Science Does it Again! Groundbreaking Footage of THOUGHTS BEING MADE
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[quote=Article]A team of Japanese researchers has achieved something incredible: they've captured, for the first time ever, a movie which shows how thoughts form in the brain.[/quote]
[video=youtube;Vo3TchUQM1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo3TchUQM1w[/video]
Source: [url]http://gizmodo.com/5980796/first+ever-incredible-footage-of-a-thought-being-formed[/url]
Holy shit
Woa, that is [B]amazing[/B]
I was going to post this last night but I couldn't find the video. Here's their procedure:
[quote]To see what was actually going on in those fish noggins, researchers developed a genetically engineered protein, called GCaMP7a, that lights up under a fluorescent microscope when neurons, or brain cells, fire. Transgenic zebrafish were bred to express this protein in a brain region called the optic tectum, which controls the movement of the eye when the animal sees something move in its environment.
In one experiment, the scientists imaged the brain of a transgenic fish larva as it watched a dot on a screen blinking on and off or moving back and forth. Under the microscope, signals flashed through the fish's brain, mirroring the movement of the dot. [See video of the fish's brain.]
Next, a live paramecium — zebrafish prey — was placed in sight of an immobilized fish. Again, neural signals could be seen zipping around the fish's brain, tracking the paramecium's movement. No signals were detected when the paramecium was motionless, however.
Lastly, a paramecium was placed in a dish with a zebrafish larva that was allowed to swim freely, hunting its prey. The researchers mapped the fish's brain activity as it zeroed in on the paramecium and swam toward it. [/quote]
[url]http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50655896/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.UQwmi2dWQwp[/url]
[quote]But we [B]shouldn't not[/B] play this down: this is a fundamental leap forward in our understanding of how brains work.[/quote]
we uh what
edit:
[quote]That let's us see neurons [/quote]
goddammit gizmodo
This is so cool
Fish food for thought!
For the first time ever we are close to answering one of the most important questions in science.
What do fishes think about?
I know there'll now be an arthouse film with this sort of stuff in it
It's scary to think how a fish thinks in a way not unlike our own; yet we treat it in such a vastly different way..
This reminds me of a quote by Einstein:
[QUOTE]“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bradyns;39439990]It's scary to think how a fish thinks in a way not unlike our own; yet we treat it in such a vastly different way..
This reminds me of a quote by Einstein:[/QUOTE]
What if you judge a mangrove killifish by its ability to climb a tree?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/o5YmXlH.jpg[/img]
Pretty smart fish.
[QUOTE=OvB;39440048]What if you judge a mangrove killifish by its ability to climb a tree?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/o5YmXlH.jpg[/img]
Pretty smart fish.[/QUOTE]
Tou-fucking-ché
That's so cool, you can see the neurons firing and everything.
Imagine all of the avenues of research we could go down from here, there are so many possibilities. Everything from thought control and lie detectors to possible new ways to examine mental health issues and perhaps even the beginnings of pure thought controlled interfaces. I might be stretching it a bit but this has really excited me. It's so fucking cool!
That was strangely beautiful.
I want to see a video of this of someone playing Starcraft
Amazing! Each day we're getting closer to technology that can show what someone is thinking.
And on that day when we finally make that technology, I
will be freaking the [B]fuck[/B] out
Couldn't they use this to further advance lie detection technology?
It looks like a lightning storm.
Maybe it's like dwarf fortress. If you look at it for long enough you start seeing real things.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39440357]Maybe it's like dwarf fortress. If you look at it for long enough you start seeing real things.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.pressxordie.com/wp-content/uploads/Matrix-Fortress.jpg[/img]
Every dwarf fortress player knows what's going on.
I always knew that brains were partially electrical, but seeing a brain light up like a thunderstorm is just so magical! God; if that's what a fish brain looks like when the fish is hungry or whatever, performing some sort of psychic technique would be like 5th of Flippin' November/4th of Frikken' July/Chinese Goddamn New Year.
I know we don't have Psi yet, but if and when we develop the tech, things would be amazing.
Also I assume that this observation of though-forming could be used to determine what things are thinking, in other words the first primitive origins of mind-reading.
This is not the showing the thoughts of a fish being formed, what the hell.. it's neural activity showing its focus and movement of the eyes.
For thoughts they're pretty ugly.
I misread read it hoping to see its thoughts ( like ideas and dreams and stuff ) :(
Still no disappointed.
Holy shit, what a spectacle.
Would be cool if we could do something similar to human brains
[QUOTE=GoldenBullet;39440237]I want to see a video of this of someone playing Starcraft[/QUOTE]
too much bleeding
I call that video bullshit :D
Synaptic functions don't equal thoughts being made, rofl.
[QUOTE=irukandji;39442951]I call that video bullshit :D
Synaptic functions don't equal thoughts being made, rofl.[/QUOTE]
Watch the video abstract: [url]http://www.cell.com/current-biology/retrieve/pii/S096098221300002X[/url]
[quote]Here we demonstrate visualization of neuronal activity in the optic tectum of larval zebrafish by genetically expressing the new version of GCaMP. First, we demonstrate Ca2+ transients in the tectum evoked by a moving spot on a display and identify direction-selective neurons. Second, we show tectal activity during perception of a natural object, a swimming paramecium, revealing a functional visuotopic map. Finally, we image the tectal responses of a free-swimming larval fish to a paramecium and thereby correlate neuronal activity in the brain with prey capture behavior.[/quote]
Not one mention of thought or thinking.
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