If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot - Polidicks

'If your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot' - leading member of Mensa apologises after controversial comment on BBC Breakfast [quote]The BBC and Mensa have both apologised after a leading member of the society called anyone with an IQ below 60 a “carrot” live on air. Peter Baimbridge, a Mensa member, made the comments during an interview with BBC Breakfast. He was being asked about the effectiveness of IQ tests at judging intelligence. "So most IQ tests will have Mr and Mrs Average scoring 100 and the higher you get, the brighter you are. And if your IQ is somewhere around 60 then you are probably a carrot," Mr Baimbridge said. A number of viewers contacted the programme to voice concerns over the remarks, which they said insulted people with learning difficulties. The hosts, Louise Minchin and Charlie Stayt apologised at the end of the programme and read out an apology from Mr Baimbridge. The presenters also read out some of the complaints on air. British Mensa apologised for the comment, saying it was: "totally inappropriate and does not represent the society's official position or view". One viewer, an employee of learning disability charity Mencap, said she was "shocked" and "disgusted" by the comments. Ciara Evans, who has a learning disability, urged Mr Baimbridge to "engage his brain before his mouth". One of the complaints read out on air came from a Dr Sullivan who said: "As a clinical psychologist who has worked with many people who have an IQ below 60, I find these comments to be offensive and completely incorrect. Such comments perpetuate the stigma around an individual with learning difficulties." A BBC spokeswoman said: "A number of viewers contacted BBC Breakfast this morning, who were offended by comments made by a contributor during a live interview on the programme. "Following the initial item, we broadcast a selection of the complaints on-air a short time later in the programme, and both presenters apologised at the end of the programme and read out a personal apology from the contributor. "Clearly we do not condone the comments that were made in any way and sincerely apologise for the offence caused." John Stevenage, Mensa chief executive said: "We would like to apologise for any offence caused by Peter Baimbridge's remark. It most certainly does not reflect the views of the society or of our members. "The society looks at levels of IQ. However, it fully recognises that it is not what level of mental ability someone has but what they do with it that is the real achievement in life. "Peter himself very much regrets the comment and would like to offer sincere apologies to those people offended by the remark." According to Mencap, 1.5 million people in the UK have a learning disability. Ms Evans, a campaigns assistant with the charity, said: "As a person with a learning disability, I am shocked that someone has described people like me as carrots. "We can achieve a lot in life: I live independently, have a full-time job and I'm getting married next year." A number of parents and carers called and emailed the charity's helpline saying they found Mr Baimbridge's comment "deeply offensive". Ms Evans said: "I am disgusted that he made this comment and on behalf of all the people who have tweeted, rung and emailed Mencap to say how upset they are, I think Mensa should apologise and he should engage his brain before his mouth. It seems that having a high IQ doesn't make you a sensitive or caring human being." Mensa was founded in England in 1946 by Roland Berrill, a barrister, and Lance Ware, a scientist and lawyer, who wanted to form a society for people with a high IQ.[/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/if-your-iq-is-somewhere-around-60-then-you-are-probably-a-carrot--leading-member-of-mensa-apologises-after-controversial-comment-on-bbc-breakfast-8428919.html[/url]

i'm actually a potato thank you very much

Good thing scientists just proved that IQ is a load of bollocks and don't mean shit

Oh god, shut up. Does he have to say "You're a carrot - unless you are mentally disabled"? Stop with the political correctness bullshit.

[QUOTE=Midas22;38936031]Good thing scientists just proved that IQ is a load of bollocks and don't mean shit[/QUOTE] I thought they only determined that it was too broad to determine someones IQ by one test or something like that?

[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;38936044]Oh god, shut up. Does he have to say "You're a carrot - unless you are mentally disabled"? Stop with the political correctness bullshit.[/QUOTE] In this case it really isn't political correctness but more an incorrect assumption. To say an individual is a carrot is to say they are in a state of complete inability to do anything, which isn't true.

People with a sub 60 IQ are nothing like carrots. They don't help your vision, and if try to eat one, everyone starts flipping the fuck out

thank god am 63

Rob Schneider...

Who cares it's not like carrots actually realize they're being insulted by that comment.

I am 2 carrots smart

i think we should switch to a carrot-based iq measurement system.

Well joke's on them, my favorite number is carrot!

[QUOTE=tinhead50;38936078]In this case it really isn't political correctness but more an incorrect assumption. To say an individual is a carrot is to say they are in a state of complete inability to do anything, which isn't true.[/QUOTE] You're implying that he was assuming that. It's just a word.

[video=youtube;SXltv7Q7pHI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXltv7Q7pHI[/video] relevent [QUOTE=Ericson666;38936098]People with a sub 60 IQ are nothing like carrots. They don't help your vision, and if try to eat one, everyone starts flipping the fuck out[/QUOTE] [thumb]http://guidosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/guidos-and-guidettes-collars-up.jpg[/thumb] they sure look like carrots dawg

IQ is stupid anyways. Anyone who waves around their IQ as a measure of their intelligence is, ironically, stupid: they can't even foretell being a stuck up prick will make people hate them because of their proclamations of intelligence.

It's PC gone mad, root vegetables don't have feelings [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Midas22;38936031]Good thing scientists just proved that IQ is a load of bollocks and don't mean shit[/QUOTE] It's just not as accurate as people thought, there's no doubt that there is some correlation between IQ and actual intelligence

Why should both the BBC and Mensa have to apologize? It was just one guy saying that.

[QUOTE=Zerohe;38936283]IQ is stupid anyways. Anyone who waves around their IQ as a measure of their intelligence is, ironically, stupid: they can't even foretell being a stuck up prick will make people hate them because of their proclamations of intelligence.[/QUOTE]Measuring intelligence as one single number is one of the dumbest ideas an intelligent person has ever had. You've got different kinds of brain-based competence. Knowledge and wisdom, one might say. A smart man knows how to make a lot of money, a wise man knows how to shut up about it.

[QUOTE=Lizzrd;38936506]You've got different kinds of brain-based competence. Knowledge and wisdom, one might say.[/QUOTE] That makes little sense, but I.Q is supposed to measure how you act across [I]all[/I] subjects.

I was hoping this was an article showing that carrots have some sort of nervus system that was calculated of being capable of an IQ of 60.

[QUOTE=Zerohe;38936283]IQ is stupid anyways. Anyone who waves around their IQ as a measure of their intelligence is, ironically, stupid: they can't even foretell being a stuck up prick will make people hate them because of their proclamations of intelligence.[/QUOTE] You're, ironically, stupid for pretending to know what IQ is, and not knowing that IQ doesn't affect evolutionarily familiar situations, such as social skills, which is why some might wave their scores around like jerks [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Patriarch;38936555]That makes little sense, but I.Q is supposed to measure how you act across [I]all[/I] subjects.[/QUOTE] According to [url=http://personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/pdfs/SPQ2010.pdf]this study[/url] IQ is a good indicator of people being better than others at overcoming evolutionarily novel problems. That is, problems that humans don't frequently encounter, people with higher IQ's are better at solving.

You can't say that IQ is completely irrelevant and doesn't measure any intelligence at all. There is still some level of accuracy to it, even though it's been proven to not be the most accurate method of measuring.

[QUOTE=Midas22;38936031]Good thing scientists just proved that IQ is a load of bollocks and don't mean shit[/QUOTE] no they didn't [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Zerohe;38936283]IQ is stupid anyways. Anyone who waves around their IQ as a measure of their intelligence is, ironically, stupid: they can't even foretell being a stuck up prick will make people hate them because of their proclamations of intelligence.[/QUOTE] there's a difference between IQ being used to measure intelligence and the people that boast about their IQ the former is legitimate, the latter is because they generally don't have much else to go on except "muh high IQ" [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lizzrd;38936506]Measuring intelligence as one single number is one of the dumbest ideas an intelligent person has ever had. You've got different kinds of brain-based competence. Knowledge and wisdom, one might say. A smart man knows how to make a lot of money, a wise man knows how to shut up about it.[/QUOTE] that's conventional wisdom but it's actually wrong, do some research [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;38936564]I was hoping this was an article showing that carrots have some sort of nervus system that was calculated of being capable of an IQ of 60.[/QUOTE] slightly relevant: [url]http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/fmri-gets-slap-in-face-with-dead-fish.html[/url] [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] also yeah I agree with the core of what the mensa dude was saying, even though he could have said it a bit more tactfully.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38936228]i think we should switch to a carrot-based iq measurement system.[/QUOTE] I am 2.28333 carrots smart.

i was going to join mensa when they started raving about how high my IQ was. in the 4th grade then i saw some cartoon or something that made me realize all mensa is is a place for sad lonely nerds who just want to be apart of a club without having to really hone any skills at all. or do anything at all for that matter

I'm pretty sure I took two IQ tests. I didn't get the results of neither of them.

honestly in the back of my head i've always thought they were lying to me, i am actually retarded, and they were just telling me i was smart for some kind of pseudo psycho mind game. yes i have head problems...

Like, the 4 hour fuck-you tests. Not hat online bullshit.

[QUOTE=Raizo;38936753]Like, the 4 hour fuck-you tests. Not hat online bullshit.[/QUOTE] i've lost track of how many IQ tests were forced upon me...