Crime-Fighting Daleks Go On Patrol In Silicon Valley - Polidicks

[url]http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/11/18/crime-fighting-robots-go-on-patrol-in-silicon-valley-k5-knightscope-mountain-view-stacy-stephens-autonomous-security-guard/[/url] [url]http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/coming-soon-slow-heavy-shrieking-autonomous-robot-rent-a-cops/[/url] [IMG]http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/v2-0-K5Dude_Crop-640x584.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]MOUNTAIN VIEW (KPIX 5) – A new kind of security guard is on patrol in Silicon Valley: crime-fighting robots that look like they’re straight out of a sci-fi movie. At first glance, the K5 security robot looks like a cartoonish Star Wars character. “The vast majority of people see it and go, ‘Oh my God, that’s so cute.’ We’ve had people go up and hug it, and embrace it for whatever reason,” said Stacy Stephens, co-founder of Knightscope, headquartered in Mountain View. They are unarmed, but they are imposing: about 5 feet tall and 300 pounds, which very likely will make someone think twice before committing a crime in their presence. “The first thing that’s going to happen is the burglar is going to spot the robot. And unfortunately, criminals are inherently lazy. They’re not looking for something that’s going to be confrontational, they’re looking for something that’s going to be an easy target,” said Stacy Stephens, co-founder of Knightscope. “They see the robot and maybe they move down to the next place down the street.” The security robots are autonomous, meaning they operate on their own. They don’t chase a bad guy down or make arrests. They are designed to avoid confrontations. When someone steps right in front of one, the robot will stop. Then it will redirect its path around the person. All the while, sending video inside to a control center where a human is monitoring.[/QUOTE] video in the first link

So people are supposed to be intimidated by a cute robot that's shorter than most people. I don't know about you guys, but my roomba never stopped any burglars. I don't see why this would stop anyone any more than a security camera would. [I]Especially[/I] if they've heard about these previously.

it looks like you could push it over like a trash can and be on your merry way

It's like a morbidly obese roomba [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/F5jPgrD.png[/IMG] reverse american flag confirms it

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534596]Uhm. "They are unarmed, but they are imposing: about 5 feet tall and 300 pounds, which very likely will make someone think twice before committing a crime in their presence." “The vast majority of people see it and go, ‘Oh my God, that’s so cute.’ We’ve had people go up and hug it, and embrace it for whatever reason,” So people are supposed to be intimidated by a cute robot that's shorter than most people. "“The first thing that’s going to happen is the burglar is going to spot the robot. And unfortunately, criminals are inherently lazy. They’re not looking for something that’s going to be confrontational, they’re looking for something that’s going to be an easy target,” said Stacy Stephens, co-founder of Knightscope. “They see the robot and maybe they move down to the next place down the street.” The security robots are autonomous, meaning they operate on their own. They don’t chase a bad guy down or make arrests." I don't know about you guys, but my roomba never stopped any burglars. I don't see why this would stop anyone any more than a security camera would. [I]Especially[/I] if they've heard about these previously.[/QUOTE] they did said the robots have an incredibly loud alarm, that would probably scare away some at least.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;46534607]they did said the robots have an incredibly loud alarm, that would probably scare way some at least.[/QUOTE] so put an alarm in your store and save the money It says in the article that a human is already supposed to be monitoring the footage in real time, so why even bother if these things don't actually confront anyone?

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534615]so put an alarm in your store and save the money It says in the article that a human is already supposed to be monitoring the footage in real time, so why even bother if these things don't actually confront anyone?[/QUOTE] they're much cheaper than an actual security guard according to the video.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;46534630]they're much cheaper than an actual security guard according to the video.[/QUOTE] [quote]All the while, sending video inside to a control center where a human is monitoring.[/quote] According to the article you'll be paying a security guard anyways, so what's the point?

If I were a want-to-be criminal in Silicon Valley, this article has just told me to laugh in the face of these robots, and carry on with my crime.

^ I guess this could give a single guard telepresence over a large area (using multiple bots)

Is this just for the scare factor? As far as the article states, this thing seems to be a glorified security camera on wheels.

And if you're not going to pay someone to watch the video stream live, it's literally just an oversized roomba with a camera strapped on it. According to the article, the alarm only goes off automatically if the robot is attacked. It's supposed to get the license plate of the burglar's vehicle, but I can't see it getting out the door and into the parking lot to take a photo without being toppled. That thing definitely can't make it off a curb. Not only that, how does it determine which vehicle is the burglars if there are multiple vehicles?

You guys will keep laughing until you try to commit a crime and they transform into a giant robot capable of obliterating your ass with their laser beams.

[T]http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090610044342/superjail/images/f/f8/Jailbot.jpg[/T] It BEGINS

[QUOTE=mix999;46534685]Is this just for the scare factor? As far as the article states, this thing seems to be a glorified security camera on wheels.[/QUOTE] That's what I'm getting from the articles. Judging how they outright say most people find it cute, this thing is pretty fucking useless.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;46534639]If I were a want-to-be criminal in Silicon Valley, this article has just told me to laugh in the face of these robots, and carry on with my crime.[/QUOTE] And then they would have a video of you laughing right into a camera and then committing a crime.

[QUOTE=squids_eye;46534717]And then they would have a video of you laughing right into a camera and then committing a crime.[/QUOTE] Again, how is this better than just having a security camera in the store? Most people prepare for security cameras by wearing a mask of some sort anyways.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534596]So people are supposed to be intimidated by a cute robot that's shorter than most people. I don't know about you guys, but my roomba never stopped any burglars. I don't see why this would stop anyone any more than a security camera would. [I]Especially[/I] if they've heard about these previously.[/QUOTE] The robot standing next to you while you commit crime means that somebody in a control room is dispatching a cruiser full of actual cops to your location with your description. Think of it less less like of a dalek and more of as a [img]https://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/8/85/Combine_scanner.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Sgt. Lulz;46534702][T]http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090610044342/superjail/images/f/f8/Jailbot.jpg[/T] It BEGINS[/QUOTE] This is exactly what I was hoping for when I opened the thread.

In before they steal the expensive robot. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme reply" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534744]Again, how is this better than just having a security camera in the store? Most people prepare for security cameras by wearing a mask of some sort anyways.[/QUOTE] Security areas have far lesser psychological effect. They are more effective but most people don't even notice them.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46534747]The robot standing next to you while you commit crime means that somebody in a control room is dispatching a cruiser full of actual cops to your location with your description. Think of it less less like of a dalek and more of as a [/QUOTE] How many times do I have to say "What's the difference between that and a security camera?" If you're going to spend the money on this useless robot and somebody to watch the feed, then you can spend the money on a security camera with a live feed and someone to watch it.

Okay, so what's stopping someone from taking control of these via hacking or signal jamming, and just having a dandy old time being a criminal still.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534765]How many times do I have to say "What's the difference between that and a security camera?" If you're going to spend the money on this useless robot and somebody to watch the feed, then you can spend the money on a security camera with a live feed and someone to watch it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46534762]Security areas have far lesser psychological effect. They are more effective but most people don't even notice them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46534762]Security areas have far lesser psychological effect. They are more effective but most people don't even notice them.[/QUOTE] Most burglars play it safe and assume there's a security camera anyways. The psychological factor is a fair point, but I don't see many shop owners banking on an oversized roomba scaring away burglars.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46534767]Okay, so what's stopping someone from taking control of these via hacking or signal jamming, and just having a dandy old time being a criminal still.[/QUOTE] life isnt a hollywood movie

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46534767]Okay, so what's stopping someone from taking control of these via hacking or signal jamming, and just having a dandy old time being a criminal still.[/QUOTE] I'm sure there's encryption and other security measures that wouldn't make it worth hacking in to. I don't imagine most burglars have signal jammers. However, there's nothing stopping you from pushing it over or putting tape over the camera lens.

[QUOTE=CQRPSE;46534784]life isnt a hollywood movie[/QUOTE] There's nothing unrealistic about a lazy security guard setting it's password to "1234", "QWERTY" or "password". That's assuming it has the same security as a webcam.

This is a proof of concept and prototype if anything. It's outright impossible to build something that could try to restrain people, god forbid actually use force against them, that's a legislative nightmare and you have zero chance of getting that marketed, and if one of your robots did somehow harm somebody, your company can kiss it's sweet ass goodbye. These are nothing but surveillance dildos meant to shoo away junkies to go bother somebody else. Yes, they won't start actual dedicated robbers with an intent and a plan. That's not what they are intended for either. [editline]20th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;46534800]I'm sure there's encryption and other security measures that wouldn't make it worth hacking in to. I don't imagine most burglars have signal jammers. However, there's nothing stopping you from pushing it over or putting tape over the camera lens.[/QUOTE] Tipping one over will probably be faster way of getting cops to your location than calling 911.

Well this is awesome. I got my security guard licence in July and already I'm being replaced by robots.