• Ukrainian troops in Kramatorsk raise Russian flag and join Donbass Self Defence
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Thought I'd post this in case some western media gonna call those Russian occupants, no sir, those are the forces many of ya people wish would ''squash those separatist''. [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=4iOcAfFPH0E&feature=youtu.be#[/media] There are already more footage also original 11 minute video and reports that atleast three more BTRs with included crew said they join Donbass cause ''they decided to join people, not fight them''. If someone would kindly share those links I would much apreciate since I had to make this thread from mobile, currently away from PC.
Well fuck, guess Ukraine is splitting in half after all...
[video=youtube;6bpabV3S4uA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bpabV3S4uA[/video]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44559907]Well fuck, guess Ukraine is splitting in half after all...[/QUOTE] If they don't take over all of Ukraine that is.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44560136]If they don't take over all of Ukraine that is.[/QUOTE] there's nothing in it for them the east (and south?) is where the money comes from and where they have the support of the population the west doesn't have the industry or the support of the populace, better to just split the country in half and leave the western part in an economic nightmare
I'd be so depressed if I was a Ukrainian, like holy fuck their country is about to be split up. And the western part of Ukraine without eastern part is so fucked
Why no one is doing anything in there? Like seriously how could they send those retards with the chance of deserting? Russia already declared war on Ukraine, really no one can fucking admit it?
[QUOTE=Swineflu;44560197]I'd be so depressed if I was a Ukrainian, like holy fuck their country is about to be split up. And the western part of Ukraine without eastern part is so fucked[/QUOTE] They had their chances. If they would convince new government for quicker action at begining of this mess rather then be in euphoria from ''international'' support things would be different. But instead there was month of ignorance toward south east's protests and silly ''terrorist'' labelling. pray_for_ukraine? Well, #pray_harder
Pretty sure those are BMPs and not BTRs.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;44560244]They had their chances. If they would convince new government for quicker action at begining of this mess rather then be in euphoria from ''international'' support things would be different. But instead there was month of ignorance toward south east's protests and silly ''terrorist'' labelling. pray_for_ukraine? Well, #pray_harder[/QUOTE] Yeah they should have just submitted to mother Russia like a good little bloc.
Is this the first example of mutiny, or have there been others? Still though, at this point it's looking like East and West Ukraine...
[QUOTE=Aide;44560253]Pretty sure those are BMPs and not BTRs.[/QUOTE] Both are wrong, those are BMD. Airborne personnel carrier.
[QUOTE=gudman;44560463]Both are wrong, those are BMD. Airborne personnel carrier.[/QUOTE] Sorry man, my bad.
Considering Russia was paying Ukrainian soldiers to leave military bases I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same thing here.
[QUOTE=Medevila;44560644]Russia has torn the Ukraine apart from the inside and there's nothing that can be done to avert armed conflict at this stage aside from the Ukrainian government's complete capitulation[/QUOTE] I could see Maiden trying to start an insurgency, but then we'd just have Georgia 2.
Why cant Russia just fuck off for once? ukraine is so screwed because of them. So depressing
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44560670]I could see Maiden trying to start an insurgency, but then we'd just have Georgia 2.[/QUOTE] I already get the impression that Russia's shit stirring in Eastern Ukraine is to try and engender the circumstances in Georgia, in which the West was sympathetic-ish to their intervention. A case of "You let us do it once, not being happy with it would be hypocritical now."
[QUOTE=Squad1993;44560689]Why cant Russia just fuck off for once? ukraine is so screwed because of them. So depressing[/QUOTE] To be honest the Ukrainian government is also partly to blame, dissension, upheaval, lack of committal. That and ethnic tensions (Which to be fair I didn't see much of uptil now) have torn the country apart.
The current Ukraine President seems really weak, he doesn't do shit. Russia could just keep playing/poking him because nothing will be done.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;44560735]The current Ukraine President seems really weak, he doesn't do shit. Russia could just keep playing/poking him because nothing will be done.[/QUOTE] Ukraine currently does not have a legitimate president
[QUOTE=Medevila;44560756]they have an "acting" president there's nothing "illegitimate" about him[/QUOTE] He's pretty bad at the whole "acting" thing
I like how in thread about Ukrainian desertion people still say ''Russia Fuck off''. Soo sensational.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44560777]He's pretty bad at the whole "acting" thing[/QUOTE] Do you think right now with the country being hacked to bits by Russia that it's a good time to start elections?
[QUOTE=Reshy;44561018]Do you think right now with the country being hacked to bits by Russia that it's a good time to start elections?[/QUOTE] Actually it's exactly that time when they need a right man in charge. A weak leader that can't handle a hard situation like the one in Ukraine will only make it worse for literally everyone.
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So from what is said is that it was literally a false flag, the Ukranian Army was forced to do this by the separatists. In what I find interesting aswell is how good the Ukranian Army is, I think most wouldn't have the discipline and not fire a single shot.
[QUOTE=Aide;44560253]Pretty sure those are BMPs and not BTRs.[/QUOTE] They're BMDs actually
[QUOTE=karimatrix;44560938]I like how in thread about Ukrainian desertion people still say ''Russia Fuck off''. Soo sensational.[/QUOTE] Yeah I wouldn't desert too if I was a conscript stuck in the middle of some hell hole surrounded by ~~~~*self defense forces*~~~~ who want me dead and are totally acting independently of Moscow right
Russia occupies the eastern Ukraine by Ukrainians and Ukrainian army? If we follow this logic, Russia will win the USA by Americans... Lying to your own people as the best way to get a knife in back Beware of Americans who support Russian
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