we live in 2014 and shit like this is still going on
why would you do this
Is this just a culture thing or did gaming shoot itself in the foot with a bazooka?
[QUOTE=Rossy167;45272676]Is this just a culture thing[/QUOTE]
How does that make it ok?
[QUOTE=Rossy167;45272676]Is this just a culture thing or did gaming shoot itself in the foot with a bazooka?[/QUOTE]
They tried to rocket jump for the stars but ended up going straight into the sun
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;45272766]How does that make it ok?[/QUOTE]
He's not saying it does.
This is retarded. It's a God damn card game. "no gurls allowed, gurls arnt legit"
This is just idiotic, they're almost on par with mlg on the shit scale now.
[QUOTE=DeEz;45272362]we live in 2014 and shit like this is still going on
why would you do this[/QUOTE]
Because korea.
Someone should ban South Koreans in (joke)response with the reason [i]"Being South Korean is an unfair advantage equivalent to Doping. Therefore we have decided to ban South Koreans to promote a fair and equal sport."[/i]
esports
is
not
sports
there's a very obvious reason why men and women are separate in actual real sports
How can people think like this and not see the stupidity?
People are only looking at the surface level and deciding the people in charge are sexist, when in fact they're just dumb and slaves to sports conventions in order to seem legitimate. They reason that a lot of real sports have separate men's and women's leagues, so if they do the same with esports they'll be like a real sport. Only problem of course is that while that makes sense for physical sports because the physical structure of men and women are different, with video games there's not a lot of physical exertion.
Don't blame them for being sexist though, just blame them for being spineless and stupid.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;45274744]People are only looking at the surface level and deciding the people in charge are sexist, when in fact they're just dumb and slaves to sports conventions in order to seem legitimate. They reason that a lot of real sports have separate men's and women's leagues, so if they do the same with esports they'll be like a real sport. Only problem of course is that while that makes sense for physical sports because the physical structure of men and women are different, with video games there's not a lot of physical exertion.
Don't blame them for being sexist though, just blame them for being spineless and stupid.[/QUOTE]
[quote]"Your information is indeed correct, the tournament is open to Finnish male players only," said Markus "Olodyn" Koskivirta, head admin of the Assembly Summer 2014 Hearthstone IeSF Qualifier, in a statement to PC Gamer. "In accordance with the International e-Sports Federation's (IeSF) tournament regulations, since the main tournament event is open to male players only. [B]This is to avoid possible conflicts (e.g. a female player eliminating a male player during RO8) among other things[/B]."[/quote]
[url]http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/02/hearthstone-tournament/[/url]
don't forget about this part
nope, we can't have women in our tournament or else the fucking manchildren will cry and throw tantrums if they lose to them.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45275811][url]http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/02/hearthstone-tournament/[/url]
don't forget about this part
nope, we can't have women in our tournament or else the fucking manchildren will cry and throw tantrums if they lose to them.[/QUOTE]
Please don't cherrypick, the reason for it is due to this being a qualifier for a tournament in korea, which doesn't allow female players. It has nothing to do with "manchildren" that will throw "tantrums" in the tournament. I know it's hard for you, but please do try to read the entire article before throwing out insults randomly like you usually do.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45275865]Please don't cherrypick, the reason for it is due to this being a qualifier for a tournament in korea, which doesn't allow female players. It has nothing to do with "manchildren" that will throw "tantrums" in the tournament. I know it's hard for you, but please do try to read the entire article before throwing out insults randomly like you usually do.[/QUOTE]No, that is exactly what it is. It's entirely ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45275917]No, that is exactly what it is. It's entirely ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it is ridiculous, but it has nothing to do with people getting bitter about losing to a woman in a game. It has to do with the winner winning a spot in the other tournament, and the other tournament going by the korean tournament regulation of male only participants.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45275865]Please don't cherrypick, the reason for it is due to this being a qualifier for a tournament in korea, which doesn't allow female players. It has nothing to do with "manchildren" that will throw "tantrums" in the tournament. I know it's hard for you, but please do try to read the entire article before throwing out insults randomly like you usually do.[/QUOTE]
please dont insult sexist tournament organizers arbitrarily. pls respect their feelings and treat them fairly instead of discriminating against them
Bullshit I play like nothing but hearthstone these days!
The sad part is you'd assume this would be a PR disaster or this would be essentially shooting themselves in the foot but tbh nobody's going to care, attitudes won't be changed anytime soon, and buisness will go on as usual. Maybe they might even be sponsored by A Voice of Men or something lol.
Also "this move was done to further esports as a legitimate sport" ??? how does sexism further anything. at least in real sports you can explain why there's different men and women leagues.
[QUOTE=Paige;45276117]Bullshit I play like nothing but hearthstone these days!
The sad part is you'd assume this would be a PR disaster or this would be essentially shooting themselves in the foot but tbh nobody's going to care, attitudes won't be changed anytime soon, and buisness will go on as usual. Maybe they might even be sponsored by A Voice of Men or something lol.
Also "this move was done to further esports as a legitimate sport" ??? how does sexism further anything. at least in real sports you can explain why there's different men and women leagues.[/QUOTE]
it's because saying "we're making progress! trust us, it will get better [I]later[/I]" is a nicer way of saying "we are too lazy to care about a literal half of the entire world's population."
[editline]2nd July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Crimor;45275865]Please don't cherrypick, the reason for it is due to this being a qualifier for a tournament in korea, which doesn't allow female players. It has nothing to do with "manchildren" that will throw "tantrums" in the tournament. I know it's hard for you, but please do try to read the entire article before throwing out insults randomly like you usually do.[/QUOTE]
and the [I]completely legitimate[/I] reason as to why women aren't allowed in SK's tournaments is....?
i actually read the entire article. nothing new was revealed to me except the fact that pretty much every game tournament on the planet is sexist for bogus reasons. yeah, i cherrypicked that point, but please tell me why that particular point is any more or less ridiculous than any of the other reasons why women are banned. "it's always been this way/it's already like this and we can't change" isn't legit btw if you want to bring that up for some reason.
then we've got this part of the article
[quote]Koskivirta's argument is that, by allowing women into their qualifier, there's a risk that the winner wouldn't be eligible to enter the IeSF's World Championship final.[/quote]
"we can't let women in because then the players wouldn't be eligible to enter the world championship"
why?
"because women aren't allowed in the tournament"
why?
"we can't let women in because then the players wouldn't be eligible to enter the world championship"
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45276127]and the [I]completely legitimate[/I] reason as to why women aren't allowed in SK's tournaments is....? [/QUOTE]
Because the SK company is trying to make esports appear like a "real sport", so they segregated them like "real sports" do. Shitty, yes. Absolutely retarded, yes.
But is any of this the fault of strawmanchildren? No. People like you who misplace blame to further your own agenda is why feminism is still laughed at.
This was a business decision, profit was the goal, not magic hate against women by manchildren.
who the fuck would watch a hearthstone tournament in the first place
[QUOTE=Naught;45276261]who the fuck would watch a hearthstone tournament in the first place[/QUOTE]
Yeah fuck people who watch video games they like what the fuck
The Finnish qualifier already said they are campaigning against the male-only setup (according to the article). Redirect your anger at the IeSF for trying to segregate eSports just because traditional sports are segregated.
I wonder how many just read the title of this before posting?
[QUOTE=Crimor;45276254]Because the SK company is trying to make esports appear like a "real sport", so they segregated them like "real sports" do. Shitty, yes. Absolutely retarded, yes.
But is any of this the fault of strawmanchildren? No. People like you who misplace blame to further your own agenda is why feminism is still laughed at.
This was a business decision, profit was the goal, not magic hate against women by manchildren.[/QUOTE]If it was a purely business and profit decision, they'd let women in because surprise surprise women play games as well and watch them as well. The only thing that this decision does is prevent an entire portion of the population from playing, and tell potential viewers and supporters "You aren't welcome here." It is literally counter-intuitive.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45276683]If it was a purely business and profit decision, they'd let women in because surprise surprise women play games as well and watch them as well. The only thing that this decision does is prevent an entire portion of the population from playing, and tell potential viewers and supporters "You aren't welcome here." It is literally counter-intuitive.[/QUOTE]
Except they're trying to get the attention of the big real sports companies by doing what they do. I didn't say it was it wasn't stupid and would work, just that they think it's gonna work.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45276127]
"we can't let women in because then the players wouldn't be eligible to enter the world championship"
why?
"because women aren't allowed in the tournament"
why?
"we can't let women in because then the players wouldn't be eligible to enter the world championship"[/QUOTE]
I really don't believe you've read the article when you can't even glance over your own posts.
What you have written makes absolutely no sense, you should calm down and stop writing these illogical, cocky and passive-aggressive rants.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45276254]Because the SK company is trying to make esports appear like a "real sport", so they segregated them like "real sports" do. Shitty, yes. Absolutely retarded, yes.
But is any of this the fault of strawmanchildren? No. People like you who misplace blame to further your own agenda is why feminism is still laughed at.
This was a business decision, profit was the goal, not magic hate against women by manchildren.[/QUOTE]
If they had to exclude women because it's a "business decision", that doesn't make the move not a sexist thing
From the article and their behavior, it is safe to assume that they're retarded, but we can't say for sure they're also sexist. It is an option, but it's not confirmed, therefore we should not take it for fact.
Basically keep your torch/pitchfork down till you know for fact that it's safe to join the mob. Else you just make an idiot of yourself.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;45279218]If they had to exclude women because it's a "business decision", that doesn't make the move not a sexist thing[/QUOTE]
Is it sexist to separate Football into womens league and mens league? It's done to give the different genders a fair chance at winning and being present in the sport. If Football was done with mixed genders there would be a dominance of men, leaving the women with a very low chance of being present in the sport.
They are just following the same idea here, treating esports as a "real sport" meaning they follow rules that doesn't make sense in a digital sport just because it's a sport.
As pants on head retarded it is, you can't call it sexist because it has nothing to do with discrimination and sexism. Don't give them so much credit, they're just stupid.
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