Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: "I am sorry for the lives I have taken, for the suffering that I have caused"
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[url]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/24/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston-marathon-bombing-survivors-speak[/url]
[quote]Convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has given his first public statement since carrying out the April 2013 terrorist attack.
“I would like to now apologize to the victims, to the survivors,” he told the Boston court where he is awaiting his formal sentence of death for the bombing.
“I am sorry for the lives I have taken, for the suffering that I have caused you, for the damage I have done, irreparable damage.”
He added: “In case there is any doubt, I am guilty of this attack, along with my brother,” Tsarnaev said, standing at the defense table.
To the victims, he said: “I pray for your relief, for your healing.”
Tsarnaev’s statement came after an emotional morning of testimony during which survivors of the bombing spoke out about the effect his actions had on them.[/quote]
Yeh now you are saying that when your in gitmo you fucker.
Still deserves his punishment, but it's good to know he regrets what he did.
Too little, Too late
Honestly, he's pretty much still a kid and he was pretty clearly influenced by his other brother's crap to do it. Authority/Idol figures can make people do crazy shit. For this reason alone I believe he is sincere, does that mean he doesn't deserve to be punished? No. But he doesn't deserve to be tortured or killed or anything, that's fucking barbaric and would serve no purpose other than the show we're no better than his actions.
He's not, I'd bank much more money on a lawyer or some sort of illegal advice to coach him to say this, or just him grasping at the faint hope of reducing his punishment.
And I sincerely doubt that the survivors even want his prayers or sympathy.
110% scum.
I suppose for some people thinking that a killer [I]could[/I] actually regret his past actions and that it isn't a trick or a lie isn't in the cards.
[QUOTE=The golden;48042781]I would rather him be executed than sent to a torture facility. Nobody deserves that. Nobody.[/QUOTE]
What about people in MMOs who auction resources in 200 stacks of 1?
[QUOTE=evilweazel;48042827]He's not, I'd bank much more money on a lawyer or some sort of illegal advice to coach him to say this, or just him grasping at the faint hope of reducing his punishment.
And I sincerely doubt that the survivors even want his prayers or sympathy.
110% scum.[/QUOTE]
Why would his lawyer coach him to do this? He's walking the green mile; nothing he says would change that. The only reason he'd say this is out of pure sincerity and regret
I wonder if James Holmes or Dylann Roof will receive the death penalty.
[QUOTE=The Haski;48043096]I wonder if James Holmes or Dylann Roof will receive the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
I hope not. Life in prison is enough. If you don't subscribe to it from a humanist perspective, then at least consider that in death they become a martyr, in life they're just another criminal to be forgotten.
[QUOTE=draugur;48043140]I hope not. Life in prison is enough. If you don't subscribe to it from a humanist perspective, then at least consider that in death they become a martyr, in life they're just another criminal to be forgotten.[/QUOTE]
Life in prison is worse than death.
A bullet to the brain as forgiveness
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48043162]Life in prison is worse than death.[/QUOTE]
Who has the right to decide who lives or dies without being a hypocrite in their judgement? No one. The second you decide that someone has to die for their crimes and advocate for it, you're on the same level as they are.
The only difference is that you have the support of a larger mob behind you than they did.
Too late. Don't care. You're fucked.
Don't worry, it's k.
But seriously fuck him
[QUOTE=draugur;48043325]Who has the right to decide who lives or dies without being a hypocrite in their judgement? No one. The second you decide that someone has to die for their crimes and advocate for it, you're on the same level as they are.
The only difference is that you have the support of a larger mob behind you than they did.[/QUOTE]
I'm against death penalty, but I don't really agree with you either. I can't say that executing someone makes you as bad as they are, no matter the horrors they commited. I just dislike death penalty because I believe in prison as a correctional facility, not as a punishment.
Well, nice that he realizes he did something terrible instead of seeing himself as a hero of his cause or whatever. Doesn't change the way he should be treated, but it's always nice to see that militant radicals can see the error of their ways, even if it is all too late.
[QUOTE=jonu67;48042794]Still deserves his punishment, but it's good to know he regrets what he did.[/QUOTE]
bUt does he regret what he did or regeret getting caught
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48043462]bUt does he regret what he did or regeret getting caught[/QUOTE]
Prolly regret what he did. The typical way of terrorists-and-mass-murderers-after-capture is to go full 'I did the right thing and I'm a beacon to follow' routine. Rare for someone to apologize.
[QUOTE=jiggu;48043455]I'm against death penalty, but I don't really agree with you either. I can't say that executing someone makes you as bad as they are, no matter the horrors they commited. I just dislike death penalty because I believe in prison as a correctional facility, not as a punishment.[/QUOTE]
Many murderers justify their actions as "doing what's right for X" be it society, themselves, their family, humanity, etc. The Death penalty is just someone with the backing of a larger mob over-riding that justification with their own version of "doing what's right for X", usually in this case being society. Someone who is in prison is removed from society, they are no longer a threat to it.
Look, I'm not preaching to any side but I'm going to lay down a simple objective argument against the death penalty, that does not pander to any form of emotion or morality and is simple objective logic of running a safe & fair system.
There has been and will continue to be, false positives where innocent people are killed, this is not safe nor fair and if it is, we must admit there is a justifiable number of innocent people killed because this system is not 100% fool proof.
This is not the thread for this kind of talk either way.
His gesture is some-what touching even if perhaps to an extent pitiful, at least he is showing some form of genuine remorse but nothing will make what he did okay.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48043462]bUt does he regret what he did or regeret getting caught[/QUOTE]
It's been two years. He undoubtedly knows that he's either going to spend his life in prison or he'll be executed. Nobody's coming for him, his actions didn't cause extremists to band together, nothing - all he's heard for the last 2 years is testimonies from the people whose family members he killed and from people calling him a monster and saying he should die.
I don't believe Dzhokar Tsarnaev was crazy or psychopathic or lacking in empathy - I believe he was convinced to take part in a cult-like extremist belief by his brother and that now that he's been hit with the reality of his actions he'll actually realize how badly he fucked up. Extremist beliefs rely TONS on peer support. Cults can only exist when everyone around you shares the same belief. Once you're ripped out of that bubble, that worldview becomes incredibly fragile. I have no doubt that he's being genuine - he doesn't share the profile of a psychopath or someone lacking empathy in any way.
I'm sorry we wasted all this time and money on you. Should've been buried long ago.
[QUOTE=Minimal;48042693]Yeh now you are saying that when your in gitmo you fucker.[/QUOTE]
The detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, is for foreign combatants. Tsarnaev is neither foreign (he is a U.S. citizen) nor a combatant. The same legal protections that prevent the government from arbitrarily sending you or I there also apply to him.
[QUOTE=The golden;48042781]I would rather him be executed than sent to a torture facility. Nobody deserves that. Nobody.[/QUOTE]
He's not there.
[QUOTE=The golden;48043919]It's very easy to tell who bought into the US Media and Govt. demonization of him and who hasn't.[/QUOTE]
He demonized himself when he set off a homemade bomb that killed six and injured ~280.
[QUOTE=draugur;48042822]Honestly, he's pretty much still a kid and he was pretty clearly influenced by his other brother's crap to do it. Authority/Idol figures can make people do crazy shit. For this reason alone I believe he is sincere, does that mean he doesn't deserve to be punished? No. But he doesn't deserve to be tortured or killed or anything, that's fucking barbaric and would serve no purpose other than the show we're no better than his actions.[/QUOTE]
If you get easily influenced by others and are not able to filter information thrown at you, you deserve everything you get.
Lock him up, throw away the key.
Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;48044471]If you get easily influenced by others and are not able to filter information thrown at you, you deserve everything you get.[/QUOTE]
The amount of irony in this statement alone is fucking insane.
You've been easily influenced by others to believe what you do about this kid and you have failed to filter information to reach the actual truth of the situation. What does that mean you deserve?
Maybe it's just a thing some people don't see but trust me, there's a HUGE difference in the mannerism and make of actual crazy terrorists and people who are strung along for the ride.
I mean if you look at it in a way, I was indoctrinated in the exact same fashion to commit "murder" on behalf of the U.S. military as Taliban fighters in Afghanistan are, if you want to throw all the context in the world out the window we are the same people. We are/were "defending our homeland from foreign aggressors". The world isn't black and white, right and wrong. The world works on the principle of "the weaker man is always wrong." and in some cases that's not always a bad thing honestly, society at large is the "stronger man." and a criminal would be the "weaker man." It is our duty as the stronger man to take the high ground; it is our duty to show compassion and empathy to the weak. Without those we are no better than terrorists ourselves, admit this hard truth or not, it is just that.
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