Taiwan TransAsia plane crash-lands in Taipei river [Caught on camera - HOLY SHIT] - Polidicks

[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10292469_687964957991882_2863928715081979433_n.jpg?oh=4ba0dc8b5ad3f3a3bb062fe1bf913337&oe=5551C4FE&__gda__=1432756550_c5426d553702516df57c0f3133a6a6b9[/IMG] [QUOTE]A plane belonging to Taiwanese carrier TransAsia Airways has crash-landed in a river in Taipei, local reports say. More than 50 people were onboard at the time, and a number of people were reportedly injured. Taiwan's Central News Agency (CNA) showed a picture of a plane almost submerged in the Keelung river. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31125052"]Source[/URL]

That's absolutely terrifying; thoughts for those wounded/killed and their families. I also must say, this morbidly reminds me of that scene in the movie Knowing. It's hard to imagine something like that happening in the real world.

that looks like a dash cam. is there video?

Holy fuck. Hopefully this is like Flight 1549, and nobody's dead, but with a bank angle like that, it obviously wasn't a fully-controlled emergency landing. That's gotta be like 80 degrees, no way that's in-spec for a plane like that.

[QUOTE=FreakySoup;47071915]that looks like a dash cam. is there video?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;-MMzCwzXMQY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MMzCwzXMQY[/video] Can't find the one where the pictures in the OP are from though.

Looks like the plane was an ATR-72 - Taiwan TransAsia's crashed one of them before (Flight 222, July of last year), so they operate them, and it looks like a match to me. Edit: And yes, the high bank angle limit on that plane is 27 degrees, which this plane was obviously exceeding. Unless the pilot managed a recovery VERY quickly, this was not a pretty landing. Edit2: There's no source on this, but [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways#Accidents_and_incidents]Wikipedia[/url] claims "On Febuary 4, 2015, TransAsia B22816, had 58 people aboard when it crash landed lat 10.56am local time into the Keelung River near Taipei, reported TVBS. Of the 58, there were 51 adults, two children and five crew members. Ten people have been rescued and dozens more are trapped, and rescuers are trying to reach them, reported AFP citing televsion reports. 2 have been confirmed dead as of yet." Take that with several grains of salt. Edit3: Correction, TransAsia's lost two of these planes before. One was a cargo flight, crashed due to excessive ice on the wings. The other was Flight 222, crashed on approach for reasons not yet known (the investigation is ongoing, engine failure is suspected but not confimed). Several other crashes of this plane have occurred, not unusual for a plane like this, produced in large number and sold to smaller airlines. Edit4: Looks like the flaps were down, which means the pilot was trying to gain lift and reduce speed. The fuselage seems mostly intact, so it looks like it worked as well as can be expected.

Yeah it's a plane and it crashed, we get it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why Reply/Shit post" - BANNED USER))[/highlight]

It's rare you actually see the crash happen, especially from that close on a dashcam. [QUOTE=Lf751;47071997]Yeah it's a plane and it crashed, we get it.[/QUOTE] It's unfortunate his knowledge of aircraft is contributing more to this thread than your petty edgyness don'tcha think buddy. [editline]3rd February 2015[/editline] [url]http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11396650&ref=NZH_FBpage[/url] Some more developing news, along with a live feed of the rescue efforts.

[QUOTE=Lf751;47071997]Yeah it's a plane and it crashed, we get it.[/QUOTE] You could say this about literally any news article

This is why I got a dashcam. So I can record unbelievable shit like this.

[QUOTE=Lf751;47071997]Yeah it's a plane and it crashed, we get it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, possibly hundreds of people could have been hurt/killed by this, jeez guys get over it

Yeah the taxi driver and the passenger in the taxi are ok, the plane's wing just happened to hit it but they're ok. [img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20150204/640_52754c2c68e3a329524577e50ccfc7f0.jpg[/img] [img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20150204/640_6f2c0a273cfcd01fd58f1f345d0c7919.jpg[/img] 1 people dead and five with no sign of life, not again..... They said that it's engine failure, most passengers (58 people including the flying crew) on the plane are Chinese, including two children. The pilot yelled mayday three times on the black box and then it crashed into the river. Oh god there's news of it all over the television. One of the person that got saved, I think it's one of the flying crew looked so scary. His whole face is just in white (literally) and he can't walk properly. [img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20150204/640_d67e92e2016aa8c4a3854d5d1edee302.jpg[/img] [img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20150204/640_990b168ac58605567e8bc4fd682baf7f.jpg[/img] [video=youtube;-MMzCwzXMQY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MMzCwzXMQY[/video] [img]http://img1.cna.com.tw/www/WebPhotos/Chart/20150204/8343315.jpg[/img] [Edit]: 31 Chinese were on board, 27 saved, others are still in the plane including the fly crew

They're going to have to act fast or the people trapped in there will drown.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;47072143]They're going to have to act fast or the people trapped in there will drown.[/QUOTE] It looks like the fuselage might be resting against the river bottom - it doesn't seem to be flowing with the current. Hopefully that will help save more of them.

Found it. [url]http://instagram.com/p/yqnvQ6OrkH/[/url]

Video of the closeup dashcam: [url]http://instagram.com/p/yqnvQ6OrkH/[/url]

It looks like it just fell out of the sky. Was it below stalling speed or something? Engine failure? Regardless, that must have been scary as hell for everyone involved. Just speculation but could it have been an engine failure on take off after the aircraft was beyond the point of no return? I know those types of planes don't have great glide ratios, but it literally looks as if it was a brick being thrown across the highway, not graceful at all.

Recent accidents with planes really worries me a lot, my dad is one of the pilots in China Airlines, it didn't happen to him of course but it really makes me feels bad for the pilots. Because even though it's not his fault, he might get blamed (and that's only if he survived)

[t]http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/atr72500_kp.jpg[/t] this is the type of plane in size [t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80771000/jpg/_80771112_80771061.jpg[/t] this is all thats left above water

[QUOTE=Reviized;47072176]It looks like it just fell out of the sky. Was it below stalling speed or something? Engine failure? Regardless, that must have been scary as hell for everyone involved. Just speculation but could it have been an engine failure on take off after the aircraft was beyond the point of no return? I know those types of planes don't have great glide ratios, but it literally looks as if it was a brick being thrown across the highway, not graceful at all.[/QUOTE] From the video, it looks like one of the props might not have been powered - possibly engine failure. If it was just taking off, it would be heavily-loaded with fuel, further hampering its performance. The main problem, though, looks like the bank angle. It was tilted ridiculously off-axis. That means the "lift" was pushing it sideways, not upward. In cases like that, even when done deliberately, you're basically guaranteed to lose altitude. My (completely speculative) guess is that there was an engine failure that also had some sort of effect on the controls (there's numerous things that could cause this), causing it to bank uncontrollably. By the time they had regained some control, they were too low and were sinking too fast, and all they could do was pick the softest spot to land and try to slow down as much as possible.

[QUOTE=Reviized;47072176]It looks like it just fell out of the sky. Was it below stalling speed or something? Engine failure? Regardless, that must have been scary as hell for everyone involved. Just speculation but could it have been an engine failure on take off after the aircraft was beyond the point of no return? I know those types of planes don't have great glide ratios, but it literally looks as if it was a brick being thrown across the highway, not graceful at all.[/QUOTE] looking at the video, it just banks sharply and slams into the river, really scary for whoever was in the bus that almost got clipped [editline]4th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=gman003-main;47072201] My (completely speculative) guess is that there was an engine failure that also had some sort of effect on the controls (there's numerous things that could cause this), causing it to bank uncontrollably. By the time they had regained some control, they were too low and were sinking too fast, and all they could do was pick the softest spot to land and try to slow down as much as possible.[/QUOTE] very hard to speculate about engine failure though, both propellers were turning, from the video at least but cameras aren't really good at catching propellers anyways, they'll release details in a couple weeks anyways im wondering just because the very rapid shift to the side if cargo wasn't secured properly or loaded right and shifted dramatically

[QUOTE=Sableye;47072196][t]http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/atr72500_kp.jpg[/t] this is the type of plane in size [t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80771000/jpg/_80771112_80771061.jpg[/t] this is all thats left above water[/QUOTE] Last year the exact same type of plane crashed too, only few survived. The plane this time has been maintained often and is in service for not even over a year.

To me it looks like it's loaded to heavily at the rear (for the lift), if anything the banking is a last attempt by the pilot to land in the river than on land.

[QUOTE=Sableye;47072204]very hard to speculate about engine failure though, both propellers were turning, from the video at least but cameras aren't really good at catching propellers anyways, they'll release details in a couple weeks anyways im wondering just because the very rapid shift to the side if cargo wasn't secured properly or loaded right and shifted dramatically[/QUOTE] If the engine failed, the propeller would be spun by the airflow. It looked to me like the left propeller was spinning significantly slower than the right, but it's a poor video, so I'm not sure.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;47072307]If the engine failed, the propeller would be spun by the airflow. It looked to me like the left propeller was spinning significantly slower than the right, but it's a poor video, so I'm not sure.[/QUOTE] The plane is coming down much before is turned so heavily to the left. If one engine fails the lift won't be great enough to keep the plane in the air but it won't necessarily cause the plane to turn in such a way. I'm pretty sure the sharp turn towards the end is a desperate attempt to land on water rather than land.. From seconds 8 to 10 in the video the plane is clearly stable in turn but descending rapidly. Like you say the video isn't exactly high in quality but engine failure is not the cause of the plane turning as it does towards the last seconds. edit.. Although on second review it does look as though the pilot counters a left turn.. I don't know and i have no idea what they're saying on the live feed so..

[video=youtube;0fWhYJNZt08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fWhYJNZt08[/video]

[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;47072365][video=youtube;0fWhYJNZt08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fWhYJNZt08[/video][/QUOTE] holy shit the wing actually hit the top of that yellow car infront, that's insane

It could be that the pilots failed to maintain directional control and feather the dead engine, thus causing the imbalanced stall and crash. The nose is extremely high and at that attitude a spin is likely (if the plane were high enough) But again due to framerates it might be something entirely different. Its just speculation at this point from my own instructing experience. [editline]4th February 2015[/editline] Yeah looking at the video again (the farther one) they were unable to maintain altitude and the plane stalled as they attempted to pitch higher and higher causing the airspeed to drop. You can see how quickly the plane snaps to the left indicating that's where the stall occurred and the plane began to enter a spin as it hit the bridge. [editline]4th February 2015[/editline] And just to add on a little more it seems they were trying to clear the buildings, which they did, however there was no more airspeed to fly with afterwards.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;47072307]If the engine failed, the propeller would be spun by the airflow. It looked to me like the left propeller was spinning significantly slower than the right, but it's a poor video, so I'm not sure.[/QUOTE] They could have feathered the props but I don't see it [editline]4th February 2015[/editline] Also curious about the fuel load since I don't see fire, maybe it wasn't on takeoff?

It's almost impossible to tell how fast props are going, and it is in video like this. Remember, if the RPM and framerate is synced up they can look perfectly still. The plane obviously stalled, one engine failure on take off wouldn't cause it, but having buildings in the way preventing you from decreasing your pitch to avoid a stall will. Usually you throttle up, lift off, then you maintain the speed you want in the climb with your pitch rather than throttle. If you can't nose down because of obstacles right after take off, and lose an engine, that can be gg. But it would have to be the absolute worst timing possible. If it happened before V1, they could abort and it's no problem, if it happened after they cleared the height of buildings around them it would be no problem