"eople have no right to hold out for the job of their dreams while they are on unemployment benefits - Polidicks

[IMG]http://images.smh.com.au/2014/05/24/5452581/1400900128003.jpg-620x349.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Prime Minister Tony Abbott has declared that people on unemployment benefits have "no right" to hold out for their dream job and should take any position they are reasonably able to do. "If there is a job available you don't really have the option of failing to accept it if the alternative is life on unemployment benefits," Mr Abbott said in South Australia on Saturday. "A condition of receiving unemployment benefits in this country under both Labor and Liberal governments has been that you've got to look for work and you've got to accept any work that you can reasonably do." Under changes announced in the Abbott government's first budget, people up to 30 years old will have to wait six months for unemployment benefits and then will have to work for the dole. The changes are expected to take effect in 2015. Mr Abbott's comments come after the Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews told Fairfax Media that "the best way to get the job you want is to have a job in the first place". Asked if he supported Mr Andrews' remarks, Mr Abbott said: "People have no right to hold out for the job of their dreams while they are on unemployment benefits. They have to accept any job that they can reasonably do that is offered to them, and frankly that is the least...that people should be prepared to do under those circumstances." The Prime Minister defended the "tough decisions" the government had taken in the budget as the Opposition, the Greens and the Palmer United Party threaten to block parts of it in the Senate. "We believe in this budget," he said. "We believe that the measures are absolutely necessary for the long-term strength of our country and we intend to get these measures through." He said he was "confident" the Coalition would get its budget through the upper house. Read more: [URL]http://www.smh.com.au/national/unemployed-have-no-right-to-hold-out-for-dream-job-pm-tony-abbott-20140524-zrn26.html#ixzz32neNT9zP[/URL][/QUOTE]

Well then, I'll just go apply to the phone sex hotline job.

This is the first thing from Abbott that I have ever agreed with.

[QUOTE=Zet;44911293]Well then, I'll just go apply to the phone sex hotline job.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qjKzC9K.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44911298][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qjKzC9K.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] so that's what the red telephone was for between russia-usa

speaking of unemployment you should be on it you cunt

I'm sure there is a caveat in the legislation somewhere. [editline]26th May 2014[/editline] He can't have done something right. It's not possible.

This is already a thing centrelink wants you to do. If you screw up your chance for getting suitable employment, you will get a warning on your account. However, they don't care if you work one shift and then quit.

[QUOTE=Eonart;44911455] Does this mean I'm getting fucked over when this gets into effect?[/QUOTE] There will always be allowances made for those who cannot work due to legitimate reasons. Simply not wanting a particular job is not good enough though.

As much as I'm against the Abbott Government I will agree on him with this one

I kinda sorta agree on him. People leeching off benefits programs is a real problem. It's sapping resources from people who genuinely need them. Whether his approach is the right one or not I do not know, however.

[QUOTE=Eonart;44911455]I can't reasonably do any work that's available to me because of a severe physical problem and the majority of entry level jobs involve physical work I can't do because of my problem and stuff like desk jobs are incredibly competitive because I'm a dropout with no real qualifications having to compete with people that are several times more qualified. Hell, even Centrelink says I don't need to be looking for work right now for my dole. Does this mean I'm getting fucked over when this gets into effect?[/QUOTE] If you're on the disability pension then you won't need to 'work' for it, but if you're collecting unemployed benefits then I really don't know.

in the us Arizona require you to find work to get benefits but idk about the other states

Thank god I'm not eople. Also, all of this stuff regardings HECS Loans and Uni Fee's are fucked, fuck you Tony.

this is objectively true, but people love to hate abbott so much that they'll just senselessly disagree with him i am by no means a liberal supporter, but he's right on the money this time. get your heads out of your asses

My ex had to go to a job search workshop every Tuesday to get her payments. They went through and had to apply for 10 jobs each Tuesday and record evidence they are looking for them. From what I understand now the new difference is that they will have to do this for 6 months before they get benefits?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44911298][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qjKzC9K.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Did someone clone putin and fail?

I like this part. [quote]"A condition of receiving unemployment benefits in this country under both Labor and Liberal governments has been that you've got to look for work and you've got to accept any work that you can reasonably do."[/quote] I have a friend whose currently on Centrelink unemployment and yes one of the conditions is that you need to find work, and Centrelink is supposed to help you, act as an unemployment agency and give you offers. Except with my friend Centrelink has said for the past year and a half "We'll get too it soon", they've never once helped him. They're supposed to call him when they're ready but they never do and that's what he gets whenever he asks about it. He's found a few jobs in the meantime but has never really lasted long at one.

Well I can agree with him for once. Unemployed people really shouldn't be passing potential job opportunities, wasting tax dollars, just because they can't find their dream job. But saying that, I do support unemployed people receiving assistance to help them get back in the work force, but I don't support un-successful searchers having to be without financial assistance for six months. That's completely absurd. [editline]26th May 2014[/editline] Anyways, I was briefly considered unemployed by Centrelink before I could have my eligibility for youth allowance cleared up. The system is useless. Centrelink referred me to sign up with a job seeking service, fair enough, but when I did that I was told by the lady who served me that I could 'expect another interview in 3 months, and after that we'll send job applications to you'. Like, what the fuck? If unemployed people aren't going to be helped to find work for three months, while they aren't being given financial support, the proposed legislation will severely fail to bring any positive social outcome.

[QUOTE=Eonart;44911855]It doesn't count as a disability so I don't get disability pension.[/QUOTE] Uh, then what is your damage?

[QUOTE=mchapra;44911759]Did someone clone putin and fail?[/QUOTE] He always more of reminds me of [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FEpPiVB.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Eonart;44911855]It doesn't count as a disability so I don't get disability pension.[/QUOTE] [quote]ASK ME ABOUT THE SLUTTY CAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE INSIDE MY HEAD[/quote] [QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;44911909]Uh, then what is your damage?[/QUOTE] I am afraid of the answer.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44912028]He always more of reminds me of [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FEpPiVB.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I'd post what i'd think of him too, but i can't post a picture of a fucking cunt in this thread. Also, i kinda agree that people should be waiting for a job they like just for the convenience of doing work that they like.

The assumption is that there are jobs out there for the young unemployed. The assumption is incorrect. Even worse is when you have[URL="http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/young-and-without-work-take-up-fruit-picking-says-liberal-senator-eric-abetz-20140526-38xmb.html"] Liberal members calling out[/URL] saying that they should be doing things like picking apples, working for below minimum wage. It's a joke. Sure it might sound reasonable what he is saying, but the situation makes it otherwise.

And how does this help? Then we get a lot of people just constantly shifting work because they didn't find a job they like or have the motivation and interrest to work in, so they just hop from job to job with no time to look up a job they'd enjoy. The thing is, a lot of people in unemployment are not there by choice. And a lot of upper class people and politicians around the world seem to disregard that completely. Unemployed people can, in many cases, consist of people that have "recently" been fired, and no longer have any more "credit" to sustain themselves. But that's not all. More often than not, it also consists of people who have other disabilities, such as severe depression (of some kind, there are literally hundreds of different types of depression, if not more), severe stress, not to mention severe anxieties. To mention a few of the most prominent ones. Then we've got people with physical disabilities they've been born with, that prevent them from doing a lot of work. This isn't to say ALL work, but a lot of work. To add to that, we've got people that have somehow been injured in one way or another, either "actively" or "passively" (possibly in a previous job), that are no longer able to sustain the kind of physical press they would go through. Beyond that, there's the problematic opinion that if we just get people in a work they'll save the state unemployment money. And in the short term, that might be true. But what then, after a few months, or a year of working a shit job they can't sustain and they end back in unemployment? What then? Shouldn't the people who have issues be given all the help they can to deal with those issues, and if possible also treat them? That way, you can probably get them back on the job market permanently, instead of temporarily. Here in Denmark, our Jobcenters are quick to just push people out in some kind of activity, be that education, jobs, or just painting buckets for no goddamn reason other than to get them to do SOMETHING. But what about the people that have severe issues of some kind that prevent them from keeping up these activities? They just end back in unemployment again, again, and again. Hell, here we've got people that've been stuck in the system for 10 years because the unemployment rate is too low for them to pay for any help themselves, and the Jobcentres just keep pushing them into more shit which may in a long run worsen their situations. This is fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=Eonart;44912149]Right leg is fucked up. Can't go very long doing anything with it without starting to tremor but my left leg is fine and dandy. I've been going to doctors about it and it's a serious problem. Old ass title. I've said it in another thread that I'm past that now and I want my title changed.[/QUOTE] Then go to the doctors and get them to give you papers on your leg problem and then show it to the people taking care of unemployment benefit. If it really is a problem they shouldn't be able to force you to take jobs where you are in pain and/or ruin your leg more.

fuck abbott zing But really, I imagine he stuttered trying to get out this opinion though. Good thing it's written down or people would have to sit there for a minute piecing together what he said through the uhm's and ah's. But yeah he's right on this point. And even better, apparently the higher tax on higher income is going through, but the senate is blocking changes to uni, medicare and another thing that I forgot about! That's actually great news for once. Except for what I forgot about, but it's good. That's all I remember d:

First: hillarious: budget assumes unemployment is going to worsen, so the liberal party expects there aren't enough jobs, except their rhetoric says "there is a job out there!!!" Second: Facepunch is frustratingly far behind the political news cycle in Australia and we just end up a Tony hating machine anyway. I don't get the rationale behind posting Australian news articles of this sort other than to get people from other countries to come in and laugh at us. Having larger and more broad political based threads makes more sense to me.

[QUOTE=Lemmingston;44912218] But really, I imagine he stuttered trying to get out this opinion though. Good thing it's written down or people would have to sit there for a minute piecing together what he said through the uhm's and ah's. But yeah he's right on this point. And even better, apparently the higher tax on higher income is going through, but the senate is blocking changes to uni, medicare and another thing that I forgot about! That's actually great news for once. Except for what I forgot about, but it's good. That's all I remember d:[/QUOTE] Yeah it's great news that certain parts of Abbott's policy is going through, because its all sooooo good... isn't it?

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