CANADA: Federal legislation on legalizing marijuana unveiled - Polidicks

[QUOTE]OTTAWA – Adults 18 and older will be able to legally buy and cultivate small amounts of marijuana for personal use, while selling the drug to a minor will become a serious new criminal offence under the federal Liberal government’s proposed new legal-pot regime. The new law would allow adults 18 and over to possess up to 30 grams of dried cannabis or its equivalent in public, share up to 30 grams of dried marijuana with other adults and buy cannabis or cannabis oil from a provincially regulated retailer. They would also be permitted to grow up to four plants per residence for personal use, as well as make legal cannabis-containing products at home. The government says it intends to bring other products, including pot-infused edibles, into the legalized sphere once federal regulations for production and sale are developed and brought into force. “The current system of prohibition is failing our kids,” said Liberal MP Bill Blair, a former Toronto police chief and the government’s point man on the legalized-marijuana file. The plan is to have a legalized-pot system in place by the end of June 2018, he added. [/quote] [B]Source:[/B] [url]http://globalnews.ca/news/3377577/marijuana-legislation-announcement-canada/[/url]

as it should be

A little blurry but very informative [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/656tyx/the_new_rules_for_legal_marijuana_in_canada_under/[/url] [quote][B][ALLOWED][/B] [B]Possession up to the limit[/B] -Up to 30 grams in public of licit dried cannabis and equivalent in non-dried -Sharing up to 30 grams among adults [B]Purchase and consumption[/B] -From a licensed retailer -Minimum age of 18 (or higher if set by province/territory) -Up to possession limit (30 grams) -Initially available: dried and fresh cannabis, cannabis oil -Other products (e.g. edibles) available later [B]Home cultivation[/B] -Up to 4 plants per residence -From legal seeds/seedlings -Up to 100cm in height -Local oversight (e.g. registration or permit) -Make cannabis-containing products at home, such as food and drink -No use of dangerous organic solvents [B]Medical[/B] -Access to cannabis for medical purposes will be maintained -Authorization of health care professional -Home or designated production -Direct order from licensed producer with secure delivery through mail or by courier [B][PROHIBITED][/B] [B]Driving within two hours of having an illegal level of drugs in blood (NEW) *[/B] -Penalties can range from $1,000 to life imprisonment depending on the level of drugs in blood and whether someone was hurt or killed [B]Illegal distribution or sale[/B] -Tickets for small amounts -Up to 14 years in jail [B]Possession over the limit[/B] -Tickets for small amounts -Up to 5 years less a day in jail [B]Giving or selling to youth (NEW)[/B] -Up to 14 years in jail [B]Using a youth to commit a cannabis-related offence (NEW)[/B] -Up to 14 years in jail [B]Taking cannabis across international borders[/B] -Up to 14 years in jail [B]Production of cannabis beyond home cultivation limits or with dangerous organic solvents[/B] -Tickets for small amounts -Up to 14 years in jail [I]*In proposed impaired driving legislation[/I][/quote]

[QUOTE]Driving within two hours of having an illegal level of drugs in blood[/QUOTE] I'm curious how the hell they are going to do this. [QUOTE]Up to 14 years in jail Production of cannabis beyond home cultivation limits[/QUOTE] This is pretty fucking draconian. I mean small steps I understand, but it needs to be fixed in the future. Fuck at worse just give them a fine and confiscate the extra plant to give to a dispensary. But we gotta take small steps where we can.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52100586]This is pretty fucking draconian. I mean small steps I understand, but it needs to be fixed in the future. Fuck at worse just give them a fine and confiscate the extra plant to give to a dispensary. But we gotta take small steps where we can.[/QUOTE] its up to 14 years and besides its not that hard to keep the stuff under the limit its not like a plant magically pops up lmao

[QUOTE=Saturn V;52100594]its up to 14 years and besides its not that hard to keep the stuff under the limit its not like a [B]plant magically pops up[/B] lmao[/QUOTE] It can happen, let me tell you that. I mean it's obviously not total magic, but if you aren't careful it is easy to do. But I think if that happens there should be something where if the plant is a juvenile all you get is a small fine.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52100601]It can happen, let me tell you that. I mean it's obviously not total magic, but if you aren't careful it is easy to do. But I think if that happens there should be something where if the plant is a juvenile all you get is a small fine.[/QUOTE] allow me to rephrase myself then its not like a fully grown weed plant pops up lmao

[QUOTE=Megadave;52100586]I'm curious how the hell they are going to do this. This is pretty fucking draconian. I mean small steps I understand, but it needs to be fixed in the future. Fuck at worse just give them a fine and confiscate the extra plant to give to a dispensary. But we gotta take small steps where we can.[/QUOTE] This is Canada. You probably aren't going to be in jail for 14 years even if you get charged with it.

So, a comfortable bakers'-dozen edge over an ounce for legal public possession, get a permit or at least inform the city/local cops that you're operating a [I]personal[/I] legal grow op, edibles to be sorted out once they work out flower and oil, decriminalizing possession/sale of small amounts in excess of an ounce while keeping serious black-market operations illegal, and basically treating weed like alcohol when it comes to giving it to kids or DUI. This is what should've been already in place, but we were saddled with King Kitten Sweatervest. I wish edibles were more immediately on the slate, but I can understand that it'd be important to first establish the base rules for flower/oil and then they can figure out how to safely sell things that, once removed from their packages, are potentially indistinguishable from ordinary cookies/candy except for a slightly funny taste. It'd be kind of bad if an eight-year-old got into anxiety-freakout levels of highness from eating a few packages of dad's medicated gummies without being aware of their purpose. [editline]13th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadave;52100586]This is pretty fucking draconian. I mean small steps I understand, but it needs to be fixed in the future. Fuck at worse just give them a fine and confiscate the extra plant to give to a dispensary. But we gotta take small steps where we can.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that's there to prevent "personal" operations from becoming accidentally-onpurpose black market ops. Four, not fourty-four, etc. Same reason why possession of small amounts over the 30g limit means a ticket, but they reserve the right to throw you in jail for up to five years if the RCMP pull you over and find 10 pounds in the back.

Fair, Canadian cops are different than US cops. Though I will say 4 plants is plenty if you do it right, I mean fuck: [IMG]https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/inlineimage/630x0/!Eli-Bilton-Oregon_30884.jpg[/IMG]

:v: That's probably where you will see a fine, they're only allowed to be 100cm tall

whoops didn't see that part, though they are very easy to keep under that limit, can get some good horizontal ones.

Looks like I'm going to Canada in June 2018

If only our federal government could be this sensible.

The plant size restrictions and home production bits are a tad ridiculous, but a step in the right direction overall.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52100677]Fair, Canadian cops are different than US cops. Though I will say 4 plants is plenty if you do it right, I mean fuck: [IMG]https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/inlineimage/630x0/!Eli-Bilton-Oregon_30884.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] That's hella taller than 100cm though. [QUOTE]Home cultivation -Up to 4 plants per residence -From legal seeds/seedlings -Up to 100cm in height[/QUOTE]

[quote]-From legal seeds/seedlings[/quote] HAH! Like fuck you'll be able to tell the difference.

[QUOTE=pentium;52107216]HAH! Like fuck you'll be able to tell the difference.[/QUOTE] Unless you can prove legality they'll probably confiscate it.

[QUOTE=pentium;52107216]HAH! Like fuck you'll be able to tell the difference.[/QUOTE] You'll probably get a receipt or some certificate saying you bought X plant on Y date etc etc. If you can't produce that, rip plant.

Many of these rules just seem stupid. [editline]16th April 2017[/editline] Imagine throwing someone in jail for having a few cartons of smokes or too many bottles of wine.

probably not gonna be great weed if you can only buy and grow from licensed dealers.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52108504]probably not gonna be great weed if you can only buy and grow from licensed dealers.[/QUOTE] you ever thought about the possibility that only the best growers will receive a license?

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52108504]probably not gonna be great weed if you can only buy and grow from licensed dealers.[/QUOTE] You can get it from dispensaries as well I think, my father gets his prescription filled out at "Marijuana for Trauma: Veterans helping Veterans" and it's pretty great stuff so hopefully he'd be able to get seeds from them. Here's their website if you wanna give it a check [url]https://mftgroup.ca/[/url]

Cool, I can actually curb my anxiety instead of just replacing it with anxiety about going to jail

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52108504]probably not gonna be great weed if you can only buy and grow from licensed dealers.[/QUOTE] I imagine licencing will be up to the provinces so it might vary from province to province. BC and Ontario already have very large and diverse recreational marijuana industries, even if it's still technically illegal, so I don't foresee this being an issue in those provinces.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;52107955]Unless you can prove legality they'll probably confiscate it.[/QUOTE] It's innocent until proven guilty, they have to prove they're illegal. Also that growing limit is really stupid. I can make as much beer and wine at home and now I can grow up to four plants, but if I grow 5 I can be sent to prison for 14 years? How does the crime fit the punishment?

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52109027]It's innocent until proven guilty, they have to prove they're illegal. Also that growing limit is really stupid. I can make as much beer and wine at home and now I can grow up to four plants, but if I grow 5 I can be sent to prison for 14 years? How does the crime fit the punishment?[/QUOTE] did you miss where it says tickets for small amounts? 14 years would be the maximum penalty, which would almost certainly be reserved for illegal commercially sized grow ops. No judge is ever going to sentence you to jail for 14 years because you grew 6 marijuana plants, even under the current laws.

[QUOTE=June;52109070]did you miss where it says tickets for small amounts? 14 years would be the maximum penalty, which would almost certainly be reserved for illegal commercially sized grow ops. No judge is ever going to sentence you to jail for 14 years because you grew 6 marijuana plants, even under the current laws.[/QUOTE] Can you find the definition of what a "small amount" is? I'm not willing to bet my freedom on some judges opinion. there's no reason to have that in the legislation and you cant tell me why they did give the judges the ability to sentence people for growing 5 plants because that's exactly what they did. Are you going to win a court appeal because "the judge gave me an unreasonable sentence even though the law allows it?" The Canadian government has extradited people to the U.S for selling seeds before. [quote]On July 29, 2005, Canadian police, acting on a request from the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA),[117] simultaneously raided the BC Marijuana Party Bookstore and Headquarters in Vancouver and arrested Emery for extradition to the United States outside a local storefront in the community of Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia where he was attending a HempFest.[118][119][120] American authorities charged Emery and co-defendants Gregory Keith Williams, 50, of Vancouver, BC and Michelle Rainey-Fenkarek, 34, of Vancouver, BC with "'Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana", "Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana Seeds" and "Conspiracy to Engage in Money Laundering". Even though all the alleged offenses occurred in Canada, Canadian police did not lay any charges.[121] The day of Emery's arrest, American DEA Administrator Karen Tandy released the following statement: Today's DEA arrest of Marc Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture Magazine, and the founder of a marijuana legalization group -- is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement. His marijuana trade and propagandist marijuana magazine have generated nearly $5 million a year in profits that bolstered his trafficking efforts, but those have gone up in smoke today. Emery and his organization had been designated as one of the Attorney General's most wanted international drug trafficking organizational targets -- one of only 46 in the world and the only one from Canada. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery's illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on.[122] Emery was freed on a $50,000 bail and prepared to fight extradition in the courts.[/quote]

That's over 10 years old and I hardly think it's relevant anymore.

[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;52109213]That's over 10 years old and I hardly think it's relevant anymore.[/QUOTE] It just goes to show you can't trust the government or judges to do the "reasonable" thing. If something is stated in a law you can bet you know what their intentions are.