Islamic State Group Threatens to Kill Japanese Hostages - Polidicks

[url]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISLAMIC_STATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-20-01-15-57[/url] [quote]CAIRO (AP) -- An online video released Tuesday purported to show the Islamic State group threatening to kill two Japanese hostages unless they receive a $200 million ransom in the next 72 hours. The video, identified as being made by the Islamic State group's al-Furqan media arm and posted on militant websites associated with the extremist group, mirrored other hostage threats made the group. The man speaking also resembled and sounded like a British militant involved in other beheadings by the Islamic State group, which now holds a third of Iraq and Syria under its self-declared caliphate. The video shows two hostages in orange jumpsuits that the militants identify as Kenji Goto Jogo and Haruna Yukawa. Japan's Foreign Ministry's anti-terrorism section has seen the video and analysts are assessing it, a ministry official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of department rules.[/quote]

great now there going piss of Japan. will these fucks get fucked already ISIS are scum.

the islamic state is getting so powerful, it's concerning.

[QUOTE]$200 million ransom in the next 72 hours.[/QUOTE] This is an insane ransom and they know it. It's pretty fucking horrific that they make these demands knowing that it probably won't be fulfilled.

This isn't even fighting for religion anymore, it's just to be filthy scum and piss people incredibly off.

[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;46971336]This isn't even fighting for religion anymore, it's just to be filthy scum and piss people incredibly off.[/QUOTE] It was never fighting for religion. These people are fiends and sociopaths justifying their actions with religion. They use it to enable themselves. They don't fight for it.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;46971337]It was never fighting for religion. These people are fiends and sociopaths justifying their actions with religion. They use it to enable themselves. They don't fight for it.[/QUOTE] they're essentially twisting the quran for their own purposes

Japan will definitely not gonna let them go with this easily

[QUOTE=Limed00d;46971344]they're essentially twisting the quran for their own purposes[/QUOTE] It's the only way they can live with how small they actually are. They are small and weak and cruel. Pitiful if not for how disgusting an example they are of what any of us could become if we lost our compassion and humanity.

The saddest part is that unless ISIS invades Japan, they're not even allowed to retaliate in any way. (At least that's my understanding of Japan's self-defence force) [editline]20th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ScottyWired;46971331]This is an insane ransom and they know it. It's pretty fucking horrific that they make these demands knowing that it probably won't be fulfilled.[/QUOTE] By making a ransom demand, they can 'blame' the rest of the world for their deaths because of their not paying it. It's a way of ridding themselves of the blame.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46971364]The saddest part is that unless ISIS invades Japan, they're not even allowed to retaliate in any way. (At least that's my understanding of Japan's self-defence force)[/QUOTE] Nah, in August they changed up their policy so now they can defend the homeland at a distance. [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-19/japan-expands-their-military-amid-growing-tensions-with-china/5672932[/url]

Theyve got that "with us or against us" mentality and boy are they trying to look like hot shit

Too bad ISIS doesn't have to deal with Imperial Japan with modern weapons. They be so fucked.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;46971371]Nah, in August they changed up their policy so now they can defend the homeland at a distance. [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-19/japan-expands-their-military-amid-growing-tensions-with-china/5672932[/url][/QUOTE] it doesn't matter they literally have zero force projection. It's not like they have a carrier they can send, and their destroyers have anti air self defence loadouts no strong offensive capability like Tomahawks all they can do is sit aircraft on airbases and help with the airstrikes which isn't much of a game changer.

Has to suck knowing your government won't pay up (understandably) and your fate is sealed.

Wasn't it in Japan that they solved a hostage situation by just shooting absolutely everyone including the hostages or am I mixing things up

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46973568]Wasn't it in Japan that they solved a hostage situation by just shooting absolutely everyone including the hostages or am I mixing things up[/QUOTE] sounds like something russians would do :v:

[QUOTE=Grimhound;46971337]It was never fighting for religion. These people are fiends and sociopaths justifying their actions with religion. They use it to enable themselves. They don't fight for it.[/QUOTE] Please stop spreading this idea. Its not true. By doing this you're distracting people from the real problems in Islam, and apologizing for extremism.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;46971331]This is an insane ransom and they know it. It's pretty fucking horrific that they make these demands knowing that it probably won't be fulfilled.[/QUOTE] They say those amounts because they want larger media attention [editline]20th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Pantz Master;46973949]Please stop spreading this idea. Its not true. By doing this you're distracting people from the real problems in Islam, and apologizing for extremism.[/QUOTE] What exactly are you saying the problem is?

[QUOTE=Grimhound;46971337]It was never fighting for religion. These people are fiends and sociopaths justifying their actions with religion. They use it to enable themselves. They don't fight for it.[/QUOTE] Replace religion with cult. Many of them are fighting for their collective beliefs. They are doing what they think is right. Most of them are brainwashed. Claiming they are all sociopaths is just as bad as claiming all islam is about terror. It's stupid generalization and avoids the actual issue of brainwashing recruits. To claim they're all cold hearted sociopaths is, to me, horrible too. What they did is inexcusable but jumping to conclusions and painting them as monsters is exactly what their leaders do, except replace terrorist with westerner.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;46973962]What exactly are you saying the problem is?[/QUOTE] The problem is that moderate Muslims and ISIS extremists can find exactly the same amount of textual support from the Koran for their lifestyles. Islam is not a buglamp for psychopaths, nor is it solely an excuse that people use for killing others. And by claiming these things, you're allowing extremists to get away with their bullshit.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;46973949]Please stop spreading this idea. Its not true. By doing this you're distracting people from the real problems in Islam, and apologizing for extremism.[/QUOTE] You want me to aim at religion? Fine. If the philosophy underlying a religion is sound, it can stand without divine enforcement. The association of a set of ideals and the actions done by them with a divine being is an act of arrogance and a sign that the ideals are hollow and rotten. Belief is meaningless without self-actualization. I'm not a very religious person, but I have thoughts on the matter. If a divine being with power cosmic and omnipotent and knowledge omniscient seeded us on this Earth or provoked our evolution, it wasn't so we would kill one another. The universe is vast.

[QUOTE=Ta16;46971595]it doesn't matter they literally have zero force projection. It's not like they have a carrier they can send, and their destroyers have anti air self defence loadouts no strong offensive capability like Tomahawks all they can do is sit aircraft on airbases and help with the airstrikes which isn't much of a game changer.[/QUOTE] but they do have a landing tank, three in fact: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Csumi-class_tank_landing_ship[/url]

[QUOTE=codemaster85;46974221]but they do have a landing tank, three infact.[/QUOTE] And? They also have the Hyuga which is pretty much a Helio/VSTOL carrier. I had the privlige of visiting it actually even got a crew ball cap. They very much lack the logistical support and air and sealift capabilities of the US or China. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/JS_Hy%C5%ABga%2C_Ise_Bay_01.jpg/1280px-JS_Hy%C5%ABga%2C_Ise_Bay_01.jpg[/img] JMSDF and JGSDF are specifically geared for a local fight with China or DPRK where you don't need alot of long range logistics, just local which they have plenty of.

Come on, Japan, fuck them up. Please?

[QUOTE=Ta16;46971595]it doesn't matter they literally have zero force projection. It's not like they have a carrier they can send, and their destroyers have anti air self defence loadouts no strong offensive capability like Tomahawks all they can do is sit aircraft on airbases and help with the airstrikes which isn't much of a game changer.[/QUOTE] They've actually been building up their military quite a bit in recent years and have been working to increase their power projection. And I'm sure the US would be more than happy to augment any pieces they may be missing such as aircraft carriers. A good video on the subject: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcQTysyGwKQ[/media]

Japan weak.

It takes a special kind of idiot to fuck around with the JSDF. Just imagine going out to a strafing run from this thing. [t]https://i.imgur.com/v8tlJpk.jpg[/t] Kawaii as fuck.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;46973949]Please stop spreading this idea. Its not true. By doing this you're distracting people from the real problems in Islam, and apologizing for extremism.[/QUOTE] Quick question, why do you believe that it is Islam that is the source of the problem, you see the rest of the Muslims in Europe and America completely sane and they do not want to support ISIS or any other terrorist organization or sharia law.

darn it guys, we were going for so long here without turning into a mess of an argument about religion, bring it to the debate section.