Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner Goes Full Kneejerk: No More Refugees - Polidicks

[url=http://www.sj-r.com/article/20151116/NEWS/151119666]Source[/url] [quote]Gov. Bruce Rauner says Illinois will temporarily stop accepting new Syrian refugees in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris. Rauner said Monday that Illinois will consider its legal options pending a review of U.S. Department and Homeland Security's acceptance and security processes. Rauner is one of several U.S. governors who say they will stop allowing Syrian refugees into their states after Friday night attacks in Paris left at least 129 people dead. One of the perpetrators is believed to have been a Syrian refugee. Texas, Arkansas, Michigan, Alabama, Louisiana, Indiana were among other states to issue statements similar to Rauner's.[/quote] Because there's so many refugees in Illinois that pose a threat? I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!!

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281][URL="http://www.sj-r.com/article/20151116/NEWS/151119666"]Source[/URL] Because there's so many refugees in Illinois that pose a threat? I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!![/QUOTE] That's terrible logic. People are allowed to talk about multiple issues at the same time. Also, please drop the stupid "if you're against syrian refugees, then you hate Muslims" spiel. It's just not true. It's perfectly logical to be against accepting refugees until there's an extremely good system in place to filter out possible terrorists.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281][url=http://www.sj-r.com/article/20151116/NEWS/151119666]Source[/url] Because there's so many refugees in Illinois that pose a threat? I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!![/QUOTE] Every single one of those reasons is a good reason why taking in refugees would be irresponsible then.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281]I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas[/QUOTE] Should probably not be accepting refugees then. Your people are having a shit time and need the resources. These Syrian refugees are hardly refugees anyway, they're just picking and choosing countries at this point. This isn't like the desperate boat people from the Vietnam War that Americans accepted with open arms. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281] But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!![/QUOTE] Quality.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49128302]That's terrible logic. People are allowed to talk about multiple issues at the same time. Also, please drop the stupid "if you're against syrian refugees, then you hate Muslims" spiel. It's just not true. It's perfectly logical to be against accepting refugees until there's an extremely good system in place to filter out possible terrorists.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I wouldn't be comfortable with my state accepting refugees after what just happened in Paris. Especially since, oh, I dunno, I fucking live here. [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] Also, guys, it's not [B]THAT[/b] bad here in Illinois. Chicago ain't perfect, but it's not some Robocop Detroit.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49128346]Should probably not be accepting refugees then. Your people are having a shit time and need the resources. These Syrian refugees are hardly refugees anyway, they're just picking and choosing countries at this point. This isn't like the desperate boat people from the Vietnam War that Americans accepted with open arms. Quality.[/QUOTE] the issue is in paris and europe, they're dumping them into pre-existing ghettos, in the US the system sort of spreads people out so large that a state may take in 1000 refugees itself, but the local areas may only take in a few dozen of those refugees themselves. they get dispersed a lot more here than other places

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49128371]Exactly. I wouldn't be comfortable with my state accepting refugees after what just happened in Paris. Especially since, oh, I dunno, I fucking live here. [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] Also, guys, it's not [B]THAT[/b] bad here in Illinois. Chicago ain't perfect, but it's not some Robocop Detroit.[/QUOTE] Yeah I have been to Chicago on quite a few occasions, and yeah, some streets don't feel the safest but it really wasn't that bad in most areas.

Great, more people need to wake up.

fuck you Rauner you've been fucking everything up. [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rika-chan;49128459]Yeah I have been to Chicago on quite a few occasions, and yeah, some streets don't feel the safest but it really wasn't that bad in most areas.[/QUOTE] It doesn't feel like New York where wherever you go you feel like you might die.

[QUOTE=QuinnithXD;49128483]fuck you Rauner you've been fucking everything up. [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] It doesn't feel like New York where wherever you go you feel like you might die.[/QUOTE] Have you been to New York? It's a ridiculously safe city aside from notable exceptions and projects.

Alright we should stop letting white people into churches then.

[QUOTE=srobins;49128498]Have you been to New York? It's a ridiculously safe city aside from notable exceptions and projects.[/QUOTE] A ridiculously safe city has the second highest amount of murders in the US in 2014?

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49128552]A ridiculously safe city has the second highest amount of murders in the US in 2014?[/QUOTE] Based on their immense population that seems pretty logical. Their actual murder RATE is statistically pretty low for what a massive and complex city it is. [url]http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/nyc-has-lowest-homicide-rate-of-5-largest-u-s-cities-nypd-says-1.10664788[/url]

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49128371]Exactly. I wouldn't be comfortable with my state accepting refugees after what just happened in Paris. Especially since, oh, I dunno, I fucking live here. [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] Also, guys, it's not [B]THAT[/B] bad here in Illinois. Chicago ain't perfect, but it's not some Robocop Detroit.[/QUOTE] I mean technically we do have East St. Louis, which per capita is one of the most violent areas in the country.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281] Because there's so many refugees in Illinois that pose a threat? I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!![/QUOTE]I know people have already told you this but; yes that's exactly why they shouldn't take in refugees, they already have a shit ton of their own domestic problems they need to take care of first. How come whenever it comes to anything refugee related you post something and it comes off as very condescending?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;49128502]Alright we should stop letting white people into churches then.[/QUOTE] For the love of fuck please try to explain this. Every time I try to come up with some line of logic behind this statement I just laugh because its such a fucking dumb statement.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;49128900]For the love of fuck please try to explain this. Every time I try to come up with some line of logic behind this statement I just laugh because its such a fucking dumb statement.[/QUOTE] People thinking this is because "FUCK THE SAND NIGGERS", as apposed to the fact that there is now clear evidence that ISIS isn't afraid to hide among refugees to get into the First world, just for the purpose of terrorist acts. and, again speaking as a Chicagoan here, I do NOT want to see what happened to that Concert hall in Paris, repeat itself at the Chicago Theater.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49128302]That's terrible logic. People are allowed to talk about multiple issues at the same time. Also, please drop the stupid "if you're against syrian refugees, then you hate Muslims" spiel. It's just not true. It's perfectly logical to be against accepting refugees until there's an extremely good system in place to filter out possible terrorists.[/QUOTE] That and he himself just listed three good reasons why Illinois is in no shape to help others when it can't sort out its own problems. Its just basic logic that you shouldn't go around giving charity when your state is bankrupt and falling apart at the seams.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49128281][url=http://www.sj-r.com/article/20151116/NEWS/151119666]Source[/url] Because there's so many refugees in Illinois that pose a threat? I mean, it's not like Illinois houses some of the most dangerous cities in the US I mean, it's not like Illinois has serious problems with collapsing infrastructure I mean, it's not like Illinois is hemorrhaging jobs and cash overseas But nope! Dem damn scurry muswims are da rEAL problem!!![/QUOTE] So a place with ALL THE PROBLEMS YOU LISTED is a perfect candidate for refugees? Really? I feel like you, and the people like you, are just ignoring the reality of the situations to insist anyone who doesn't just drop to their knees and agree with you is racist. It's way too far and way too much.

[QUOTE=Killer900;49128839]I know people have already told you this but; yes that's exactly why they shouldn't take in refugees, they already have a shit ton of their own domestic problems they need to take care of first. How come whenever it comes to anything refugee related you post something and it comes off as very condescending?[/QUOTE] Except the real reason why they arent taking refugees is because of their fear of a Islamic terrorist, not because of anything logical.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49129075]Except the real reason why they arent taking refugees is because of their fear of a Islamic terrorist, not because of anything logical.[/QUOTE] Plenty of people may have racist reasons but to boil down all reasons as racism as many on this forum leap to do so is factually wrong. It's not cool to generalize Muslims but it's also not cool to generalize those who aren't on your side either. There's plenty of real reasons that get brushed aside as "racism" and are most definitely not racism [editline]16th November 2015[/editline] Like how in BC we have 10000 homeless, many who want to work and want homes above their heads. Like how in BC, we're going to be giving 3000 refugees jobs in order to help them out while they're here, a great idea that ENTIRELY says "fuck you" to the homeless here. But hey, call me a fucking racist for worrying about my own city and being disgusted by the obvious and blatant hypocrisy being used here, and else where.

were we even taking in any refugees? i've lived in illinois my whole life and never heard of this

[QUOTE=TheHydra;49129136]were we even taking in any refugees? i've lived in illinois my whole life and never heard of this[/QUOTE] Same here, last I heard that was just a Euro thing. On a side note, I wonder how many non Illinoians are quoting that post about what's "wrong" with our state, thinking we're some upcoming Detroit? That shit kinda bothers me since I was born here.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49129096]Plenty of people may have racist reasons but to boil down all reasons as racism as many on this forum leap to do so is factually wrong. It's not cool to generalize Muslims but it's also not cool to generalize those who aren't on your side either. There's plenty of real reasons that get brushed aside as "racism" and are most definitely not racism[/QUOTE] I'm not generalizing. That is literally the reason as said in the OP's source. [quote]“We must find a way to balance our tradition as a state welcoming refugees while ensuring the safety and security of our citizens.”[/quote] No mention of "we cannot support them" its "we dont feel safe bringing them in" Illinois has taken a total of...... 94 refugees this year.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49129226]I'm not generalizing. That is literally the reason as said in the OP's source. No mention of "we cannot support them" its "we dont feel safe bringing them in" Illinois has taken a total of...... 94 refugees this year.[/QUOTE] But you've summed up any and all opposition to a huge issue so simply.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49129240]But you've summed up any and all opposition to a huge issue so simply.[/QUOTE] Illinois is not taking any more than the 94 they've taken this year so far because they no longer feel safe bringing in any more refugees. That is what this article is saying. That is what the governor is saying. It is impossible to refute that. There is zero mention of any type of other issue prohibiting refugees other than safety and security of Illinois. I'm not talking about issues at whole. I'm talking about this one particular issue. Illinois.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49129264]Illinois is not taking any more than the 94 they've taken this year so far because they no longer feel safe bringing in any more refugees. That is what this article is saying. That is what the governor is saying. It is impossible to refute that. There is zero mention of any type of other issue prohibiting refugees other than safety and security of Illinois. I'm not talking about issues at whole. I'm talking about this one particular issue. Illinois.[/QUOTE] Okay then, the governor of Illinois might be racist. Is anyone in Illinois who isn't a pro refugee proponent a racist?

How about we just focus a wee bit here on the pure reason the governor of our state is doing this. 1. ISIS, a few days after attacking Paris, France, is announcing an attempt on Washington D.C. 2. Only Three fucking days ago, Paris was victim to basically their own 9/11. 3. There is nothing racist about this at all. There's proof that terrorist or terrorist sympathizers snuck in with migrants, therefore it's safe to assume they'd do the same trying to get into The United States of America. This is just a measure other states are doing to prevent another 9/11 type event from happening, another Boston Marathon Bombing and shootout the following evening. It's called [b]PREVENTATIVE MEASURES[/b]. Not a middle finger to refugees and Muslims trying to flee. This is also not a permanent thing, I'm sure this is only until we devise a better way of screening refugees to keep ISIS out.

Illinois also hasn't passed its budget from july 2015. This state is hemorrhaging

Fucking hell OP, you got a real hard on for social progress or something? These are all perfect reasons to forbid refugee entries. Why the fuck is U.S.A even accepting refugees?