Trying To Decide What Phone To Get - iPhone, Android, or Windows 7?
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Okay, so I am going to be getting a new phone hopefully either sometime this week or next week, and right now I am trying to decide which to get. I am going with AT&T as my provider. Currently, I am looking at either the iPhone 3GS (I don't want to shell out $100 for the iPhone 4) or the HTC HD7S if I go with windows phone. I am mainly going to be using my phone to browse the internet, maybe a little bit of app using on the side, not much. Help please?
If you're stuck between the HD7S and the iPhone 3GS, I'd go with the windows phone, hands down. The bigger screen and higher resolution will make browsing the web much better. Also, Mango as an OS is pretty nifty and I'd think you'll probably enjoy that over iOS on anything other than an iPhone 4/4S.
[QUOTE=DaNoob;35002471]If you're stuck between the HD7S and the iPhone 3GS, I'd go with the windows phone, hands down. The bigger screen and higher resolution will make browsing the web much better. Also, Mango as an OS is pretty nifty and I'd think you'll probably enjoy that over iOS on anything other than an iPhone 4/4S.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am leaning toward the HD7S. I do like the bigger screen. I do like the iPhone, but I think in this case I'd be better off with Windows, rather than the outdated iPhone 3GS.
I have a rooted HTC Incredible and I love it.
Im a big iphone fan but now days everyone is soo keen on the new 4G here in australia they are all looking at the HTC velocity which is starting to get very popular.
If you can only get the 3GS don't go for the iPhone.
I'd have to agree with DaNoob and Jasun. The HD7S is your best bet. I work at Bell up here in Canada and there isn't a single Android device that doesn't have the stutter you hear about, not even the new flagship Galaxy Nexus or the quad core Asus Transformer. The 3GS is also just too old, the screen is low res and it likely won't get any more major iOS updates and will become a legacy device like the 3G.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35004344]I'd have to agree with DaNoob and Jasun. The HD7S is your best bet. I work at Bell up here in Canada and there isn't a single Android device that doesn't have the stutter you hear about, not even the new flagship Galaxy Nexus or the quad core Asus Transformer. The 3GS is also just too old, the screen is low res and it likely won't get any more major iOS updates and will become a legacy device like the 3G.[/QUOTE]
Even if it does get update, they will just make it crawl even more.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35004344]I'd have to agree with DaNoob and Jasun. The HD7S is your best bet. I work at Bell up here in Canada and there isn't a single Android device that doesn't have the stutter you hear about, not even the new flagship Galaxy Nexus or the quad core Asus Transformer. The 3GS is also just too old, the screen is low res and it likely won't get any more major iOS updates and will become a legacy device like the 3G.[/QUOTE]
What is this stutter you speak of?
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35008112]What is this stutter you speak of?[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing.
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;35008479]I was thinking the same thing.[/QUOTE]
He emphasized the "Canada" bit so I assume it's a 3G/HSDPA stutter?
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35008576]He emphasized the "Canada" bit so I assume it's a 3G/HSDPA stutter?[/QUOTE]
Uh no. I'm talking about how the Android UI stutters and has fluctuations in framerate. You either have bad eyesight or you choose to ignore it if you haven't noticed it. Even ICS devices with top of the line hardware still have issues where the UI will take a second to respond to touch input, scrolling through lists has framerate slowdowns, etc.
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I just said Canada because I don't expect anyone outside of Canada to know our carrier names.
I can honestly say that my Android doesn't stutter..
In all honesty I haven't noticed it. I have a few android devices too that I use daily without exception.
ICS made my tablet [i]Worse[/i] in terms of stability however.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35009009]I can honestly say that my Android doesn't stutter..[/QUOTE]
So which magical device is this? I'd love to know because even the 1.3GHz quad core Asus Transformer Prime still has the stutter. There has never been an Android phone in our Bell store that hasn't had it. The Galaxy S II is the best I've seen, but go to the messaging or contacts apps and it'll show up. I'm also not the only one who knows this.
[quote=Engadget]we were sorry to still see some occasional stutters and hiccups from time to time, instances where the device would hesitate for just a half-second or so before responding. There are three performance modes that are easily selected between in the pop-up settings menu, but even on its highest we couldn't get it to be a consistently smooth operator. They're the kind of stops and starts [b]we've seen on just about every Android device to date[/b] and it's a bit of a shame that even four whopping cores running at 1.3GHz can't do away with them.[/quote]
So which phone do you own?
Desire HD, 1.8ghz, ICS 4.0.3, only "stuttering" I get is on pulse, but pulse has never worked 100% for me.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35009095]Desire HD, 1.8ghz, ICS 4.0.3.[/QUOTE]
I'll want video proof before I ever believe that. No way a Scorpion chip and an Adreno 205 can do all the UI animations in ICS at 60fps and be perfectly responsive.
EDIT: Don't worry about Pulse. I don't even think it runs smooth on the iPhone either.
EDIT2: Make sure you show the pulldown menu and the app drawer.
Recording one now.
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I did a few things, not the pulldown though but that works fine, I wouldn't expect the pulldown menu to not work if the app drawer does.
Also off a clean boot so everything is being loaded the first time except Pulse.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQT16djM1Vc&feature=youtu.be[/media]
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35009095]Desire HD, 1.8ghz, ICS 4.0.3, only "stuttering" I get is on pulse, but pulse has never worked 100% for me.[/QUOTE]
Interestingly, I also have a Desire HD. Not on ICS though.
(My tablet is a TF101)
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;35009484]Interestingly, I also have a Desire HD. Not on ICS though.
(My tablet is a TF101)[/QUOTE]
If you end up getting ICS, get Ice cold sandwich virtuous quattro, definitely the best ICS for Desire HD so far, almost perfect other than the camera still being a little buggy.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35009159]Recording one now.
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I did a few things, not the pulldown though but that works fine, I wouldn't expect the pulldown menu to not work if the app drawer does.
Also off a clean boot so everything is being loaded the first time except Pulse.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQT16djM1Vc&feature=youtu.be[/media][/QUOTE]
My Nexus S does just about as well, the only app I have the odd bit of trouble with is Chrome, the tile rendering sometimes takes a while to show up, that's all.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;35009159]Recording one now.
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I did a few things, not the pulldown though but that works fine, [b]I wouldn't expect the pulldown menu to not work if the app drawer does.[/b]
Also off a clean boot so everything is being loaded the first time except Pulse.
[/QUOTE]
Indeed, but that app drawer definitely isn't running at 60fps and the scrolling in the phone app looked a little sluggish as well. Pulse is a shitty app and I couldn't really see the Gmail scrolling so I won't comment on that. I'm also wondering how it would run if it was clocked at stock 1GHz rather than 1.8, but it doesn't really matter. I'm just saying that even a 1.8GHz single core with 786MB of ram on Android can't always keep up with 1GHz phones with 512MB of ram on iOS or WP7.
Thanks for the video though. It did run smoother than I expected, but not enough for my liking. I'm actually planning to move from my SGS II to a WP7 or iOS device, not quite sure yet. One more question. That DHD ICS rom is obviously a custom one. Has HTC said whether it will ever receive an official ICS update or has it already been abandoned as a "legacy device"
That was at stock, non-overclocked, and I'm only recording it at 25fps using my webcam so it's not going to look silky smooth, but it looks just fine to me in person, not sluggish or laggy at all, and that was on a clean boot.
Also I very much doubt HTC will be releasing updates anymore, but thanks to the openness of android and XDAdevs I'll be getting updates for quite a while.
[quote]It's smooth, but not smooth enough[/quote]
Jesus fuck nohome, you're literally nitpicking.
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;35009722]Jesus fuck nohome, you're literally nitpicking.[/QUOTE]
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But when my Core 2 Duo started to show its age in games I upgraded to keep at 60fps. I'm not sure why I would be expected to do differently with my mobile phone.
Also nice job with your little false quote. That's not even remotely what I said. I said it was smooth in some areas and not in others, and that it just wasn't to my liking. I'm not telling David that he's wrong and his phone is bad, I'm just saying what I think and what I see.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35009822]That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But when my Core 2 Duo started to show its age in games I upgraded to keep at 60fps. I'm not sure why I would be expected to do differently with my mobile phone.
Also nice job with your little false quote. That's not even remotely what I said. I said it was smooth in some areas and not in others, and that it just wasn't to my liking. I'm not telling David that he's wrong and his phone is bad, I'm just saying what I think and what I see.[/QUOTE]
But unlike XP to W7, which required better hardware, ICS makes older hardware run much faster, and good hardware has literally no lag unless you're an idiot and start configuring things you shouldn't be.
I'd honestly go for the Windows Phone. If you don't really need the extra screen space, get the Radar. Much newer Snapdragon processor, and a better camera. The Lumia 710 is also pretty swell - cheaper - and not as nice, but pretty swell indeed.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35011050]I'd honestly go for the Windows Phone. If you don't really need the extra screen space, get the Radar. Much newer Snapdragon processor, and a better camera. The Lumia 710 is also pretty swell - cheaper - and not as nice, but pretty swell indeed.[/QUOTE]
I played with the Lumia 710 at the Rogers store across the road. My only complaint was the front buttons feeling sort of cheap, everything else was great. For $250 or less off contract it's a really great way to try out WP7.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35011370]I played with the Lumia 710 at the Rogers store across the road. My only complaint was the front buttons feeling sort of cheap, everything else was great. For $250 or less off contract it's a really great way to try out WP7.[/QUOTE]
Well, it's a pretty darn cheap phone, and they've got to cheap out somewhere. Wouldn't necessarily recommend it over the HD7S, but the camera's better, and I imagine battery life is as well.
8888th post. I will celebrate. I will.
It's an accepted fact that Android is much more prone to graphical stuttering than its iOS and WP7 counterparts. It's a limitation in the software, and in some cases, hardware.
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