France ‘Suppressed Reports of Gruesome Torture’ at Bataclan Massacre - Polidicks

[URL]http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-suppressed-news-of-gruesome-torture-at-bataclan-massacre/[/URL] [URL]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/15/french-terror-cover-up-bataclan-attack-included-gr/[/URL] [url]http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bataclan-terrorist-attack-included-gruesome-torture-of-victims/news-story/c0cc809c303487541b985ef0e57992dd[/url] [quote][URL="http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-enq/r3922-t2.asp"]A French government committee has heard testimony[/URL], suppressed by the French government at the time and not published online until this week, that the killers in the Bataclan appear to have tortured their victims on the second floor of the club. The chief police witness in Parliament testified that on the night of the attacks, an investigating officer, tears streaming down his face, rushed out of the Bataclan and vomited in front of him just after seeing the disfigured bodies. The 14-hour testimony about the November attacks took place March 21st. According to this testimony, Wahhabist killers reportedly gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were reportedly stabbed in the genitals – and the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said. But prosecutors at the hearing claimed these reports of torture were “a rumor” on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed that maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries. [/quote] [quote][B]Q.[/B] For the information of the Commission of Inquiry….can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan: beheadings, evisceration, eyes gouged out …? [B]Investigator: [/B]After the assault, we were with colleagues at the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot when I saw weeping from one of our colleagues who came outside to vomit. He told us what he had seen. [/quote] [quote] [B]A.[/B] Bodies have not been presented to families because there were beheaded people there, the murdered people, people who have been disemboweled . There are women who had their genitals stabbed. [B]Q. [/B]All this would have been videotaped for Daesh ! [B]A. [/B]I believe so. Survivors have said so. [/quote] [quote]Elsewhere, the investigator says, women were sexually tortured, stabbed in the genitals, and their eyes were plucked out. People were decapitated. The clerk of the inquiry (or “rapporteur”) pressed the chief of committee for clarity on whether victims were decapitated or mutilated. The committee chief replied that the authorities had given out conflicting information that said victims were merely shot or blown up. He then heatadded this damning statement about one victim’s father discovering the gruesome truth in the morgue: [/quote] [quote]Mr. President Georges Fenech Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which has appeared nowhere [in the media]. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary: “On the causes of the death of my son A., at the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and what a shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, had put them in his mouth, and he was disemboweled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. He said: This is “the only presentable part, your son’s left profile.” I found that he had no right eye. I made the remark; I was informed that they had punctured his eye and sliced down the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see. ” This particular witness could corroborate the statements that we heard from one of the BAC officials, that one of his investigators vomited immediately on leaving the Bataclan after finding a decapitation and evisceration. Are you aware of such facts? [/quote] The publicly released documents [URL="http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-enq/r3922-t2.asp"]http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-enq/r3922-t2.asp [/URL] I am honestly tearing up and feeling like I am about to have a heart attack.

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Damn, I saw these reports on 4chan a few days ago but didn't think they were real because of how fucked up the descriptions were. Wow.

[url]http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/[/url] Apparently its not true

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;50719528][url]http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/[/url] Apparently its not true[/QUOTE] [quote]A prosecutor appearing before the inquiry replied lamely that no sharp knife had been found at the scene that could have been used for torture. Perhaps shrapnel had caused the mutilation, he said. The head of the committee asked if an explosion would have placed testicles in a victim’s mouth:[/quote] [quote] Prosecutor: I specify, for the sake of clarity: some of the bodies found at the Bataclan were extremely mutilated by the explosions and weapons, to the point that it was sometimes difficult to reconstruct the dismembered bodies. In other words, injuries described this father may also have been caused by automatic weapons, by explosions or projections of nails and bolts that have resulted. Q. Would those have put a man’s balls in in his own mouth? Prosecutor: I do not have that information.[/quote]

Is there any sort of verification that victims where actually found in that state other than an eyewitness?

I don't think I could take looking at the full articles right now. Sick, savage people, man. [B]Edit[/B] I hope it is just a rumor.

I don't see the terrorists having the time to perform torture in a situation like that. Both of those sources are crap as well.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;50719549]Is there any sort of verification that victims where actually found in that state other than an eyewitness?[/QUOTE] I'm afraid I cannot find that information. I've tried going through chunks of the document but it's about 600,000 words in french. I really hope that this is just rumor. All I can really point to is what was translated. [quote]On the causes of the death of my son A., at the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and what a shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, had put them in his mouth, and he was disemboweled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. He said: This is “the only presentable part, your son’s left profile.” I found that he had no right eye. I made the remark; I was informed that they had punctured his eye and sliced down the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see. ”[/quote]

I REALLY hope this isn't true

Come the fuck on nature. Why did you have to make it possible for us to become so mentally fucked that we think that torturing someone in the most gruesome ways possible for a God which hasn't been proven to exist is good/heroic? Like, seriously, we need to fucking study exactly what the hell has to be done to manipulate our minds to think this type of shit if we want to prevent these attacks in our society for good.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;50719528][url]http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/[/url] Apparently its not true[/QUOTE] [quote][B]Alain Marsaud[/B]. Acts of torture happened on the [B]second floor[/B]? [B]MTP [/B]I think, [B]as I entered at the ground floor[/B] I saw there no such thing had occurred, only people hit by bullets.[/quote] The Snopes debunking seems to be misreading the statements.. Torture took place on the 2nd floor, and their debunking quote is specifically saying nothing happened on the first floor. The only other debunking quote they have is this: [quote][B]Mr. President[/B]. Following the November attacks, he was referred to the commission of barbaric acts. [B]François Molins[/B]. It's a rumor. Forensic doctors were categorical: there was no act of barbarism, no use, including knives. According to a witness, the testicles of a victim were cut off, but no findings have corroborated it.[/quote] Which seems to be saying there was no use of knives and that they couldn't prove (?) that somebody's testicles were cut off, but in the same report it is said that witnesses reported beheadings and various acts of barbarism, as well as testimony from the father of a victim who was apparently informed by the forensic institute that his son was mutilated. Seems like a very lukewarm debunking, I wouldn't trust Snopes on this one.

Guess we would have found out sooner or later. So sorry for those victims. [QUOTE=DeEz;50719488]Animals[/QUOTE] Indeed. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups[/url] Can you spot the pattern?

Please let these rumors be false. I can't imagine how horrible it is to be tortured to death, and I wouldn't wish it upon any innocent soul.

All of this appears to be coming from one person who says he was told something by another person. There doesn't seem to be any corroborating testimony, let alone physical evidence. Huge part of me just wants this to be false though. That's nightmare material.

[URL="http://www.caintv.com/bataclan-terrorists-tortured-c"]Another source.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50720273][URL="http://www.caintv.com/bataclan-terrorists-tortured-c"]Another source.[/URL][/QUOTE] [quote][I]As you read the following, remember: we're saddled with a President who finds it "difficult" to discern motives. We're surrounded by leftists who never fail to remind us that "all religions have radicals," and we're lorded over by a global cadre of cowards (at both ends of the political spectrum) who refuse to acknowledge the reality we face. They're the enablers, or worse, of what you're about to read. This misery - [B]this abject horror[/B] - is the end result of their fecklessness, their ineptitude, and their coddling.[/I][/quote] Ok this immediately diminishes the article's credibility imo. [I]Edited:[/I] The source just requotes the original testimony and adds some commentary. The lack of critical thinking is obvious- It basically boils down to "Obama is lying" and "lefties suck" I find it hard to believe that all this happened and was recorded [I]on video[/I] and it still hasn't been officially confirmed/denied. Unless the recording devices were also destroyed in the suicide blasts? I just hope to God none of this is true. I can barely watch Game of Thrones because of all the eye-gouging and castrating; the thought of these things happening in real life to real people is unbearable.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;50720218]Please let these rumors be false. I can't imagine how horrible it is to be tortured to death, and I wouldn't wish it upon any innocent soul.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't even wish it upon a guilty soul.

I find it very hard to believe the perpetrators having time to carry out extensive torture on multiple people while also searching for new targets and having a firefight with the police.

[QUOTE=Bonde;50721472]I find it very hard to believe the perpetrators having time to carry out extensive torture on multiple people while also searching for new targets and having a firefight with the police.[/QUOTE] What's described isn't really torture though, it's mutilation, and wouldn't take all that long, especially because I doubt they were being surgical about it. If it happened mind.

[QUOTE=Bonde;50721472]I find it very hard to believe the perpetrators having time to carry out extensive torture on multiple people while also searching for new targets and having a firefight with the police.[/QUOTE] Why? Torture, to me at least, doesn't mean it has to go on for a long period of time. Watching the guy next to you get his guts ripped out of him? That'd be torture to me, knowing that it's gonna be me next. Also, it doesn't take alot of manpower to hold off a group from getting into your position. If you are smart, and your men know what they are doing, 4 guys could easily hold off 20 guys. There's plenty of examples throughout history to prove that smaller groups were able to take on, or hold off larger groups.

[url="http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bataclan-terrorist-attack-included-gruesome-torture-of-victims/news-story/c0cc809c303487541b985ef0e57992dd"]Debunked, most likely just bullet and shrapnel wounds.[/url]