PSNI warns to prosecute Facebook users who post "grossly offensive" messages
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12398838[/url]
[quote=BBC]
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The PSNI posted the warning on its own Facebook page
The police have warned Facebook users posting offensive messages about the deaths of two children in west Belfast that they may face prosecution.
Ciara Doherty, 11, and 13-year-old Martin Rooney took their own lives in the past two weeks.
Using its own [URL="http://www.facebook.com/PoliceServiceNI#%21/notes/police-service-of-northern-ireland/grossly-offensive-statements-posted-on-facebook/124775577595375"]Facebook[/URL] page, the PSNI said it was taking the "grossly offensive" messages seriously and would work to identify those responsible.
It said they could be prosecuted under the Telecommunications Act.[/quote]
The warning: [url]http://www.facebook.com/notes/police-service-of-northern-ireland/grossly-offensive-statements-posted-on-facebook/124775577595375[/url]
Freedom of speech means nothing apparently.
I'm for freedom of speech and all, but stuff like this can be an exception in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;27935379]I'm for freedom of speech and all, but stuff like this can be an exception in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
then you're not for freedom of speech
[QUOTE=Explosions;27935377]Freedom of speech means nothing apparently.[/QUOTE]
Who said Ireland had absolute freedom of speech?
Most places don't, not even America does.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27935463]Who said Ireland had absolute freedom of speech?
Most places don't, not even America does.[/QUOTE]
I never said it did. But I've never heard of someone being prosecuted due to "cyber-bullying" (which is what this sounds like).
Protip: If people are saying mean things to you over the computer, don't read what they type.
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Also, this is in the U.K. right? Not the Republic of Ireland.
Say what you want but you're not allowed to type it
[QUOTE=Explosions;27935500]I never said it did. But I've never heard of someone being prosecuted due to "cyber-bullying" (which is what this sounds like).
Protip: If people are saying mean things to you over the computer, don't read what they type.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment_by_computer[/url]
[quote][B]Harassment by computer[/B] is a crime in several U.S. states.
Harassment by computer statutes are typically distinct from cyberbullying laws, in that the former usually relate to a person's "use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act," while the latter need not involve anything of a sexual nature.[/quote]
It is actually a criminal offense in some states.
I can understand this, after all being a huge dick to a grieving family isn't the brightest of ideas. Hopefully they don't go around flinging court summons at everyone who posts anything negative.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;27935529][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment_by_computer[/URL]
It is actually a criminal offense in some states.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure harassing a dead person is not cyber bulling them. Whether they're alive or dead makes a difference.
If that was the case, the Westboro picketers would have been locked up a long time ago, especially since they even do it during the funerals (far away from them but still close by).
[QUOTE=leach139;27935603]I can understand this, after all being a huge dick to a grieving family isn't the brightest of ideas. Hopefully they don't go around flinging court summons at everyone who posts anything negative.[/QUOTE]
Then it's not freedom of speech. You can't just pick and choose what you feel is unpleasant to hear about and make it illegal.
[QUOTE=Explosions;27935652]Then it's not freedom of speech. You can't just pick and choose what you feel is unpleasant to hear about and make it illegal.[/QUOTE]
What I think they're trying to go for here are trolls who are just out to make the family's life as horrible as possible, they aren't trying to go for freedom of speech (that'd be like charging people who just made a comment about who killed him).
Maybe I'm just talking gibberish, I'm rather tired
[QUOTE=leach139;27935679]What I think they're trying to go for here are trolls who are just out to make the family's life as horrible as possible, they aren't trying to go for freedom of speech (that'd be like charging people who just made a comment about who killed him)[/QUOTE]
Who's to say what other people are allowed to talk about?
[QUOTE=Explosions;27935652]Then it's not freedom of speech. You can't just pick and choose what you feel is unpleasant to hear about and make it illegal.[/QUOTE]
It has already been established that "freedom of speech" doesn't exist and that different jurisdictions (even within in the US) draw the lines in the different places
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[QUOTE=Explosions;27935714]Who's to say what other people are allowed to talk about?[/QUOTE]
Government I guess
Your government tells you that you aren't allowed to harass or slander someone, you can't lie in court either, so you really don't have any more freedom of speech than other people do
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27935463]not even America does.[/QUOTE]
Not anymore. We're a Socialist state like most of the world now.
[QUOTE=faze;27935753]Not anymore. We're a Socialist state like most of the world now.[/QUOTE]
Obama hasn't changed freedom of speech laws one iota, take your trolling elsewhere
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27935761]Obama hasn't changed freedom of speech laws one iota, take your trolling elsewhere[/QUOTE]
I'm not trolling... Do you choose to ignore news?
[QUOTE=faze;27935753]Not anymore. We're a Socialist state like most of the world now.[/QUOTE]
Look out for communist nazi Obama and his socialist Obamacare!
Good thing they're Irish police and don't have jurisdiction over Texas.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;27935529][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment_by_computer[/url]
It is actually a criminal offense in some states.[/QUOTE]
Cool, it was passed in Virginia so that means i break the law when I say, FUCK YOU AND KILL YOURSELF!
:cool: fuk da poleece :cool:
[QUOTE=faze;27935772]I'm not trolling... Do you choose to ignore news?[/QUOTE]
Care to actually prove your argument or no
Fucking cyberpolice.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27935820]Care to actually prove your argument or no[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-portland/why-is-obamacare-unconstitutional-1[/URL]
He also is 100% for gun control, which is unconstitutional, at least in the manor he's proposing.
[url]http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/barack_obama_gun_control.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=faze;27935852][url]http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-portland/why-is-obamacare-unconstitutional-1[/url][/quote]
Okay that had nothing to do with freedom of speech AND it's an editorial that means nothing
The constitutionality of things is for the supreme court to decide, not some blogger
[QUOTE=faze;27935852]He also is 100% for gun control, which is unconstitutional.[/QUOTE]
Is that why he, overall, has eased gun control laws? (Allowing them in parks)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27935874]Okay that had nothing to do with freedom of speech
Is that why he, overall, has eased gun control laws? (Allowing them in parks)[/QUOTE]
See above link, edited the post.
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Obama on Freedom of Speech: [URL]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28906[/URL]
And the deficit under Obama: [url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027181656362948.html[/url]
[QUOTE=8BitLord;27935818]Cool, it was passed in Virginia so that means i break the law when I say, FUCK YOU AND KILL YOURSELF!
:cool: fuk da poleece :cool:[/QUOTE]
Fuck the what
[quote]If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. [/quote]
Glad I'll be able to move in 2 years
[QUOTE=faze;27935892]See above link, edited the post.
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Obama on Freedom of Speech: [URL]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28906[/URL][/QUOTE]
Hahaha look at the ad at the top.
"JIHAD WATCH!!!"
[QUOTE=Explosions;27935957]Hahaha look at the ad at the top.
"JIHAD WATCH!!!"[/QUOTE]
Bitch about the ad, and ignore all of the factual statements in the article. Brilliant.
[QUOTE=faze;27935994]Bitch about the ad, and ignore all of the factual statements in the article. Brilliant.[/QUOTE]
That's not a random ad. It's there since it's a copy pasta from JihadWatch.
That's worse then linking to an opinion article on Obama from Fox.
[url]http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/10/spencer-obama-wages-war-on-freedom-of-speech.html[/url] See?
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