• Trucks With Confederate Flags Incite Apparent Intimidation In Georgia
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[QUOTE] Police in Douglasville, Georgia, were investigating an incident that occurred Saturday where a group of trucks, each bearing Confederate flags, drove by the birthday party of a black child. The trucks’ passengers were reportedly armed and using racial epithets, [URL="http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/watch-heated-confrontation-over-confederate-flags-/nm7JH/"]according to[/URL] the Atlanta Journal Constitution. The encounter was recorded in at least two cellphone videos. The Douglasville Police Department said in a statement to the Atlanta Journal Constitution that it had been alerted to the trucks and that its officers initially followed them but eventually stopped. Later, the police were called to an area where an argument between members of the convoy and those of the birthday party had grown heated. Police said it was examining the video footage for possible criminal activity. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trucks-with-confederate-flags-incite-apparent-intimidation-in-georgia/ar-AAdzx66"]Source[/URL] i begin to wonder why the fuck some people can't leave well enough alone, So many dumbasses with this flag it's not even funny.
I like how, because of the fact that Confederate Battle flags are being taken down everywhere, people are actually using the flag for racist reasons even though I'm pretty sure if this hadn't happened, they wouldn't have used it for that..
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48311879]I like how, because of the fact that Confederate Battle flags are being taken down everywhere, people are actually using the flag for racist reasons even though I'm pretty sure if this hadn't happened, they wouldn't have used it for that..[/QUOTE] Self-fulfilling prophecy. Anyone who flew this flag for any other reason is afraid of being labeled a racist, so now mostly just racists use it.
Now that's just downright shameful.
Plenty of non racists fly it too, just don't hear about them because they leave people alone. Hopefully these racist bastards get stopped though.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48311879]I like how, because of the fact that Confederate Battle flags are being taken down everywhere, people are actually using the flag for racist reasons even though I'm pretty sure if this hadn't happened, they wouldn't have used it for that..[/QUOTE] It has always been a symbol of racism.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;48314512]It has always been a symbol of racism.[/QUOTE] Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] Are you asking for proof, or are you suggestively linking the topic of racism (from Guy's post) with the topic of slavery? In either case, the proof is the fact that it was a symbol for the Confederacy, and the Confederacy was fighting pointlessly to preserve their agricultural plantation-based economic system which was both outdated and unsustainable with the arrival of the modern industrial era and the rise of the Abolitionist movement calling for an end to their ownership and their trading of slaves (and the slave trade was of course based on racist principles; "you look different, you must be inferior physically-- so we have a right to treat you worse than animals"). And then there's of course the post-Civil War adoption of it by organizations like the Klu Klux Klan as a symbol of racism. From my own personal experiences here in Missouri, there's no shortage of people who fly them-- if not publicly then privately in their homes. There's a guy in Higbee, the armpit of the Moberly area, who flies one from a pole hanging off his front porch. And usually what their case boils down to is "yeah I'm a racist asshole but I'm also a wannabe badass who wants to showcase to the world how much of a fucking hardcore rebel I am". It's playground intimidation is all it is. They want to show off, act tough, and start shit so they have an excuse to be outraged. People like that are the worst, and they need to get fucked so the rest of us don't have to put up with their bullshit anymore.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] It's one of the battle flags of a country literally founded on the principle of slavery. how is this so hard for people to understand Edit: jesus christ guys, did we really all just reply within a minute of each other after 20 minutes
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] Roy V. Harris, the recently retired speaker of the Georgia House of Representatives and editor of the Augusta Courier, on his embrace of the Confederate flag in 1951. ”The Confederate flag is coming to mean something to everybody now. It means the southern cause. It means the heart throbs of the people of the South. It is becoming to be the symbol of the white race and the cause of white people. The Confederate flag means segregation.” In 1956, Georgia merged the battle flag into it’s own state flag, as part of Gov. Marvin Griffin’s platform of “massive resistance” against the school integration mandated by Brown v. Board of Education. Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America Cornerstone Speech Savannah, Georgia March 21, 1861 "Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the [B]great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man[/B]; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition..." The flag is the symbol of the ideology of these people aka segregation.
Here in Florida there has seemed to be a rise of trucks flying Confederate flags lately. I mean, it was done pretty often before the whole crack-down on them, but it's kinda getting ridiculous now. Heck, I even seen a Confederate truck with a noose in the back.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48311879]I like how, because of the fact that Confederate Battle flags are being taken down everywhere, people are actually using the flag for racist reasons even though I'm pretty sure if this hadn't happened, they wouldn't have used it for that..[/QUOTE] What lol? They've always been used for it. If it wasn't outright bullshit excuses like "Southern pride", then they flat-out admitted it was for racist reasons. There's nothing new or different going on here, and the recent controversy over flying the flag has only led us to rightfully questioning its acceptability as a symbol (particularly as one that has been flown over buildings of government and in public). This just adds more fuel to the fire, and that's a good thing. Especially here when you've got pricks like this trying to make a scene and acting like hardasses who need to be taught a lesson. And hopefully, that's what it'll come to.
[QUOTE=Govna;48314772]What lol? They've always been used for it. If it wasn't outright bullshit excuses like "Southern pride", then they flat-out admitted it was for racist reasons. There's nothing new or different going on here, and the recent controversy over flying the flag has only led us to rightfully questioning its acceptability as a symbol (particularly as one that has been flown over buildings of government and in public). This just adds more fuel to the fire, and that's a good thing. Especially here when you've got pricks like this trying to make a scene and acting like hardasses who need to be taught a lesson. And hopefully, that's what it'll come to.[/QUOTE] I agree, hand all southeners for being ray ciss
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] The original flag of the Confederacy, called the "stars and bars," was deemed too similar to the Union flag, and so the Confederacy decided to replace it. Almost everything had some rendition of the unofficial Confederate battle flag used primarily by Lee's army. When the Confederacy officially adopted the battle flag as the second national flag of the CSA, they chose a design that placed it in the top left corner (much like the stars in the US flag), and then had the rest of the flag stay a solid white. [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_%281863-1865%29.svg/320px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_%281863-1865%29.svg.png[/img] The designer of the flag, W.T. Thompson, is directly quoted as titling the flag "The White Man's Flag" and stated that the white section of the flag symbolized the "supremacy of the white man." The flag was disliked primarily because it got dirty too easily and could easily be mistaken as a sign of surrender, but was widely acclaimed for symbolizing the ideals of the Confederacy - those ideals being white supremacy. It was praised for symbolizing "the destiny of the Southern master and his African slave," and the southern-pointing cross symbol of the battle flag was seen as "pointing to the banks of the Amazon," symbolizing the Confederacy's desire to spread slavery southwards into Central and South America. This was an official flag of the Confederacy. Pretty easy to see why people consider it racist. You can argue that it isn't racist without the white background, but it still shows that the Confederacy widely regarded the battle flag as a symbol of white supremacy even alone.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48311879]I like how, because of the fact that Confederate Battle flags are being taken down everywhere, people are actually using the flag for racist reasons even though I'm pretty sure if this hadn't happened, they wouldn't have used it for that..[/QUOTE] People have been using the flag for racist reasons for decades, see any KKK rally.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] Well other than the fact that it's the KKKs battleflag, it also wasn't the flag of the confederacy at any point during the war. Did I also mention its been the kkks battleflag since after the civil war?
[QUOTE=Sableye;48316476]Well other than the fact that it's the KKKs battleflag, it also wasn't the flag of the confederacy at any point during the war. Did I also mention its been the kkks battleflag since after the civil war?[/QUOTE] The American flag is also the KKK's battleflag. My source? I fucking live near them.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48314524]Proof that the flag was made with the intention of condoning slavery?[/QUOTE] The confederacy was made with the intention of keeping slavery legal. I believe that puts the matter to rest.
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