When I play 'heavy' games, my pc sometimes crashes with a black screen (every 15 minutes or so, but it depends on the game) and it gives a long and 2 short beeps afterwards.
I run my games on:
windows 7 64x
Mobo: MSI MS-7616
Intel Core i5-750, 3166 MHz (24 x 132) (OEM 14% overclocked)
Nvidia GTX 560ti (Club 3D 2gb Vram)
8gb RAM
And a 700W Club 3D PSU
I have searched on the web for help, but nothing has worked so far. First I thought it was an overheating problem, so I upped my fans with MSI Afterburner to maximum when my temperature hits 70 degrees Celsius, but I still have the crash every now and then. ANd logging my data showed me that the crashes occur at random temperatures. Sometimes it happened at 60 degrees, and the other time at 85. But with my fans running at maximum my temperature stays at 74 degrees.
Later I read something about my voltage, so I upped that with 50 mV but it still crashed. Afterwards I set it to the 1150 V max in Afterburner, but the only difference was that my GPU temperature raised a lot faster. Keeping the voltage at its minimum, 950 mV or forcing a constant voltage also did nothing. Overclocking and underclocking my gpu also did nothing.
My computer crashed at Bioshock infinite every now and then, and it crashes a lot with Tomb Raider. And at a certain point in Bioshock Infinite it always crashed, but after 10 times trying I finally got past it. I am having the same with Tomb Raider now when Lara is going to grab a parachute a moment before she is falling through the window of the plane, but I haven't got past that part yet. All game-crashes are resulting in a long short short beep.
Internet tells me that it is a video ram problem, but I don't really know how to do anything about it since everything else works great. I almost never have problems with my GPU, only with the latest games. Although crysis 3 only crashed once in the entire game.
So, is this a Nvidia driver problem (I have the newest 314.22) or is there something wrong with my GPU?
Thanks :)
P.S. Eventviewer says nothing, only a critical error because the pc shutdown was unexpected.
It's usually best practice to not mess with the voltages unless you know what you are doing, though.
Tried making sure the cables are all connected properly yet?
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;40325497]It's usually best practice to not mess with the voltages unless you know what you are doing, though.
Tried making sure the cables are all connected properly yet?[/QUOTE]
I finally got further in Tomb Raider by underclocking my GPU´s memory speed by 5% and I had to quit the game for the first time in stead of the computer crashing :P
I don't know if it has solved my problem because I haven't played that much today. So I will check the cables tomorrow. But I don't think anything is wrong with them because a most of my games run without any problem. It's only Bioshock Inf and Tomb Raider who cause problems, but they are also the 'heaviest' games I have played.
I know that Tomb Raider had major issues with Nvidia cards. make sure you update to the latest drivers and see if there is a Tomb Raider patch out.
[QUOTE=Drumdevil;40335609]I know that Tomb Raider had major issues with Nvidia cards. make sure you update to the latest drivers and see if there is a Tomb Raider patch out.[/QUOTE]
I know Tomb Raider has major issues, but I asked it because Bioshock Infinite, Deus Ex HR, Hydrophobia: Prophecy and some other games have this too. The worst case was in Hydrophobia, I couldn't play for more than 15 minutes.
Today I also checked all the cables and even took my GPU out of my pc. I blew compressed air in the case so all the dust is gone too. Lets see if it did something.
A black screen could also indicate that the GFX card stops working because of a lack of power. The PSU brand seems fine, but it could be faulty.
Checking the cables did nothing. But I tried to turn on TresFX which lowers my fps by 10 frames. And my GPU crashed a few minutes afterwards while I had an hour long session before it. So it is related to how hard the GPU is working. But I am a graphics geek so I prefer to play everything as maxed out as possible. So I guess it's a power shortage, or a Nvidia driver failure.
Guess I'll have to live with the crashes then
Best thing you can try to do is to nail down if the GPU is at failure point. Do you have any other GPU laying around?
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40430515]Best thing you can try to do is to nail down if the GPU is at fault here, you have any other GPU around?[/QUOTE]
I had a GT 240 on the same mobo. That one never had any problems, but it didn't need to be connected to your psu like the GTX560ti.
Also, how long do you have your GPU running at this temperature?
I read a very interesting answer which question was bothering me the whole time.
[url]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/310988-28-high-temperature-idle[/url]
''Thermal paste must be applied to the cpu if the old paste was removed. The paste helps transfer heat from the cpu to the heatsink by covering the small imperfections in the heatsink. No paste will definitely make the cpu overheat, thus creating a hard system shut down to prevent damage. Make sure to install a small amount of paste then reseat the heatsink on to the cpu.
Next thing would be to clean up your case and components with compressed air. Lastly, what is the ambient air temp because this will factor in to how much cooling your fans can achieve.
[B]Your cpu can handle up to 71.4C temps (anything higher is definitely going to shorten its lifespan or cause premature failure).[/B]''
This does have something to do with a CPU though, but I don't think a GPU core likes being exposed at high temperatures for a a lot of times.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40430571]Also, how long do you have your GPU running at this temperature?
I read a very interesting answer which question was bothering me the whole time.
[url]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/310988-28-high-temperature-idle[/url]
''Thermal paste must be applied to the cpu if the old paste was removed. The paste helps transfer heat from the cpu to the heatsink by covering the small imperfections in the heatsink. No paste will definitely make the cpu overheat, thus creating a hard system shut down to prevent damage. Make sure to install a small amount of paste then reseat the heatsink on to the cpu.
Next thing would be to clean up your case and components with compressed air. Lastly, what is the ambient air temp because this will factor in to how much cooling your fans can achieve.
[B]Your cpu can handle up to 71.4C temps (anything higher is definitely going to shorten its lifespan or cause premature failure).[/B]''
This does have something to do with a CPU though, but I don't think a GPU core likes being exposed at high temperatures for a a lot of times.[/QUOTE]
It has crashed on 60 degrees too, while other times it reaches 93 (I was testing if it was temperature related so turned my fans down. When it hit 93 I Alttabbed out of the game and upped my fans to max) So I don't really think it is temperature related.
My cpu is my old one, this one has never been out of my motherboard and my old pc was bought in a store. My cpu is usually around 40 degrees when I'm playing games so I guess that's not the problem. And my bios beeps for a Video ram failure so it has to be my gpu.
I cleaned my pc with compressed air last week ;)
Last time with Tomb Raider with my fans maxed out it kept my gpu steady at maximum of 74 degrees. But my gpu has been running well at higher temperatures too, before I started using afterburner because of the crashes I had the fan speed on default. Which only was 60% speed at 85 degrees. Now I have them at 75% (the maximum) at 75 degrees.
[QUOTE=remy561;40430675]It has crashed on 60 degrees too, while other times it reaches 93 (I was testing if it was temperature related so turned my fans down. When it hit 93 I Alttabbed out of the game and upped my fans to max) So I don't really think it is temperature related.
My cpu is my old one, this one has never been out of my motherboard and my old pc was bought in a store. My cpu is usually around 40 degrees when I'm playing games so I guess that's not the problem. And my bios beeps for a Video ram failure so it has to be my gpu.
I cleaned my pc with compressed air last week ;)
Last time with Tomb Raider with my fans maxed out it kept my gpu steady at maximum of 74 degrees. But my gpu has been running well at higher temperatures too, before I started using afterburner because of the crashes I had the fan speed on default. Which only was 60% speed at 85 degrees. Now I have them at 75% (the maximum) at 75 degrees.[/QUOTE]
But let's be serious, when I want my GPU to get THIS hot I would have to stress CPU and GPU on 100% load for over a hour. I was playing Black Mesa for 4 hours or something like that and the peak hold for my GPU was 44 degrees Celsius and CPU 42 degrees Celsius.
But as why I mentioned the temperature, when a GPU would be exposed to high temperatures on practically every user session, it could cause damage overtime.
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[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40434995]But let's be serious, when I want my GPU to get THIS hot I would have to stress CPU and GPU on 100% load for over a hour. I was playing Black Mesa for 4 hours or something like that and the peak hold for my GPU was 44 degrees Celsius and CPU 42 degrees Celsius.
But as why I mentioned the temperature, when a GPU would be exposed to high temperatures on practically every user session, it could cause damage overtime.[/QUOTE]
I have been playing Saints Row 3 for 3 hours now with logging on. My GPU temperature went from 39 degrees to 71 in 5 minutes. And it kept a steady 71 to 74 degrees in between. It was working at 98% all the time, no crashes.
I have been thinking about the games that have crashed/are crashing. It seems they all have DX11. But Saints Row 3 has it too and that one didn't crash, but I have underclocked my memory speed with 5%. I'm going to test Tomb Raider with it tomorrow.
Sorry for my late response, a lot of life stuff has happened this week.
I've been testing Tomb Raider Multiplayer on my default GPU settings and I couldn't even complete a round (10 minutes) without crashing. Afterwards I underclocked my memory slightly (5%) and tried the MP again. This time I finished an entire match (30 minutes). So I think that the default memory clock is too high for my GPU to handle, although it is the same as the Nvidia set default clock.
The problem being my memory clock is logical because the bios beeps tell me that my VRAM had a problem.
I'm going to test some more when I have the time.
Allright, after a lot of testing it seems underclocking does nothing. I have the feeling it does make the game crash less, though. But still, crashes.
I give up, I really don't know what to do to fix it.
I just got another crash with The Witcher 1, while I've been playing that game for 15 hours or so and had a 3 hour session in between. It really seems like random crashing. It isn't a DX11 related crash, so it would probably be power related. Since The Witcher 1 makes my card run at 98%.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;40827795]bring it bitch Ill fight you in a map one of these guys made[/QUOTE]
Mate i'll crash your face in like this guy's computer unless you quit playin games
I have a friend which has overheating issues too.
Best thing you can try is to re-apply thermal paste between the GPU core and the cooler itself.
Your GPU doesn't hit the critical temperature though, but you still want to get high temperatures solved.
'Cause it [B]will[/B] definitely shorten your hardware's lifespan.
Well it isn't really an overheating issue, because the crashes appear at random temperatures. When I was still logging it crashed at 50 degrees too. It's only at some games, but all those games do require the card to work pretty hard. Tomb Raider was almost unplayable, every 20 minutes a crash, but other new games have a crash every 4 a 5 hours or so. The Witcher has only crashed once in 25 hours.
I really don't know what it is, and when I come across a game with a lot of crashes again I will look into opening up my GPU. For now, it does it's job while keeping the temperature at a steady 74/75 degrees while gaming. When I'm doing nothing GPU heavy the temperature is mostly 35 degrees.
it's probably your GPU dying.
this happened with my GTX 280 until I couldn't boot unless I restarted about 50 times on random temperatures. I could play RE5 and Metro: Last Light without crashing but that made it overheat to 100+ degrees.
[QUOTE=psyjill;40922151]it's probably your GPU dying.
this happened with my GTX 280 until I couldn't boot unless I restarted about 50 times on random temperatures. I could play RE5 and Metro: Last Light without crashing but that made it overheat to 100+ degrees.[/QUOTE]
I only have crashes when I play games and almost every game runs fine. Only a few seem to cause crashes. My bios always a video ram error beepcode. My GPU never really overheats, the maximum I've seen with fans turned on (ofcourse) is 84 degrees. But now I've set my fans a lot higher and since then the maximum was 76 degrees. I've read on the nvidia site that the new cards have a temperature 'target' of 80 degrees while gaming. So 76 is pretty normal.
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