ridiculous, the law turns a blind (or sympathetic) eye when their own commit abuses of power, but they're happy to enforce the law when it's something innocuous like this?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43170360]Babies these days have no respect for geopolitical borders.[/QUOTE]
Then that is another thing I have in common with babies.
Justice
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;43170708]This is ridiculous, the law turns a blind (or sympathetic) eye when their own commit abuses of power, but they're happy to enforce the law when it's something innocuous like this?[/QUOTE]
our legal system is corrupt
fucking unamerican scum. how dare she think she can work in the most prestigious position on the globe with [i]unclean blood[/i]
America is so unrealistic
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;43170309]HERE THIS, INFANT ALIENS, [I]WE WILL FIND YOU, YOU CANNOT HIDE FOREVER.[/I][/QUOTE]
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[I]THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE.[/I]
wouldn't she be a naturalized citizen if she was in-country for so long, i'm not sure?
[QUOTE=Reds;43170317]Can there be a special provision in the lawmaking system for common fucking sense? This isn't the most prominent example, but there are so many cases of dumb shit happening because somebody was overly anal about following a law regardless of reality.[/QUOTE]
i'm fairly certain under federal law there is a provision that gives her amnesty because she was brought here against her will or she was unable to decide for herself at the time
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fucking arizona, i know you are dealing with it more than other states, but you don't have to be fucking xenophobes for it
[QUOTE] It raises questions about how potential public employees are screened, and how easily facts about something as basic as a birthplace can be obscured.[/QUOTE]
And no questions regarding the morality of the application of this law in cases like this? Apparently not.
[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;43170844]wouldn't she be a naturalized citizen if she was in-country for so long, i'm not sure?[/QUOTE]
It often really doesn't make sense to me.
Why should somebody be born there? She's competent enough at the job and has a good life there. What problems has she caused by being "illegal"?
Same with birthers. I mean, even if Obama was born in Kenya, should anybody really give a shit?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43170592]Law enforcement is purely a civil service, not military though.
Unless you're trying to say this [I]42 year old[/I] woman ought to join the military to get her job back.[/QUOTE]
No I'm just surprised there's no precedent in giving citizenship to illegal immigrants who join a government agency.
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Especially considering her reasons.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43170919]It often really doesn't make sense to me.
Why should somebody be born there? She's competent enough at the job and has a good life there. What problems has she caused by being "illegal"?
Same with birthers. I mean, even if Obama was born in Kenya, should anybody really give a shit?[/QUOTE]
exactly, she's serving her community and making a contribution to society and her country, she deserves citizenship
it's really unfortunate
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43170919]It often really doesn't make sense to me.
Why should somebody be born there? She's competent enough at the job and has a good life there. What problems has she caused by being "illegal"?
Same with birthers. I mean, even if Obama was born in Kenya, should anybody really give a shit?[/QUOTE]
She's also paying taxes, doing everything a good citizen does, and helping the community. Frankly, anyone who does that should be welcomed wherever they fucking are.
Arizona just doesn't want police officers who might be sympathetic to illegal immigrants because the whole state is currently in the process of making sure human rights don't apply to them
[QUOTE=markfu;43170929]No I'm just surprised there's no precedent in giving citizenship to illegal immigrants who join a government agency.
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Especially considering her reasons.[/QUOTE]
There probably might be if it was a federal agency. But this is a state agency and it probably varies a lot by states.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43170919]It often really doesn't make sense to me.
Why should somebody be born there? She's competent enough at the job and has a good life there. What problems has she caused by being "illegal"?
Same with birthers. I mean, even if Obama was born in Kenya, should anybody really give a shit?[/QUOTE]
its really funny because only the natives are born of non-immigrant ancestors, and immigrant workers founded america, and immigrants really changed the country into the so called "Mixing bowl of races"
Unless you count native americans coming from when the continents touched due to ice or something, but that's getting really shitty about it. Everyone seems to have originated in africa.
People here are overreacting. She was not fired. She was going to be put on paid leave. She resigned rather then going on leave.
She had options here and for some reason she choose what is IMO the worst one by resigning.
I think one thing people has to consider is that babies and children are very young, if they emigrated but somehow stayed in a new country for large amount of time to acquire things such as money, property and whatever, shouldn't they at least give lenience towards them?
I mean if they were forced back to where they were conceived, the cultural shock is probably going to be large, not to mention things like language. isn't Naturalization a thing? she's been in the country for 42 years after all.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43170592]Law enforcement is purely a civil service, not military though.
Unless you're trying to say this [I]42 year old[/I] woman ought to join the military to get her job back.[/QUOTE]
Not all military jobs are physically intensive. Not saying she should join the military though
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43170745]Then that is another thing I have in common with babies.[/QUOTE]
relevance?
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