[QUOTE=Tuskin;53133898]But is it good?[/QUOTE]
Only blocks some ads. So not very.
[QUOTE]Rival firm Adblock Plus has analysed how effective a CBA ad-detection tool can be, in terms of its ability to block ads described in a CBA white paper published last year.
The analysis found that the CBA blocker failed to prevent ads that re-positioned article text on a web page while users were reading it, for example to make way for auto-playing video ads.
"In total, the new CBA-endorsed ad skimmer will only block 16.4 percent of the ad types listed in its white paper " said a spokeswoman for Adblock Plus.
She added that Adblock Plus blocks 92.7% of ads by comparison.[/QUOTE]
Opera has had this for like a year. It also has a free VPN in private mode.
Opera shill btw
I mean everyone who knows anything is still going to use ublock, because who's gonna trust google with blocking ads, right
[QUOTE=Davoc;53133961]I mean everyone who knows anything is still going to use ublock, because who's gonna trust google with blocking ads, right[/QUOTE]
I would find it completely reasonable to expect them to block ads, then replace them with Google ads.
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I mean this as it's not too far fetched for that to happen, not that it's right or what they are doing.
[QUOTE=Davoc;53133961]I mean everyone who knows anything is still going to use ublock, because who's gonna trust google with blocking ads, right[/QUOTE]
To be fair their plan was to block intrusive and inappropriate ads, not go the usual adblock route of blocking everything.
I'm still going to use ublock, but it's pretty sick that google are trying to make the internet more user friendly.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;53134070]I would find it completely reasonable to expect them to block ads, then replace them with Google ads.[/QUOTE]
Well google ads, while they wont give you malware, is still obnoxious as fuck so I wouldn't bother.
Going to be fun watching everyone who justifies their adblocker with "but malware" shift their arguments until eventually they just have to admit they don't want to see any ads, for any reason, whatsoever, regardless of the sustainability of that mindset.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134132]Going to be fun watching everyone who justifies their adblocker with "but malware" shift their arguments until eventually they just have to admit they don't want to see any ads, for any reason, whatsoever, regardless of the sustainability of that mindset.[/QUOTE]
Ads are annoying and make pages look like shit. I use it so I don't have to see them in the first place. Having extra protection against malware is just a plus.
[QUOTE=Hanso;53134145]Ads are annoying and make pages look like shit. I use it so I don't have to see them in the first place. Having extra protection against malware is just a plus.[/QUOTE]
That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134150]That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.[/QUOTE]
The consequences being that if advertisers want to stay relevant they need to design ads better?
[QUOTE=geel9;53134132]Going to be fun watching everyone who justifies their adblocker with "but malware" shift their arguments until eventually they just have to admit they don't want to see any ads, for any reason, whatsoever, regardless of the sustainability of that mindset.[/QUOTE]
Well, obviously, but this isn't the main things for my parents. Do you know what kinds of ads are out there? I had to install adblocker to my parents because various times this intrusive ads that start spamming audio and tell you to install something appeared and they of course did so, installing multiple malware in the PC which I had to later remove.
So, the main reason is to stop this kind of ads, but as well to stop normal ads. And lets be honest, if it wasn't because the intrusive ads and annoying + shitty ads, we probably wouldn't mind having ads at all.
[QUOTE=Cliff2;53134160]The consequences being that if advertisers want to stay relevant they need to design ads better?[/QUOTE]
The consequences being that ads are how a huge majority of websites -- including ones you use and like -- fund themselves.
We're going to see a lot of websites shutting down, switching to a subscription model (and subsequently shutting down because very few websites can sustain a subscription model), or disguising ads as content such that it's unblockable and, perhaps, not possible to really know if it's an ad.
We both know that there's no "better" form of ads that people who block them will accept. People don't disable their adblocker because the ads [i]they don't see and thus cannot judge[/i] are acceptable to them.
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[QUOTE=geferon;53134173]Well, obviously, but this isn't the main things for my parents. Do you know what kinds of ads are out there? I had to install adblocker to my parents because various times this intrusive ads that start spamming audio and tell you to install something appeared and they of course did so, installing multiple malware in the PC which I had to later remove.
So, the main reason is to stop this kind of ads, but as well to stop normal ads. And lets be honest, if it wasn't because the intrusive ads and annoying + shitty ads, we probably wouldn't mind having ads at all.[/QUOTE]
Well then Google has something you might like.
[QUOTE=Davoc;53133961]I mean everyone who knows anything is still going to use ublock, because who's gonna trust google with blocking ads, right[/QUOTE]
You're right, but this is a smart move for Google. Their goal surely aimed at slowing down, if not reversing, the ever growing population that's using ad blockers.
Think about it: why does the layman install an ad blocker? In most cases, it's to stop getting annoying ads. Popup, autoplaying, seizure-inducing, data-hungry, battery-draining: you get the idea. An ad blocker gets suggested, they install it, and all is well.
Nuking all ads isn't the solution they want, so they're making a default ad blocking behavior that allows the "good" ads and blocks the "bad" ads. User experience improves, so users are less likely to install another ad blocker, meaning Google still gets to serve their own ads.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134132]Going to be fun watching everyone who justifies their adblocker with "but malware" shift their arguments until eventually they just have to admit they don't want to see any ads, for any reason, whatsoever, regardless of the sustainability of that mindset.[/QUOTE]
Why hide it? I dislike the state of modern advertising, nor do I like how ad systems can be (and are) abused for malicious purposes. It all doesn't sit well with me.
[QUOTE=Cliff2;53134160]The consequences being that if advertisers want to stay relevant they need to design ads better?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter how ads are designed; If actively given the choice virtually nobody would elect to see them. Everyone would skip TV ads too if they could. If everyone used ad-blockers there would be very little free content on the Internet.
I use uBlock so I'm a massive hypocrite in that regard. I might however consider using a less aggressive blocker if I was guaranteed to not get served malware or disruptive content, this might be a step in that direction. The ideal future is that we reach a point where the built-in ad-blocker is so good that most users won't bother to install third-party ad-block add-ons.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134150]That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.[/QUOTE]
I. don't. care.
Ads are mostly just annoying, we wouldn't have this problem if the ad networks and ad providers wouldn't try to one-up their ads every iteration on how annoying they can get.
Flashing colours, page stretchers, pop-ups, UNWANTED audio playback, misleading links, fake download buttons, sometimes even NSFW material.
Not even speaking of the potential malware vector, as long as anything gets loaded in or interjected which isn't static content like an image or text it, it bears a security risk and it allows for tracking by browser across websites.
Doesn't help it that some pages are so littered with ads it slows the whole browser tab down and don't get me even started on the latest craze of crypto-mining in the browser.
I have the sole authority of what gets executed on my computer, I can customize my browser any way I like,
including blocking ads, I am under no obligation to run and display the site that is downloaded as is, I block certain domains and scripts any day I like. And I don't want to waste any bytes on my connection and any CPU cycles on scripts I didn't ask for and I don't tolerate.
I unblock certain sites and certain ads occasionally if a website asks nicely and the ads are not total garbage,
but this whitelist is not even 10 entries long so you can guess what is the regular case.
I am aware of the fact that ads finance many websites and content but at this point I am out of fucks to give for the problems mentioned above, maybe it can be reformed into something better, maybe we need another financing model for the internet, maybe nothing happens, whatever it is, my ad-blocker stays.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134150]That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.[/QUOTE]
They made their bed, they can sleep in it. Far as I'm concerned, ads can fuck right off.
[QUOTE=geel9;53134150]That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.[/QUOTE]
Ads could burn in hell for all I care.
Will this also be added to chromium? It'd be nice to have adblock in steam's browser
Between using an ad-blocker, not having cable, and living in a progressive city that bans 99% of ads, I see probably less than a half dozen ads on an average day (not counting flyers and stuff for local places) and let me tell you: it is amazing. I've almost totally forgotten what it's like to be harassed by ads all the time. When I travel or watch TV somewhere and have to watch ads it feels truly bizarre. We're so used to ads that we aren't even aware of how weird and obstructive and mind-numbing they are. They're a blight on our culture and usually an aesthetic crime on top of that
But I'm also aware that I'm not a site admin or business owner so it doesn't affect me, and I'm aware that it's difficult to get around not having ad revenue. While I feel remorse for anyone who needs ads to sustain their business, the economic model needs to change and it won't happen if we "let good ads through"
[QUOTE=geel9;53134150]That's cool but you need to admit the consequences of that growing mindset.[/QUOTE]
The consequence is that content services need to adapt and find a way to earn revenue without being fucking obnoxious.
10 minute long ads are absurd.
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