Over the course of the past few years I've asked more people than I can count which war they find more intriguing, and almost always it is the Second World War. The media also(Hollywood, the History Channel, I'm looking at you), highly favors WWII, whilst WWI get's very little if any screentime.
World War I was the cataclysm of empires, the peak of Imperialism, the dawning of a new age. It combined deadly new weaponry with conservative generals using old tactics that didn't work anymore. A recipe for disaster. There were so many more factors playing into why each side was fighting, with heroes on both sides, not just a clean cut good vs. evil scenario. I could go on and on, but I want to know what you think fpers, which world war do you find more intriguing.
(One requirement, if you say you don't like WW1 more because it's "boring and all trench warfare," then you, my friend, are an idiot, because that couldn't be more wrong. The little media coverage WWI DOES get only speaks of the trench warfare on the western front, not of the flexible and deadly Eastern front, or of the cat and mouse game in the middle east with Britain, the Balkan states, and the Ottoman Empire.
the second one
World War 2.
Any particular reason why both of you like it more?
The first world war was just a huge badly organised slaughter.
World war two had more tactics and more advanced weaponry.
WW1 had the rise of tanks and automatic weapons, but WW2's technology and pure entropy destroyed the world on which it was fought.
WWI was a stalemate in trenches.
I like reading about both equally. I don't think they should be celebrated though. As war is just a worthless waste of life.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;21811541]I like reading about both equally. I don't think they should be celebrated though. As war is just a worthless waste of life.[/QUOTE]
I agree that it is interesting to see how the two relate to each other other than simply the first one and it's sequel. For instance france building the Maginot line and hunkering down behind it because they thought the germans would try to overwhelm then en la WWI.
WWI and WWII Were both mainly about germany trying to take over half of europe. WWI less so, But WWII More so.
Wwii
Both wars
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;21811541]I like reading about both equally. I don't think they should be celebrated though. As war is just a worthless waste of life.[/QUOTE]
without ww1 and 2 we would still be at the technological level from just before ww2 on average
think; no computers, rockets etc etc
not just because they where invented in ww2, but because the basis for all these things was also invented in ww2, and often the basis for that basis aswell
As far as I'm concerned, in WWI Britain and France were nearly as dogmatic in their interests as Germany(expansion, and control). Don't forget that these countries had age old rivalries starting with Napoleon.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;21811624]without ww1 and 2 we would still be at the technological level from just before ww2 on average
think; no computers, rockets etc etc
not just because they where invented in ww2, but because the basis for all these things was also invented in ww2, and often the basis for that basis aswell[/QUOTE]
But still, war is a terrible thing we shouldn't see as something to celebrate.
When i think WWI, i think mud, death, desiese, barbed wire, gas, blood, gore and rust.
When i think WWII, i think of tactics, technololgy, jews, blitzkrieg and squad combat.
WW2 was full of strategy, a genocide, bombings, emergence of technology that greatly impacted the world, and one side you could see as an actual bad guy.
WWI was some guys taking pot shots at each other from trenches for no real reason.
Wii
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I mean Wwi
[QUOTE=Mexican;21811679]WW2 was full of strategy, a genocide, bombings, emergence of technology that greatly impacted the world, and one side you could see as an actual bad guy.
WWI was some guys taking pot shots at each other from trenches for no real reason.[/QUOTE]
Are you forgetting the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottomans? And two sides taking pot shots at each other? What truth is that rooted in?
WWII
better guns.
WW2
WW1 was an absolute rape fest, like the trench warfare
The First World War is by far more interesting because it's such a pinnacle turning point in history, not just for Europe, but for the whole world.
It ended the the rule of monarchies, ended a lot of imperialism (not all, but a lot), and what not. The First World War directly can be tied to the reasons for the Second World War, and indirectly to the Cold War, and even to today's Middle East problems.
It led to the improvement of flight, transportation, medical research and many other new things, despite being focusing on death.
World War One changed the face of the world. World War Two just changed a few borders afterward.
And, WWI wasn't just about trench warfare. You're all being too narrow sighted. The entire war did NOT take place in north eastern France. It was a WORLD WAR, after all. There was fighting in Africa between colonies, oceanic battles in the North Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, the Atlantic, and EVEN the Pacific Ocean. There were mountain raids between Italy and Austria, bombardments of Belgrade in Serbia, revolutionaries in Russia.
You people need to read more about your history for this war. If you honestly think there was just 4 years of "shooting across no man's land" in France for four years, then Germany suddenly gave up, then you're being very ignorant.
Anyone know that Japan not only declared war on the Central Powers, but actually sent two Destroyers to the Mediterranean Sea to aid the British against the Austrian and Ottoman navies?
Does anyone realize that the Allies had sent armies into Russia after the revolution to stop the communists?
I find the first war utterly boring.
Second world war, it was the start of modern warfare tactics.
World war one on the other hand still used the same sort of 'sent men towards the enemy until eventually the overwhelming numbers over power them'.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;21811748]The First World War is by far more interesting because it's such a pinnacle turning point in history, not just for Europe, but for the whole world.
It ended the the rule of monarchies, ended a lot of imperialism (not all, but a lot), and what not. The First World War directly can be tied to the reasons for the Second World War, and indirectly to the Cold War, and even to today's Middle East problems.
It led to the improvement of flight, transportation, medical research and many other new things, despite being focusing on death.
World War One changed the face of the world. World War Two just changed a few borders afterward.[/QUOTE]
Out of six empires involved, two survived. Germany, Austria-Hunagry, Imperial Russia, and the Ottomans all collapsed after the war. The Ottomans collapsing is especially significant as it was the empire that ended the middle ages 500 years ago, and frightened western powers for hundreds of years following.
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;21811805]Out of six empires involved, two survived. Germany, Austria-Hunagry, Imperial Russia, and the Ottomans all collapsed after the war. The Ottomans collapsing is especially significant as it was the empire that ended the middle ages 500 years ago, and frightened western powers for hundreds of years following.[/QUOTE]
Didn't the Treaty of Versailles pretty much end all of the empires?
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;21811805]Out of six empires involved, two survived. Germany, Austria-Hunagry, Imperial Russia, and the Ottomans all collapsed after the war. The Ottomans collapsing is especially significant as it was the empire that ended the middle ages 500 years ago, and frightened western powers for hundreds of years following.[/QUOTE]
Japan fought in the war, and Italy was actually a Kingdom at the time, so technically that adds more to the list of empires. Serbia was a Kingdom as well, along with Bulgaria being an empire headed by a Czar.
WW1 ´cause we were the good guys!
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;21811823]Didn't the Treaty of Versailles pretty much end all of the empires?[/QUOTE]
No, it merely ended the empires that lost. England kept all its colonial holdings, and France, despite being a republic, kept their colonial holdings as well making it in the best definition of an "empire".
[QUOTE=MadMaxJ;21811840]WW1 ´cause we were the good guys![/QUOTE]
Nobody were 'the good guys' during world war one.
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