Clinton Campaign to spend half of it's campaign budget on advertising as it faces increasing pressur - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Democrat Hillary Clinton plans to pour half of her presidential campaign's budget into advertising in the first three months of this year as she seeks to fend off an increasingly tough challenge from chief rival Bernie Sanders, according to a summary of her spending plans reviewed by Reuters. The first-quarter advertising blitz would represent almost a doubling of the proportion of money that the campaign devoted to such spending, on average, during 2015. The report, prepared by her team's finance committee, aims to paint a picture of a fiscally prudent campaign operation that has been spending heavily on digital tools and organizing last year and is now ready to ramp up ad spending as the 2016 White House race moves into a critical new phase.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSMTZSAPEC1F0JA7T1[/url]

What are campaign budgets usually spent on? I always figured advertising was a huge part of it.

Starting to look more and more like Sanders may actually win the nomination based off the polls coming out of Iowa and New Hampshire. This is exciting. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538482]What are campaign budgets usually spent on? I always figured advertising was a huge part of it.[/QUOTE] lots and lots and lots of travelling around different states

[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;49538494]Starting to look more and more like Sanders may actually win the nomination based off the polls coming out of Iowa and New Hampshire. This is exciting. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] lots and lots and lots of travelling around different states[/QUOTE] Trump, representing traditinal American capitalism and Bernie, representing the care for the workers and regulation the nation once had. Tough fight.

Trump represents the white working class, not so much traditional american capitalism. I don't think that's even possible anymore, we can never go back. Bernie has no class edge for a socialist, it's all postmodern SJW identities that will be the 'left' behind him. He's also to the right of his idols like Eugene Debs.

[QUOTE=Conscript;49538516]Trump represents the white working class, not so much traditional american capitalism. I don't think that's even possible anymore, we can never go back. Bernie has no class edge for a socialist, it's all postmodern SJW identities that will be the 'left' behind him. He's also to the right of his idols like Eugene Debs.[/QUOTE] How the fuck does Trump represent the working class, because he speaks with a 4th grade English level?

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538482]What are campaign budgets usually spent on? I always figured advertising was a huge part of it.[/QUOTE] Paying staff, data compiling, rent on offices, etc. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;49538516]Trump represents the white working class, not so much traditional american capitalism. I don't think that's even possible anymore, we can never go back. Bernie has no class edge for a socialist, it's all postmodern SJW identities that will be the 'left' behind him. He's also to the right of his idols like Eugene Debs.[/QUOTE] Kinda offensive to say he represents the White working class when he said wages are too low and believes privatized health insurance and no regulation on Wall Street is good.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538534]How the fuck does Trump represent the working class, because he speaks with a 4th grade English level?[/QUOTE] The *white* working class. And not exactly but it sounds like you already have the right idea [QUOTE]Kinda offensive to say he represents the White working class when he said wages are too low and believes privatized health insurance and no regulation on Wall Street is good.[/quote] The white working class believes in these values and is very very red and GOP leaning, but trump isn't much of an economic liberal ideologue anyway, he's a populist at the core. Anyway, the common democrat line is that they vote against their own interests. But they do so on the basis of race, not class. What's offensive about pointing all this out? I mean in America, contrast to britain, class is heavily obscured by race. Something like privatization in the context of trump has no class character, it's more racial. I honestly don't see the contradiction but I can see how you can pitch this to a white worker in a red state.

[QUOTE=Conscript;49538516]Trump represents the white working class, not so much traditional american capitalism. I don't think that's even possible anymore, we can never go back.[/QUOTE] The billionaire thats anti-regulation and such is the pro-worker one?

Yes. [url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-rides-a-blue-collar-wave-1447803248[/url]

[QUOTE=Conscript;49538551]Something like privatization in the context of trump has no class character, it's more racial.[/QUOTE] I have never heard of privatization talked about in a racial context, aside from the prison industrial complex.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49538503]Trump, representing traditinal American capitalism and Bernie, representing the care for the workers and regulation the nation once had. Tough fight.[/QUOTE] I feel the only real competition trump would have with the democratic party is Hillary. Bernie just does not seem like the guy who would have a backbone debating trump, and would get eaten alive.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538607]I have never heard of privatization talked about in a racial context, aside from the prison industrial complex.[/QUOTE] Because it's basically about going back to a time when regardless of class whites were better off, and unlike europe state interventions and welfarism are mired in race, because class is racialized. It's no coincidence some of the biggest opponents of welfare are white workers, it's because they don't want to pay for non-whites. There's no solidarity there or sense of class, just racial divisions. So suddenly things that'd be considered class warfare on the bosses' side by a european worker, just wouldn't here. Because race. This is the reason why the old left is dead and bernie will never be Eugene Debs.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538534]How the fuck does Trump represent the working class, because he speaks with a 4th grade English level?[/QUOTE] Say what you want but he plays the "self made man corporate worker who can relate" better than any of the career politicians on stage could ever do. One of Trumps strong points that he pushes is that unlike other politicians who have made deals for campaign endorsements and other politicians, is that he is self funding and owes no political favors

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538621]I feel the only real competition trump would have with the democratic party is Hillary. Bernie just does not seem like the guy who would have a backbone debating trump, and would get eaten alive.[/QUOTE] Uh, quite the contrary, I think trump would roast Hillary to death with an absolutely raw and devastating assault on her history, which she would fully deserve, mind you. I think Bernie would stand a much stronger chance against trump than Hillary would, not to mention voters like me would never, ever vote for that fucking slug in human skin anyways (The one that calls itself clinton).

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49538637]Uh, quite the contrary, I think trump would roast Hillary to death with an absolutely raw and devastating assault on her history, which she would fully deserve, mind you. I think Bernie would stand a much stronger chance against trump than Hillary would, not to mention voters like me would never, ever vote for that fucking slug in human skin anyways (The one that calls itself clinton).[/QUOTE] I think both would be roasted, but Bernie just seems like he would be flustered why how upfront and booming Trump can be at times.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538634]Say what you want but he plays the "self made man corporate worker who can relate" better than any of the career politicians on stage could ever do. One of Trumps strong points that he pushes is that unlike other politicians who have made deals for campaign endorsements and other politicians, is that he is self funding and owes no political favors[/QUOTE] Seriously this. Trump is trump it doesn't matter what class he is. He's so real the fact he's rich is even better, because he could be like the rest of the wealthy.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538659]I think both would be roasted, but Bernie just seems like he would be flustered why how upfront and booming Trump can be at times.[/QUOTE] Sanders advocated debates that included GOP candidates. He's in his prime debating Republican businessmen. See 2006. I wouldn't be so sure of Trump winning against Sanders. He has the support of most Democrats, Independents and a large amount of Republicans. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;49538551]The *white* working class. And not exactly but it sounds like you already have the right idea The white working class believes in these values and is very very red and GOP leaning, but trump isn't much of an economic liberal ideologue anyway, he's a populist at the core. Anyway, the common democrat line is that they vote against their own interests. But they do so on the basis of race, not class. What's offensive about pointing all this out? I mean in America, contrast to britain, class is heavily obscured by race. Something like privatization in the context of trump has no class character, it's more racial. I honestly don't see the contradiction but I can see how you can pitch this to a white worker in a red state.[/QUOTE] The white working class does vote against their interest though. The very conservatives you speak of live in areas that accept welfare and other government assistance the most. The reddest states tend to be the poorest. And the poor vote for Republicans because of the common GOP, "We protect your freedom and family values" bullshit.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49538637]Uh, quite the contrary, I think trump would roast Hillary to death with an absolutely raw and devastating assault on her history, which she would fully deserve, mind you. I think Bernie would stand a much stronger chance against trump than Hillary would, not to mention voters like me would never, ever vote for that fucking slug in human skin anyways (The one that calls itself clinton).[/QUOTE] I think Trump is going to take some major shots at Bernie for that time those BLM supporters hijacked a speech of Bernie and took his microphone. I can see Trump responding to that with ''He cannot even protect his podium and microphone, how the hell do you think that he can protect America?'' or something close to that. Despite that, Bernie would put up far more of an actual debate than Hilary would ever do. If Hilary get the nomination, oh boy, that will be a field day for Trump for sure. Hilary got a lot of dirt on herself, and Trump isn't the kind of person who lets an opportunity to completely lay it into an opponent pass. Hell, a Trump vs Hilary debate would probably the biggest demolition job shown in a televised debate ever.

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;49538672]Sanders advocated debates that included GOP candidates. He's in his prime debating Republican businessmen. See 2006. I wouldn't be so sure of Trump winning against Sanders. He has the support of most Democrats, Independents and a large amount of Republicans. [/QUOTE] True but a lot of his support is the young vote, which historically has the lowest voter turn out.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538701]True but a lot of his support is the young vote, which historically has the lowest voter turn out.[/QUOTE] Probably because the young don't care about any specific policy enough to decide which of the lesser evils they want to vote for, sanders is one of the only candidates in recent history that isn't a steaming pile of political horse-shit that actually stands a chance. If it comes to Hillary vs Trump I might not vote either.

[QUOTE]The white working class does vote against their interest though. The very conservatives you speak of live in areas that accept welfare and other government assistance the most. The reddest states tend to be the poorest. And the poor vote for Republicans because of the common GOP, "We protect your freedom and family values" bullshit.[/quote] I know, I know. Just take it as proof that the left can't succeed in a racially polarized environment, it perhaps needs a sense of in group solidarity for welfarism and such. What we're looking at is why America is so much more right wing than europe, economically at least. This is why socialism is not the voice of the (white) worming class, it's extreme liberalism. What America was.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49538712]Probably because the young don't care about any specific policy enough to decide which of the lesser evils they want to vote for, sanders is one of the only candidates in recent history that isn't a steaming pile of political horse-shit that actually stands a chance. If it comes to Hillary vs Trump I might not vote either.[/QUOTE] The same could be said about the Obama 08 election which had quite a young voice, however it eventually turned into a fairly close race [QUOTE=Conscript;49538727]I know, I know. Just take it as proof that the left can't succeed in a racially polarized environment, it perhaps needs a sense of in group solidarity for welfarism and such. What we're looking at is why America is so much more right wing than europe, economically at least. This is why socialism is not the voice of the (white) worming class, it's extreme liberalism. What America was.[/QUOTE] The reason I believe if Trump makes it to the presidential election he will win is because I believe more working class will turn out for Trumps promises of Economic growth and security from IS. Say what you want but those two things will turn heads and turn out voters more than a social equality issue will.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538701]True but a lot of his support is the young vote, which historically has the lowest voter turn out.[/QUOTE] What's the logic in saying this? Do you think the young people who are enthusiastically supporting Bernie aren't going to vote for him? That they're going to sing his praises until the voting comes and suddenly go "Oh, that's right, I'm not supposed to vote, I'm young and young people have low voter turnout"

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538787]What's the logic in saying this? Do you think the young people who are enthusiastically supporting Bernie aren't going to vote for him? That they're going to sing his praises until the voting comes and suddenly go "Oh, that's right, I'm not supposed to vote, I'm young and young people have low voter turnout"[/QUOTE] I am speaking from history [URL]https://www.census.gov/prod/2014pubs/p20-573.pdf[/URL] While yes this election could be different historically speaking young voters have some of the worst turn out in any age group. Given this trend it is safe to say there is a good possibility that many of Bernie's young supporters may not turn out as expected.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49538787]What's the logic in saying this? Do you think the young people who are enthusiastically supporting Bernie aren't going to vote for him? That they're going to sing his praises until the voting comes and suddenly go "Oh, that's right, I'm not supposed to vote, I'm young and young people have low voter turnout"[/QUOTE] The people 'enthusiastically supporting' Sanders aren't a majority of young people. Yes, they will vote for Sanders anyways, but they are a loud minority. Just like how Ron Paul for some reason had heaps of support from young people back in 2012, and look how that turned out. For every 'politically active' young person out there, there are several young people who aren't and probably won't vote. We don't have that problem thanks to compulsory voting, but the U.S. does have that problem.

[QUOTE=Conscript;49538516]Trump represents the white working class, not so much traditional american capitalism. I don't think that's even possible anymore, we can never go back. Bernie has no class edge for a socialist, it's all postmodern SJW identities that will be the 'left' behind him. He's also to the right of his idols like Eugene Debs.[/QUOTE] i too remember getting a small loan of one million dollars from my father while in the working class.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;49540561]i too remember getting a small loan of one million dollars from my father while in the working class.[/QUOTE] Too be fair it was paid back IIRC with full interest, so it isn't THAT different from a bank loan to start a business.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;49540561]i too remember getting a small loan of one million dollars from my father while in the working class.[/QUOTE] I meant more he politically represents them, not as a person. Although, in thought he's pretty in tune. Trump is amazing, I expected a buffoon when he first threatened to run. He really couldn't have come at better time, either.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49540572]Too be fair it was paid back IIRC with full interest, so it isn't THAT different from a bank loan to start a business.[/QUOTE] if i asked for one million dollars to start my business from the actual working class, they would throw me in the loony bin.