NSA Leaker comes forward: 29 year old computer technician
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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/09/politics/nsa-leak-identity/index.html?hpt=hp_t2]source[/url]
[QUOTE](CNN) -- A 29-year-old computer technician for a U.S. defense contractor provided the British newspaper the Guardian with details of a top-secret American program that sifts through reams of data from telecommunications companies, the newspaper revealed Sunday.
[B]"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them," the source, Edward Snowden, told the Guardian[/B].[/QUOTE]
The FBI/CIA/Military/SS are gonna be all up on his ass
What a noble guy.
Hopefully he doesn't get the Bradley Manning treatment
I predict he's secretly going to be made immortal just to throw people expecting him to be killed off the trail.
[QUOTE=Lick;40962936]Hopefully he doesn't get the Bradley Manning treatment[/QUOTE]
You know he will, poor guy will probably rot in Gitmo unless we back him up.
Lol he's so fucked.
guy has balls for exposing the government like that, I'll give him that.
[QUOTE=Lick;40962936]Hopefully he doesn't get the Bradley Manning treatment[/QUOTE]
Arrested, prosecuted, and tried? What would you prefer?
Motherfucker has balls of steel.
I just hope we don't see his face in a news article about how he 'mysteriously' disappeared or got poisoned. That would piss me off.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40962950]He's fled to Hong Kong[/QUOTE]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties]Except we have an extradition treaty with Hong Kong. All aboard the Gitmo train![/url]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40962970]Arrested, prosecuted, and tried? What would you prefer?[/QUOTE]
The law isn't always right.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40962970]Arrested, prosecuted, and tried? What would you prefer?[/QUOTE]
Humane treatment.
welcome to guantanamo, enjoy your stay!
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40963004]He believes they will resist U.S. extradition efforts against him[/QUOTE]
Why would they? Wouldn't that just piss the U.S. off even more?
If anything they'll use him as a diplomatic tool or something.
Then again I know nothing about Asian-American politics.
i want some other country (whereever he ends up) to go ahead and tell the us that they can have their prisoner back as soon as they're totally excluded from prism
other country's would follow suit demanding the same treatment for whatever leverage or threat they have, and the government would have to acknowledge the corporate level of this at some point or risk never getting to crucify the 'traitor'
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40963004]He believes they will resist U.S. extradition efforts against him
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Bradley Manning did something much more serious and was never sent to Gitmo[/QUOTE]
Nothing more serious than exposing corruption. I can't think of a crime with a worse punishment.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40962970]Arrested, prosecuted, and tried? What would you prefer?[/QUOTE]
thrown in military prison and tortured / isolated for years before getting a trial i would assume is what hes referring to
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;40963001]welcome to guantanamo, enjoy your stay![/QUOTE]
He wouldn't end up in Gitmo.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40963028]"Despite his determination to be publicly unveiled, he repeatedly insisted that he wants to avoid the media spotlight. 'I don’t want public attention because I don’t want the story to be about me. I want it to be about what the US government is doing.' "
pretty swell guy[/QUOTE]
Honestly seems a bit contradictory then, if he doesn't want public attention then why make such an effort to get it?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40963072]Honestly seems a bit contradictory then, if he doesn't want public attention then why make such an effort to get it?[/QUOTE]
So we know everything is not pulled completely from someone's ass?
Well, he's a goner.
Thank god he revealed this information though. Now us Americans can be either apathetic or remain completely ignorant of PRISM because most of the people I know only read news articles when it concerns shootings, children or celebrities.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40963170]Bradley Manning wasn't tortured & isolated for years last I checked[/QUOTE]
when he went to court it was revealed he was tortured via sleep deprivation, isolation, humiliation techniques, sensory deprivation and stress positions
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even the UN condoned bradley mannings torture and called it a violation of human rights
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40963215]when he went to court it was revealed he was tortured via sleep deprivation, isolation, humiliation techniques, sensory deprivation and stress positions
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even the UN condoned bradley mannings torture and called it a violation of human rights[/QUOTE]
they condoned it but thought it violated human rights?
It just goes to show that our government is fucked up when a guy flees to [I]China[/I] to escape corruption and ever-probing governmental forces.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;40963215]when he went to court it was revealed he was tortured via sleep deprivation, isolation, humiliation techniques, sensory deprivation and stress positions
[editline]9th June 2013[/editline]
even the UN condoned bradley mannings torture and called it a violation of human rights[/QUOTE]
Can't forget this one "The cell contained a toilet that was in the line of vision of the observation booth, and he was not allowed toilet paper. When he needed it, he told the court, he would stand to attention by the front bars of the cell and shout out to the observation guards: "Lance Corporal Detainee Manning requests toilet paper!" [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/30/bradley-manning-keeping-sane-madness[/url]
eh here's one more quote for the lazy "That night guards arrived at his cell and ordered him to strip naked. He was left without any clothes overnight, and the following morning made to stand outside his cell and stand to attention at the brig count, still nude, as officers inspected him.
The humiliating ritual continued for several days, and right until the day he was transferred from Quantico on 20 April 2011 he had his underwear removed every night. The brig authorities later stated that in their view the exceptional depriving of an inmate's underpants was a necessary precaution, in the light of his ominous comments about using his underwear and flip-flops to harm himself."
[QUOTE=geel9;40963267]they condoned it but thought it violated human rights?[/QUOTE]
condemned*
How is this any different than what Nixon did, exactly?
[QUOTE=Medevilae;40963253]Hate to cite wikipedia but:
I hadn't heard anything other than sensationalist media "confirming" anything otherwise[/QUOTE]
[quote] Juan E. Mendez, a United Nations Special Rapporteur on torture published a report saying the detention conditions had been "cruel, inhuman and degrading."[/quote]
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/10/bradley-manning-legal-scholars-letter]he was kept in solitary for 23 hours a day and stripped naked at night[/url] and his defense lawyer put forward that he was subject to sleep deprivation, stress positions and sensory deprivation
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/11/bradley-manning-wikileaks[/url]
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/11/stripped-naked-bradley-manning-prison[/url]
the judge even prevented the UN torture rapporteur from testifying in manning's case
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/bradley-manning-wikileaks_n_1687335.html[/url]
to pretend manning was treated humanely and properly is naive and dismissive
how did he manage to haul his massive iridium balls to Hong Kong
What this guy has done is such an selfless act it's unbelievable
he is literally putting his life in line for democracy, it's some shit straight out of fiction.
let's not forget Bradley Manning while we're at it. he's suffering for the same reasons right this moment
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