US Army to deploy Individual Gunshot Detector, essentially a radar for bullets
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[quote=engaget]
Latest in our series of "when video games turn real," here's the US Army's newest addition to the wargadget arsenal. The Individual Gunshot Detector, produced by QinetiQ, is an acoustic monitor attuned to tracking down the source of gunshots just by their sound. It has four sensors to pick up the noise of incoming fire, and its analysis of those sound waves produces a readout on a small display that lets the soldier know where the deadly projectiles originated from. The entire system weighs just under two pounds, and while it may not be much help in an actual firefight -- there's no way to distinguish between friendly and hostile fire -- we imagine it'll be a pretty handy tool to have if assaulted by well hidden enemies. 13,000 IGD units are being shipped out to Afghanistan later this month, with a view to deploying 1,500 each month going forward and an ultimate ambition of networking their data so that when one soldier's detector picks up a gunfire source, his nearby colleagues can be informed as well.
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[url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/17/us-army-to-deploy-individual-gunshot-detector-essentially-a-rad/[/url]
[quote=Army.mil]
ARLINGTON, Va. (Army News Service, March 14, 2011) -- U.S. Army forces in Afghanistan will begin receiving the first of more than 13,000 gunshot detection systems for the individual dismounted Soldier later this month, service officials said.
"We're really trying to ensure that every Soldier is protected," said Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, Program Executive Officer Soldier.
The Individual Gunshot Detector, or IGD - made by QinetiQ North America - consists of four small acoustic sensors worn by the individual Soldier and a small display screen attached to body armor that shows the distance and direction of incoming fire.
The small sensor, about the size of a deck of cards, detects the supersonic sound waves generated by enemy gunfire and instantaneously alerts Soldiers to the location and distance toward the hostile fire, said Lt. Col. Chris Schneider, product manager for Soldier Maneuver Sensors.
"When you get fired on, instead of trying to figure everything out, you will have technology to assist you in knowing what happened and where the shot was coming from," Fuller said.
The entire IGD system, procured by PEO Soldier and the Army's Rapid Equipping Force, weighs less than two pounds, Schneider said.
The idea is to strategically disperse the systems throughout small, dismounted units to get maximum protective coverage for platoons, squads and other units on the move, Schneider explained.
Over the next 12 months, the Army plans to field up to 1,500 IGDs per month, he said.
In the future, the Army plans to integrate this technology with its Land Warrior and Nett Warrior systems. These are network-situational-awareness systems for dismounted units, complete with a helmet-mounted display screen that uses GPS digital-mapping-display technology, Fuller said.
"The next thing we want to do is try to integrate this capability with other capabilities; for example, we have Land Warrior deployed in Afghanistan and we're going to have Nett Warrior coming into the force. How about, if you get shot at, not only do I know where that came from, but others know where it came from because I can network that capability," said Fuller.
"It's about how to leverage technology to improve your survivability and situational awareness."
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[url]http://www.army.mil/-news/2011/03/15/53292-army-deploying-individual-gunshot-detector/[/url]
[quote=Gizmag]
In the heat of battle I imagine things can get pretty hectic and pinpointing just where the shooting is coming from, as quickly as possible, could mean the difference between life and death. To give its soldiers an edge in this regard the U.S. Army will begin providing its forces in Afghanistan with the first of 13,000 gunshot detection systems later this month. The Individual Gunshot Detector (IGD) uses the sound waves generated by enemy gunfire to instantaneously determine the location and distance toward the enemy fire.
The IGD, which is made by QinetiQ North America, consists of four small acoustic sensors contained in a box that sits on the soldier's shoulder, which is attached to a small display screen attached to the body armor that displays the distance and direction of incoming fire. The entire system weighs less than two pounds (0.9 kg).
Over the next 12 months, the Army plans to deliver up to 1,500 IGD's to its soldiers per month, with the plan to strategically disperse the systems throughout small, dismounted units to get maximum protective coverage for platoons, squads and other units on the move.
In the future, the Army also plans to integrate the technology with its Land Warrior and Nett Warrior systems. These are network-situational-awareness systems that include a helmet-mounted display screen that uses GPS digital-mapping-display technology that is designed to give dismounted soldiers enhanced tactical awareness.
"The next thing we want to do is try to integrate this capability with other capabilities; for example, we have Land Warrior deployed in Afghanistan and we're going to have Nett Warrior coming into the force. How about, if you get shot at, not only do I know where that came from, but others know where it came from because I can network that capability," said Brig. Gen. Peter Fuller, Program Executive Officer Soldier.
The U.S. Army's US$9.95 million order for the IGD's was placed back in 2008, when the device was known as the Soldier-Wearable Acoustic Targeting System (SWATS), but AOL News reported last year that the need for such technology was identified as far back as 2003 and military bureaucracy only contributed to the long wait between then and now. The soldiers on the ground will no doubt be glad the IGD's are finally on their way.
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[url]http://www.gizmag.com/individual-gunshot-detector/18156/[/url]
Soon they'll have to hook this up to a robotic mini gun, with RPG side armaments
[QUOTE=hegrec;28650906]Soon they'll have to hook this up to a robotic mini gun, with RPG side armaments[/QUOTE]
And watch it shoot itself the first time it activates
omg just like call of duty
More like when hacks turn real
They should also make non-manned aimbotting robots based on thermal vision (make soldiers wear a tag which tells the aimbot to not aim at them). Would be easy, son.
maybe they should improve ballistic vests first, beause the interceptor is heavy as fuck
now they gotta carry this dumb fucking radar thing on their shoulder attached to their MOLLEs
[QUOTE=Moose;28650966]maybe they should improve ballistic vests first, beause the interceptor is heavy as fuck
now they gotta carry this dumb fucking radar thing on their shoulder attached to their MOLLEs[/QUOTE]
What's your function?
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;28650923]And watch it shoot itself the first time it activates[/QUOTE]
Nah bro, It would know the exact time it shot and would not count that within its sensing algorithm. Not that hard to do.
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;28650981]What's your function?[/QUOTE]
its an extra pound and a half ontop of a 30 pound vest, to a guy thats carrying a 9 pound rifle w/ fully loaded mags, carrying even more shit in his pack through desert heat
its just not that convenient to those guys for what it does, i mean they just said theres no way to distinguish between hostile and friendly fire, is it really worth it?
[QUOTE=Moose;28651074]its an extra pound and a half ontop of a 30 pound vest, to a guy thats carrying a 9 pound rifle w/ fully loaded mags, carrying even more shit in his pack through desert heat
its just not that convenient to those guys for what it does, i mean they just said theres no way to distinguish between hostile and friendly fire, is it really worth it?[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you, but if you ask me, being able to locate the directions and possibly even the distance (not sure if it can tell distance) of a sniper would be a HUGE advantage to me and my squad.
I just want robotic power suits that make people impervious to small arms fire. That'll be damned warfare.
Never thought about this, what a genious idea. Getting into proper cover just became a lot easier now that you know where you're getting shot from
Hit detector?
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[QUOTE=wewt!;28651609]Hit detector?
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No, read the article.
It detects the location of gunfire so the soldiers know where it's coming from.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;28651628]No, read the article.
It detects the location of gunfire so the soldiers know where it's coming from.[/QUOTE]
No I mean like
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but without actually getting shot
reminds me of the minimap shot detector in ground control 2
[QUOTE=wewt!;28651732]No I mean like
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but without actually getting shot[/QUOTE]
Oh, I misunderstood.
[QUOTE=s0beit;28650952]More like when hacks turn real
They should also make non-manned aimbotting robots based on thermal vision (make soldiers wear a tag which tells the aimbot to not aim at them). Would be easy, son.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like that could end up with a lot of dead civilians.
They need to make something that can help detect IED's better... That's what has been killing so many.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;28651262]I don't know about you, but if you ask me, being able to locate the directions and possibly even the distance (not sure if it can tell distance) of a sniper would be a HUGE advantage to me and my squad.[/QUOTE]
dunno how effective its going to be when your buddy is right beside you with an m240 tearing shit up, but the article doesnt really show how it works so yeah
[QUOTE=Moose;28651896]dunno how effective its going to be when your buddy is right beside you with an m240 tearing shit up, but the article doesnt really show how it works so yeah[/QUOTE]
It said its not going to be very useful in a firefight. Its for finding the initial shot, for example when a sniper fires upon you.
[editline]17th March 2011[/editline]
Which is pretty much was Mr. Someguy said.
SIlencer perk ggi win
[editline]17th March 2011[/editline]
I mean attachment
On topic, I sincerely doubt I'll ever get the chance to use one of these things, seeing as I'm assigned to an Expeditionary Signal battalion(we get to stay on the FOB all day). Then again I might get a chance to go Airborne so who knows? [QUOTE=Moose;28650966]maybe they should improve ballistic vests first, beause the interceptor is heavy as fuck
now they gotta carry this dumb fucking radar thing on their shoulder attached to their MOLLEs[/QUOTE]
Soldiers have a way of solving this problem: It's called doing PT in the IBA vests with the ballistic plates inserted to get stronger. Instant weight vest. :v:
[QUOTE=Imperfect;28651868]They need to make something that can help detect IED's better... That's what has been killing so many.[/QUOTE]
this would be a better use of R&D money because whenever you see anything about US troops it's usually because of shit like this
[QUOTE=wewt!;28651609]Hit detector?
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I'm pretty sure you really don't/won't need a fancy piece of electronic equipment to tell you if you've been shot in real life. the searing pain from the gunshot wound alone would be sufficient. :v:
[QUOTE=Moose;28651074]its an extra pound and a half ontop of a 30 pound vest, to a guy thats carrying a 9 pound rifle w/ fully loaded mags, carrying even more shit in his pack through desert heat
its just not that convenient to those guys for what it does, i mean they just said theres no way to distinguish between hostile and friendly fire, is it really worth it?[/QUOTE]
US Sargent-"Sniper is up there! We can avoid his line of fire because of we now know where he is."
[QUOTE=Imperfect;28651868]They need to make something that can help detect IED's better... That's what has been killing so many.[/QUOTE]
I heard MRAPs have those. They call it rhino or something. Its mounted at the front of the vehicle.
Nice to see what people are saying in the comments:
[quote]As someone who got back from Afghanistan last year I would not want to carry this (unless proven it really works). And the whole networking thing is (to me) pointless. You should have one per squad/fire team/moving element. Also two pounds on top of all the other two pound gizmos PVT Snuffy already has to carry along with his SAW ammo and grenades and everything else adds up.....quickly. I'm glad I'm out.[/quote]
It's actually a cool idea, but would probably be best suited to vehicles and stuff rather than individual soldiers.
[QUOTE=Swilly;28652979]US Sargent-"Sniper is up there! We can avoid his line of fire because of we now know where he is."[/QUOTE]
No, the American way is to drop a JDAM on him :patriot:
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