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[quote]The house in Austria where Adolf Hitler was born is set to be demolished to stop it becoming a focal point for neo-Nazis.
The future of the former guesthouse has been widely debated, with opinion torn between razing it or changing its use.
The argument was further complicated after its owner refused to sell.
But Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka said a committee of experts had decided that the house should be demolished, reported Austrian newspaper Die Presse.
A new building put in its place will be used for administrative or for charitable purposes, the paper added (in German).[/quote]
But that wouldn't really change much? They will just go to the many other famous point of the Nazi's to do it there instead? I mean, are you going to demolish all things that hitler was often at?
its a piece of bloody history
Hitler's birthplace did nothing wrong.
Don't want it to be used as a shrine for Neo Nazis? Turn it into a museum for tolerance, love, and peace.
man i disagree with this completely, bulldozing history is just stupid, regardless of whatever connotations it might hold. at the end of the day, whatever the build in its place will still be associated with hitler.
[QUOTE]The house in Austria where Adolf Hitler was born is set to be demolished to stop it becoming a focal point for neo-Nazis.[/QUOTE]
This is a [I]*slightly*[/I] better excuse than the usual "OMG WE'RE SO SORRY, THIS IS OUR FAULT FOREVER" thing that Germany does in regards to the Nazis
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;51216784]I mean, are you going to demolish all things that hitler was often at?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, whatever's demolishable is gonna be demolished.
Eh, if it's a rally point for neo-nazis it's an actual issue for the local community, but I'd much rather even slightly historically significant buildings didn't get demolished.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;51216797]This is a [I]*slightly*[/I] better excuse than the usual "OMG WE'RE SO SORRY, THIS IS OUR FAULT FOREVER" thing that Germany does in regards to the Nazis[/QUOTE]
Yeah, bad Germany, showing remorse for WW2 and teaching about the actual collective responsibility of previous generations.
It's just a building so why not replace it with something new. They could make a miniature of this house and put it in a museum if people actually care about it
Won't help, Neo-Nazis have GPS now and they'll meet at that location still. Building or no.
It's just a pointless demolishing of a historical building.
The thing is that there's literally nothing that would stop neo nazis from tagging nazi symbols on the new building.
You can raze a building from the face of the earth, but you will never be able to erase its history.
[QUOTE=phaedon;51216800]
Yeah, bad Germany, showing remorse for WW2 and teaching about the actual collective responsibility of previous generations.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they should be like Turkey and Japan instead!
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51216812]Won't help, Neo-Nazis have GPS now and they'll meet at that location still. Building or no.[/QUOTE]
The article says that the new building will be administrative.
How about they build new police headquarters there? That'd be hilariously effective. Can't imagine neo-nazis hanging around too much around that place.
So are they going to use eminent domain then if he won't sell it?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51216787]its a piece of bloody history[/QUOTE]
It's really not an important place though. They shouldn't destroy everything related to the nazis, but honestly I don't really see a reason to defend this building in the name of history. It's utterly inconsequential to what is important about him.
Goddamn liberals
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51216795]Don't want it to be used as a shrine for Neo Nazis? Turn it into a museum for tolerance, love, and peace.[/QUOTE]
That could be happening.
[quote]A new building put in its place will be used for administrative or for charitable purposes, the paper added (in German).[/quote]
Maybe the building grew too old and needed to be demolished anyway.
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-17562615]They did the same thing to his mother and father's grave in Leonding back in 2012[/url]. They removed the headstone, and their plot will be used for a new burial-- although they haven't even been exhumed yet as far as anybody knows.
Germany and Austria go overboard when it comes to dealing with stuff involving the Nazis, and this way they're going about handling Hitler's birthplace is yet another example.
And what would it add/fix?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51216787]its a piece of bloody history[/QUOTE]
Everything is.
I mean sure neo-nazi's are terrible but wouldn't you rather know where they are rather than have them spread out everywhere? Keep the decease contaminated and let the house stay.
maybe it's just because of where im from in the US but I love historic buildings, always hate seeing them torn down.
could care less about the hitler thing, but it always pains me to see historic buildings go
[QUOTE=Tools;51216994]I mean sure neo-nazi's are terrible but wouldn't you rather know where they are rather than have them spread out everywhere? Keep the decease contaminated and let the house stay.[/QUOTE]
If they actually aggregate effectively they can grow, whereas a ton of separate or loosely connected groups will be unable to do much on their own and eventually stagnate.
In any case, no one wants their community to become a meeting spot for nazis.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;51216925]Everything is.[/QUOTE]
Some things are more historically significant than others are though.
[editline]17th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=phaedon;51217008]If they actually aggregate effectively they can grow, whereas a ton of separate or loosely connected groups will be unable to do much on their own and eventually stagnate.
In any case, no one wants their community to become a meeting spot for nazis.[/QUOTE]
Well that's not going to happen. There are plenty of other buildings in existence today that had ties to Hitler in his lifetime where they can still meet-- places he lived, delivered speeches or held rallies/meetings at, vacationed at, etc. Unless they intend on destroying all these things as well, there will be other places for neo-Nazis to designate as new shrines.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51216795]Don't want it to be used as a shrine for Neo Nazis? Turn it into a museum for tolerance, love, and peace.[/QUOTE]
Shit I'd be cool with the building being turned into a museum. Hitler was an awful person, but I don't agree with destroying historical sites just because they hold negative connotations.
As someone else said, turn it into a museum for love and tolerance. I think that'd be a much better solution.
Fuck the Nazis and the Neo Nazis though. They ruined the Manji and now they're ruining Pepe. :(
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51217052]As someone else said, turn it into a museum for love and tolerance. I think that'd be a much better solution.
Fuck the Nazis and the Neo Nazis though. They ruined the Manji and now they're ruining Pepe. :([/QUOTE]
House a charity that helps refugees there
I'm going to play devil's advocate for a moment.
Isn't demolishing a building because it could be associated with some intolerant people make us intolerant as well?
This decision is "monumentally" stupid.
it belongs in a museum
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51216787]its a piece of bloody history[/QUOTE]
it belongs in a museum
*ahem*
i mean braunau-am-inn
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