[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29685830"]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29685830[/URL]
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Mevlut Cavusoglu added that talks on the subject were continuing, but gave no further details.
Tens of thousands of people from Kobane have fled months of fighting between besieging IS forces and Syrian Kurd defenders.
Until now Turkey has refused to allow Kurdish fighters to cross into Syria.[/QUOTE]
I wonder long term whats going to happen to Kurdish-Turkish relations, what with the weapons, training, and combat experience the Kurds are going to get out of this conflict against ISIS. Whether or not it could lead to a larger push for Kurdish autonomy.
[QUOTE=Spherical Orb;46284086]I wonder long term whats going to happen to Kurdish-Turkish relations, what with the weapons, training, and combat experience the Kurds are going to get out of this conflict against ISIS. Whether or not it could lead to a larger push for Kurdish autonomy.[/QUOTE]
Scary.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46285219]If PKK gets some over-donfidence out of this and escalates shit, then a lot of blood will be spilled.
And the side who will lose will be the Kurdish people. They will lose their democratic leverage if PKK boils it down to military actions, and as they are more deadly with new arms and experience, a lot of innocent Turkish conscripts will die too. Along with Kurdish partisans.
Also, at the latest Kobane riots, you would remember that near 30 people died. Do you know how many died by police hands? I dont know any exact number but 1 or 2, 3 at most. I know one for sure, got hit by a tear gas canister in the head. There are some wrongfully executed by PKK for being jihadists too, just judging from beard. You would remember the barber news story too, about this.
The rest of the death toll? Fights between Hezbollah and PKK. So Hezbollah has resurrected, and blood will be spilled frequently between PKK and them.
[B]Small crash course about Hezbollah:[/B]A group or extra zealot people who hate PKK throughout the core of their body. Compromised from mostly Sunni Kurds, sometimes Sunni Turks too[SP] as I have always said before, the clash in Turkey doesn't have that much ethnic origin, people dont frequently judge by nationality here.[/SP] They are known for violently torturing and murdering everyone communist and/or seperatist: often intellectuals, politicians and journalists, but also sometimes PKK/KCK officials, officers and commanders, if they get their hands on them. Turkey ended this group with a big crackdown in 2000. Since then, Hizbullah has been Hüdapar (Free cause party), and resorted to non-violent stuff like politics. In 2011, the high-counting officials got out with a new law on parole, but they have escaped.
Some say Hezbollah is a sub-division of JITEM (Gendarmerie's war on terror sub division, notorious for executions and torture) and was created by army before it went wild. I dont know, I only included the facts I know up there.[/QUOTE]
So your point is that the Kurds are the bad guys.
As much as Turkey doesn't like the Kurds I'm sure they'd rather have kurds on the border than IS.
Perhaps this is the beginning of a new "Kurd Kobane"
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46289589]Perhaps this is the beginning of a new "Kurd Kobane"[/QUOTE]
Turkey let them in the fight, just like she let me in her heart shaped box.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46285219]If PKK gets some over-donfidence out of this and escalates shit, then a lot of blood will be spilled.
And the side who will lose will be the Kurdish people. They will lose their democratic leverage if PKK boils it down to military actions, and as they are more deadly with new arms and experience, a lot of innocent Turkish conscripts will die too. Along with Kurdish partisans.
Also, at the latest Kobane riots, you would remember that near 30 people died. Do you know how many died by police hands? I dont know any exact number but 1 or 2, 3 at most. I know one for sure, got hit by a tear gas canister in the head. There are some wrongfully executed by PKK for being jihadists too, just judging from beard. You would remember the barber news story too, about this.
The rest of the death toll? Fights between Hezbollah and PKK. So Hezbollah has resurrected, and blood will be spilled frequently between PKK and them.
[B]Small crash course about Hezbollah:[/B]A group or extra zealot people who hate PKK throughout the core of their body. Compromised from mostly Sunni Kurds, sometimes Sunni Turks too[SP] as I have always said before, the clash in Turkey doesn't have that much ethnic origin, people dont frequently judge by nationality here.[/SP] They are known for violently torturing and murdering everyone communist and/or seperatist: often intellectuals, politicians and journalists, but also sometimes PKK/KCK officials, officers and commanders, if they get their hands on them. Turkey ended this group with a big crackdown in 2000. Since then, Hizbullah has been Hüdapar (Free cause party), and resorted to non-violent stuff like politics. In 2011, the high-counting officials got out with a new law on parole, but they have escaped.
Some say Hezbollah is a sub-division of JITEM (Gendarmerie's war on terror sub division, notorious for executions and torture) and was created by army before it went wild. I dont know, I only included the facts I know up there.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that be kinda backwards considering Hezbollah is fighting with the Syrian regime and Erdoğan has made it pretty clear he wants Assad gone?
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